Algie75 Posted November 14, 2014 Share Posted November 14, 2014 With Airfix announcing a new He111 I thought I'd get my Revell/Hasegawa H6 built. I want to make an H2 as shown on an Xtradecal sheet. What are the key differences between the two marks, are there any major external differences which would make this difficult? Thanks in advance Leighton Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham Boak Posted November 14, 2014 Share Posted November 14, 2014 Start with thinner propeller blades and no forward gun position in the gondola. The H-2 would not have the side gun positions as built, although single guns may have been added as a result of experience. There may be more subtle changes too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdrianMF Posted November 14, 2014 Share Posted November 14, 2014 I had a look at this for my Airfix H-1 backdate, and I found the Kagero book very useful. So: What Graham said, plus the spinners are a bit shorter front to back, the dorsal cover does not have any "lobster back" cover at the rear, and there may be differences in rear-firing gun installations in the tail. I think the gondola varied an awful lot (it may or may not have the three side windows) so I would look for pictures. However, once you get into the detail, you start to wonder how accurate the picture descriptions are... Look forward to seeing an in progress thread! Regards, Adrian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steven Eisenman Posted November 14, 2014 Share Posted November 14, 2014 (edited) The shape of the cowling appears closer to the P than the H-6, it is more rounded. The H-6 cowl appears a bit "chunkier", after all it had a bigger engine. As a result the spinner was larger and less pointed. The intake on the right side of the cowling was quite short with the area in front of the intake a trough. The intake on top of the cowling is much smaller and lower. It is part of ther rear of the cowling and does not stand proud as a scoop. The exhaust was a straight pipe, and the shape of the cowling and exhauts are where it met the leading edge of the wing was quite different ferom the H-6 No rear-firing MG. The H-2 had five lower fusewlage windows above the ventral position and three in the ventral position. Some pctures show the windows in the ventral position paintted or covered. Basically, need to rebuild the entire engine cowling. Edited November 14, 2014 by Steven Eisenman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham Boak Posted November 14, 2014 Share Posted November 14, 2014 (edited) Steven, I'm surprised that the Jumo 211F was physically wider/taller than the Jumo 211D (excluding accessories), as this implies a major redesign that would have led too a new designation (akin to the DB601-605, perhaps?) However MMP's Stuka book does describe the Jumo 211F as being 404mm longer, which may at least partially come from a changed supercharger design - this is the only explanation I've ever seen for the Ju 87D version's greater length. Another point worth noting is that the H-4 and later variants had external store carriers, so don't fit these. Most references quote the nose gun position in the gondola being introduced on the H-3, and later modified on the H-6, but it is absent on at least some examples of the H-3 (eg the Romanian ones). Certainly beware of the photo captions, but sometimes the texts cannot be relied upon either. Edited November 14, 2014 by Graham Boak Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steven Eisenman Posted November 14, 2014 Share Posted November 14, 2014 (edited) I understand that the F was a redesign, with changed supercharger design. I believe the H-3 could be fitted with ETC in the belly. I actually have a picture of a P model with what appears to be an external ETC, so retro to an H-2 would be likely. As for the forward ventral gun, this is subject to confusion. I've seen a reference say introduced on the H-6! But it may have been a retrofit to earlier model. I have a picture of what appears to be a H-2 or -3 with a foward ventral gun. Edited November 14, 2014 by Steven Eisenman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tempestfan Posted November 14, 2014 Share Posted November 14, 2014 The A-Stand of the H-6 (at least most in this fashion are described as H-6s) was strenghtened to take the MG FF, it appears to be slightly shorter and less domed as the original Ikaria swivelling A-Stand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steven Eisenman Posted November 14, 2014 Share Posted November 14, 2014 The A-Stand of the H-6 (at least most in this fashion are described as H-6s) was strenghtened to take the MG FF, it appears to be slightly shorter and less domed as the original Ikaria swivelling A-Stand. It was a totally different design for the 20mm. Shape and structure. It was shallower, for one thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hardtarget Posted November 14, 2014 Share Posted November 14, 2014 (edited) Everything is within the revel boxing to make a H2 I believe. Im sure radleigh did an early version using the H-6 boxing. Have a look in RFI. EDIT it was for the H6 no H2 Edited November 14, 2014 by Hardtarget Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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