tomprobert Posted December 1, 2014 Author Share Posted December 1, 2014 Tom, is it possible to scribe panel lines into this filler? Is this Halfords stuff acrylic? The only brand I could find in my country is Prisma colour and it is nitro-acrylic. I'm not sure what effect the 'nitro' part would have on styrene and filler. Its a thick acrylic paint, if you apply it too thickly in one go, it will run and fill all the surface detail. Thin coats and then re scribe as deep as you would normally go. It's main benefit is filling minor imperfections without the need to keep re treating areas normal primer reveals. As Bentwaters has explained, scribing is no problem on this stuff. It dries nice and hard, but is soft enough for a scriber to do its magic. As for the 'nitro' ingredients - maybe check on a scrap piece first before committing it to your latest creation?! The undercarriage sponsons went on last night - a bit of filling and fettling required but all in all a pretty successful operation. Tom 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kev67 Posted December 1, 2014 Share Posted December 1, 2014 I may have to invest in some of this filler primer, looks good, after seeing it on Iains Connie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomprobert Posted December 1, 2014 Author Share Posted December 1, 2014 I may have to invest in some of this filler primer, looks good, after seeing it on Iains Connie That's where I first read about it - I wish I'd discovered it sooner as it would have saved me a lot of work in the past Tom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomprobert Posted December 3, 2014 Author Share Posted December 3, 2014 Evening all I've been working on getting the undercarriage sponsons attached to the fuselage over the last few sessions. After working out exactly where they're positioned (using Revell's 1/144th scale kit) work began by adding some basic detail to the fuselage sides which form part of the wheels bays: The sponsons themselves had some structural detail added to box in the bays, add the small intakes on the front edges made from plastic card and the APU exhaust added to the right side. The small doors on the outer sides were opened up, too: Once this was complete, they were given a final trimming and sanding and added to the fuselage sides. A quick lick of filler and they were on: Next up is the fin... Until next time, Tom 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radleigh Posted December 3, 2014 Share Posted December 3, 2014 Brilliant stuff Tom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ali62 Posted December 3, 2014 Share Posted December 3, 2014 Tom, as usual great work. One question what glue did you use to add the sponsons onto the painted fuselage, usually I find that liquid glue crazes the paint. I am sure you also need a good bond secure the sponsons into place. Also how long did you let the paint cure before adding the sponsons. cheers Ali Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomprobert Posted December 3, 2014 Author Share Posted December 3, 2014 Tom, as usual great work. One question what glue did you use to add the sponsons onto the painted fuselage, usually I find that liquid glue crazes the paint. I am sure you also need a good bond secure the sponsons into place. Also how long did you let the paint cure before adding the sponsons. cheers Ali Hi Ali, I used a mixture of Revell Contacta and good old fashioned superglue. The Contacta goes on first, and then I also add the superglue after. This means the latter dries more slowly and final adjustments can be made. The superglue then dies and it's rock solid. The paint has been on since Saturday, and the sponsons were actually added on Tuesday. I had no adverse reaction with the paint at all. Tom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A6-EHJ Posted December 3, 2014 Share Posted December 3, 2014 I am loving this matey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ali62 Posted December 4, 2014 Share Posted December 4, 2014 Hi Ali, I used a mixture of Revell Contacta and good old fashioned superglue. The Contacta goes on first, and then I also add the superglue after. This means the latter dries more slowly and final adjustments can be made. The superglue then dies and it's rock solid. The paint has been on since Saturday, and the sponsons were actually added on Tuesday. I had no adverse reaction with the paint at all. Tom Hi Tom Thanks for that, I will be trying that technique out for sure sounds rather clever. To be clear and sure do the two glues mix / go on top of each other, or do you first use contacta and then add super glue around edges? Sorry to be so pedantic but want to get the process right. Ali Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomprobert Posted December 4, 2014 Author Share Posted December 4, 2014 Hi Tom Thanks for that, I will be trying that technique out for sure sounds rather clever. To be clear and sure do the two glues mix / go on top of each other, or do you first use contacta and then add super glue around edges? Sorry to be so pedantic but want to get the process right. Ali Hi Ali, The contacta goes down first, on the edges that are to be mated. I then apply the superglue to the same location after, and the two naturally mix together. When the part is applied to the model, the spuerglue dires a little more slowly due to the contacta, but the result is a very strong join - with the bonus of a little 'wiggle time' before the superglue hardens. Tom 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albeback52 Posted December 4, 2014 Share Posted December 4, 2014 You do realise Tom that after you having done all this work, AirRevItalfix will be announcing a 2015 release of a brand new tool,accurate, highly detailed IM kit of a C-17...........................................................!!!! Allan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darby Posted December 4, 2014 Share Posted December 4, 2014 Is this beginning to hurt yet as the dog looks a tad concerned. If you pull this one off appoint yourself Lord High Comissioner of Hetton-Le-Hole and Grand Admiral of Seaham 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kev67 Posted December 4, 2014 Share Posted December 4, 2014 Is this beginning to hurt yet as the dog looks a tad concerned. If you pull this one off appoint yourself Lord High Comissioner of Hetton-Le-Hole and Grand Admiral of Seaham This will be easy peasy for Tom, considering the other vacforms he's done Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomprobert Posted December 4, 2014 Author Share Posted December 4, 2014 You do realise Tom that after you having done all this work, AirRevItalfix will be announcing a 2015 release of a brand new tool,accurate, highly detailed IM kit of a C-17...........................................................!!!! Allan Story of my life... are there any other obscure projects out there you chaps want me to tackle as sure as it'll get dark tonight an injection moulded example will soon follow! You may be pleased to know I'm lining up another 1/48th Shackleton next... This will be easy peasy for Tom, considering the other vacforms he's done It's proving relativly straight forward so far Kev, but you wait until you see the engines. They are going to cause a serious headache! But that's all part of the 'fun'... Tom 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xffw45343tg Posted December 4, 2014 Share Posted December 4, 2014 Tom, I got the impression from the Revell 1:144 kit that the difference in sponson length is more pronounced than is apparent in the CM. I can't quite make out from your pics whether or not you had to do any adjustment after all? Kirk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandy Posted December 4, 2014 Share Posted December 4, 2014 Just caught up with this one. Very impressive all around, Tom. You're a braver man than I to add filler then SAND something so perilously thin! Ian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUSTON Posted December 4, 2014 Share Posted December 4, 2014 The 'blueprints' that CM provides with their kits are ridiculous. I could probably draw a better looking Globemaster with my eyes closed... You are doing a great job with this challenging kit Tom (and you are very fast too ). I'll follow this one with interest. I've been eyeing with a Sanger Candid, but I'm not sure I have the skill to finish such a big vacuform kit... Good luck! OOH I'd like too see your 'eye -closed 'drawing.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomprobert Posted December 4, 2014 Author Share Posted December 4, 2014 Tom, I got the impression from the Revell 1:144 kit that the difference in sponson length is more pronounced than is apparent in the CM. I can't quite make out from your pics whether or not you had to do any adjustment after all? Kirk Hi Kirk, The Revell sponson certianly looks longer than the Combat example. In truth I probably could have spent some time lengthening it - it probably needs half an inch or so. However, life is too short and when viewed in plan form the right is longer than the left, so that's good enough for me. Once the APU exhaust and natural metal area around the APU is on it'll be passable I think. Just caught up with this one. Very impressive all around, Tom. You're a braver man than I to add filler then SAND something so perilously thin! Ian Sanding it is cetainly a challenge - that's why I apply plenty of filler as it takes the brunt of the sanding process. The filler-primer is certainly helping too - there's 3 or so good thick coats on the fuselage which has given it an extra half mm or so thickness! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUSTON Posted December 4, 2014 Share Posted December 4, 2014 Tom, EXCELLENT workmanship.. I am impressed as you progress gradually. Liking it.. And I betcha Alfred is wondering why We're all gawping at him... He's sorta cool !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomprobert Posted December 5, 2014 Author Share Posted December 5, 2014 I've been working on the fin this week. First task was to get it constructed - internal spars from wooden dowel and sprue gave it some much needed strength. I also removed the rudder and boxed in the hinge line as you often see C-17s parked with the rudder kinked over: It then came to fitting it to the fuselage - those of a slightly nervous or squeamish disposition look away now: However, some P38 car body filler and a good sand with some wet and dry, and all was well in the world again: I also filled the panel detail as it was fairly crude and I want to add my own at a later date. Now the fin is on the model is really starting to take on the look of McDonnell-Douglas' finest: There's still a fair bit of surface detail to be added to the fin, but this will be done once it's had a generous spraying of filler-primer. At the moment it's freezing outside and not ideal for spraying - the joys of winter! Tom 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radleigh Posted December 5, 2014 Share Posted December 5, 2014 Looks great in the last photo Tom...! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perdu Posted December 5, 2014 Share Posted December 5, 2014 gets better and better lovely work, dont blame you about the spraying Not near warm enough Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nik W Posted December 5, 2014 Share Posted December 5, 2014 Stunning work Tom, absolutely stunning. Nik Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomprobert Posted December 5, 2014 Author Share Posted December 5, 2014 Looks great in the last photo Tom...! gets better and better Stunning work Tom, absolutely stunning. Nik Thanks for the kind words guys... it's starting to come together nicely now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Breaker Posted December 5, 2014 Share Posted December 5, 2014 Tom, if you ever do a Phil Flory-esk style videos with subscribers, I'd quite happily watch you build your monster builds, I get the feeling I'd learn a lot! Good job so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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