tomprobert Posted November 24, 2014 Share Posted November 24, 2014 Does anyone know anything about this? http://www.revell.de/en/products/model-building/aircraft/civilian-aircrafts/id/04997.html Is it a new mould? Or a re-release of the Airfix/Heller kit? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arachnid Posted November 24, 2014 Share Posted November 24, 2014 re-release, a pig of a kit,if I recall Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Col. Posted November 24, 2014 Share Posted November 24, 2014 Skill level - "Very challenging" according to Revell so sounds about right for the Airfix one Arachnid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham Boak Posted November 24, 2014 Share Posted November 24, 2014 I don't think Revell have ever re-released an Airfix-tooled kit, so presumably this Concorde counts as Heller and was retained by them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrahamS Posted November 24, 2014 Share Posted November 24, 2014 Why, oh why do they bother? Graham Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
modelldoc Posted November 24, 2014 Share Posted November 24, 2014 It's the Heller kit (like the same that Airfix sold) modelldoc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoff_B Posted November 24, 2014 Share Posted November 24, 2014 I don't think Revell have ever re-released an Airfix-tooled kit, so presumably this Concorde counts as Heller and was retained by them? Yeap it was tooled by Heller from 3 different sources if i recall, which is why its a crap fit. i don't think Airfix miss it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terrain Safe Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 Horrible kit. I fought and fought and fought it and eventually got it in the bin. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garryrussell Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 I think that skill level is a misprint...should be 15 (based on a skill level of 1-5) 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albeback52 Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 I think the original kit seemed to me to be a bit of a rush job. Very bad design & engineering. Was it really necessary for example to split the fuselage into 4 sections (including the droop nose?) - none of which were the same diameter at the joins? Well, I can accept that the sheer length might have necessitated a 2 way split but 4???. I've persevered with & built two. I think it was worth it because, it looks every inch a Concorde when built despite the appalling fit problems. I think Airfix missed an opportunity here. Imagine a new tool 1/72 Concorde made to their current standards! Cannot see it happening though. Meantime, I have a couple of "what if" projects in mind so, I'm personally glad to see this kit again under Revell guise. Yes, it IS a challenging build but I never felt compelled to give up & bin it. Biggest problem I have is what will assuredly be a "wow" factor! The most beautiful aircraft ever built portrayed on a spectacular box top screaming "BUY ME, BUILD ME!". A lot of people could potentially be put off modelling when they find out the work required. Allan 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomprobert Posted November 25, 2014 Author Share Posted November 25, 2014 Agree with all of the above, Allan. It is buildable (I too have built one and have another in the stash ready to go) but the way it was moulded did mean a number of unnecessary problems that could have been avoided with a little more forethought. I will probably pass on this reissue as it does appear from what others have said to be the Heller kit; I was hoping for a new state-of-th-art modern tooling. Never mind, that wait goes on... Tom 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmatthewbacon Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 They should put one of their "Classic" health warnings on it -- experienced modellers only... If you are up for the work, the fixes are well detailed on line, and it's easier than scratch building, and no doubt a lot cheaper than the ? AModel? ?1/48? one (I'm sure I remember a rumour of the ultimate bonkers Concorde kit from points east, but the details escape me) I've only built the one, but deciding to fix the nose in one position and building two fuselage halves out of the segments first helped a lot. The engines can be made to fit, and if you build it gear up, you can avoid a lot of hassle shortening and moving the nose landing gear... It just seemed to me that if you did that, you were paying an awful lot for a kit that ended up no more complex or detailed than the rather nice Revell 1/200 snap kit! Bestest, M. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radleigh Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 HpH are bringing the 48th kit out, full resin kit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albeback52 Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 Agree with all of the above, Allan. It is buildable (I too have built one and have another in the stash ready to go) but the way it was moulded did mean a number of unnecessary problems that could have been avoided with a little more forethought. I will probably pass on this reissue as it does appear from what others have said to be the Heller kit; I was hoping for a new state-of-th-art modern tooling. Never mind, that wait goes on... Tom Hi Tom I think the Heller & Airfix kit were actually one & the same? I certainly would NOT recommend to an inexperienced modeller but, it does make a stunning replica when complete. Although the fit issues are serious, I have built a number of limited run (including A model) kits that also had serious fit issues but, you kind of expect that in a limited run kit, NOT a kit from a mainstream manufacturer. I was also hoping for a new tooling but, any this 1/72 Concorde is better than no 1/72 Concorde !!. Be interesting to see the RRP. The Airfix/Heller kits have been fetching silly prices on the second hand market Allan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pin Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 It is buildable One may build it straight from the box - no problem. The problem is that the result does not look like Concorde to my eyes I haven't seen properly built Concorde in 1:72 yet with at least major shape problems fixed. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Bradley Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 HpH are bringing the 48th kit out, full resin kit. A test shot was on shot at Telford - it's a big bugger!!!! Looked very nice, though.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard M Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 Heller re-box, like the 1/48 Jag. Both kits have been issued by Airfix but they have no input in this deal, it's Heller/Revell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiger331 Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 One may build it straight from the box - no problem. The problem is that the result does not look like Concorde to my eyes I haven't seen properly built Concorde in 1:72 yet with at least major shape problems fixed. Coincidentally, one of my local club colleagues brought a completed version of the Airfix kit to our latest meet, last evening and it was a truly superb build. Its taken quite a bit of effort and a heap of patience, as we have all witnessed during the past year during regular 'progress checks' but it is buildable and the reward has been a museum standard model. As we all commented last evening, its a pity that more have not risen to the challenge…hopefully the Revell re-release will persuade one or two to have a go (providing they have the space to display the finished article !). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pin Posted November 26, 2014 Share Posted November 26, 2014 museum standard model Has he fixed shape issues? The main issue is not the visor that is way too long, not the cockpit windows that are of wrong shape, not the cabin windows that are way too large, not the displaced front and main wheel wells, not the incorrect shapes of wing fairings but the underbelly that is far too high far too wide that is incurable without serious surgery that eventually exhausted my enthusiasm towards building accurate 1:72 replica Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Fleming Posted November 26, 2014 Share Posted November 26, 2014 The 1/72 Concorde was entirely a Heller project, Airfix had no input beyond re-boxing it and selling it 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Belbin Posted November 26, 2014 Share Posted November 26, 2014 HpH are bringing the 48th kit out, full resin kit. A test shot was on shot at Telford - it's a big bugger!!!! Looked very nice, though.... It wasn't just a test shot at Telford - they were actually selling the kit. I know because I enquired - I said I'd get one next year only to be told that they were very limited and that most had gone! A bargain at £350 each. Nick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WV908 Posted December 20, 2014 Share Posted December 20, 2014 Chanced upon the Revell boxing for the fist time today, complete surprise to me. As already mentioned, it's the old Heller kit, which made me think of mine. She's been in storage for a while now, so I've quickly taped her together for a few photos. This is a rebuild, but from what I can remember when I originally built it was that A. The nose is awful (subsequently now rebuilt) and B. The wings do not match the fuselage. The fuselage fits well on my example, and it is build-able, just remember to keep a lot of filler in stock. I've still not chipped out all of the expired filler from the first build.. The ultimate goal... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davecov Posted December 20, 2014 Share Posted December 20, 2014 (edited) Yeap it was tooled by Heller from 3 different sources if i recall, which is why its a crap fit. i don't think Airfix miss it I won what Airfix described as a prototype test-shot of the 1/72 Concorde in an Airfix competition in November 2004. It arrived as seen - moulded in differently-coloured plastic as a result of being produced by different companies. The different colours, helping to work out who made what! Here are pictures of it, apologies for a couple of blurred pictures. The other aircraft shown for comparison is a 1/72 Harrier which gives a good idea of just how big this thing is: Not the best built of examples with gluey fingerprints, short-shot parts and bad joins. At least the nose still drooped though! Unsurprisingly, it put me off buying a production kit! When I moved house I had to sell it along with a lot of my stash. Brian Canell was the "lucky" recipient! Dave Edited December 20, 2014 by davecov Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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