nimrod54 Posted September 13, 2016 Share Posted September 13, 2016 I'll need to read the GB rules, but does '25% started' include opening the box, holding two fuselage halves together and making engine noises? Close but so long as you didn't do any take-offs, landings, or banks or turns you should be under 25%. Got to disagree there Rob, making noises would suggest that the engines are in fact fitted which would put it on Finals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romeo Alpha Yankee Posted September 14, 2016 Share Posted September 14, 2016 Ah, but are you making engine noises for 2 or more engines? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alancmlaird Posted September 16, 2016 Share Posted September 16, 2016 Definitely two engines. Though i can only manage one at time obviously. And an APU. I seem to have chosen the wrong time for this - the new 'Invision Power Suite' doesn't seem to work with just about any PC or Mac I have.....I'm now on an Intel Mac on Google Chrome which seems to work if that helps anyone else! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
POTKC Posted September 17, 2016 Share Posted September 17, 2016 It's probably the Chrome that's making it work. I'm on a MacBook Air with Chrome, haven't tried on anything else though, but it works perfectly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrlx Posted September 17, 2016 Share Posted September 17, 2016 Hi all, I'm planning to build Revell's 1/144 Concorde. As I'm a military aircraft guy, I'd appreciate some guidance on the proper way of painting airliners. I guess pre-shading, panel line washes and panel post-shading are all "no-nos" here and the objective is to have a very clean aircraft? White primer is the way to go? What about weathering of jet exhausts? The kit has no clear parts for the passenger windows. Should they be painted black? What's the accepted approach in this case? Thanks in advance for any advice. Cheers Jaime Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romeo Alpha Yankee Posted September 17, 2016 Share Posted September 17, 2016 Hi Jaime, Welcome to the GB. I think airliners that are always in pristine condition is a bit of the fairy tail amongst modellers who don't build them much. There are no hard and fast (or accepted) rules and conventions when building them. Most will keep them clean because it is easier that way. Others do weather them (see link in post below) to great effect. So dirtying them up is OK, there was a lovely B747 freighter built on this forum not long ago that was weathered nicely. Thread link here by Steve(techniquest). In the case of the Concorde you would have to see how dirty they were allowed to get in service by googling reference images. You could pre-shade and wash if you want, though in 1/144 panel lines on most kits are over done for the scale, they do show up on some aircraft (see above). Exhausts also show signs of use so. For the cabin windows there are a few options: Fill and use decals (supplied in kit I think?) Fill with clear glue (after painting cabin interior a dark colour) Leave them open Hope this is a starting guide for you, no doubt others will chime in with suggestions. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrlx Posted September 18, 2016 Share Posted September 18, 2016 Thanks TrojanThunder, very useful pointer, especially in what regards dismissing the myth of pristine airliners Regarding the passenger windows, they are just recessed on the fuselage, so the cabin is not visible. I was thinking about: 1. simpler approach: just painting them black 2. complicated approach: open them all, paint the cabin black, use acetate glued on the inside of fuselage to simulate the glazing (but then the glazing wouldn't be flush with the fuselage) Looking at the picture of the 747, maybe it is good enough to paint the windows black and apply clear glue as you suggest. Would CA be appropriate? Thanks again. Jaime 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romeo Alpha Yankee Posted September 18, 2016 Share Posted September 18, 2016 Jaime, CA will work, PVA will also work, it cleans up with water so if you apply too much then there is no disaster. Ray 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romeo Alpha Yankee Posted September 18, 2016 Share Posted September 18, 2016 OK, A question for those Boeing builders out there. What colour do you paint your wheel wells and gear legs. Depending on the kit producers you get varying suggestions from white to silver/aluminum to various grey shades.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lex77 Posted September 22, 2016 Share Posted September 22, 2016 CT-43 will probably binned and don't think the other subject will be popular so maybe will be doing a real civil one! Bought the DACO (Skyline) B 737-300 last week and some Southwest decals so maybe a late entry by me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turbofan Posted September 22, 2016 Share Posted September 22, 2016 Hi Ray, I always paint Boeing (and any other manufacturer for that matter) undercarriage Boeing grey using my trusty Mr Color 315. Wheel wells very rarely get much attention as generally you can't see them! If I have to I use Boeing grey again but add a dark wash. Cheers, Ian 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FortyEighter Posted September 22, 2016 Share Posted September 22, 2016 4 hours ago, Lex77 said: 4 hours ago, Lex77 said: CT-43 will probably binned and don't think the other subject will be popular so maybe will be doing a real civil one! Bought the DACO (Skyline) B 737-300 last week and some Southwest decals so maybe a late entry by me. CT-43 will probably binned and don't think the other subject will be popular so maybe will be doing a real civil one! Bought the DACO (Skyline) B 737-300 last week and some Southwest decals so maybe a late entry by me. Which decal set did you get - I can only see Western Pacific on the Daco website?? I recently finished this one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lex77 Posted September 22, 2016 Share Posted September 22, 2016 1 hour ago, FortyEighter said: Which decal set did you get - I can only see Western Pacific on the Daco website?? I got some aftermarket decals. The box was with the Simpson decals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romeo Alpha Yankee Posted September 22, 2016 Share Posted September 22, 2016 10 hours ago, Lex77 said: CT-43 will probably binned and don't think the other subject will be popular so maybe will be doing a real civil one! Bought the DACO (Skyline) B 737-300 last week and some Southwest decals so maybe a late entry by me. What happened to bring this on? What was the other subject? 10 hours ago, Turbofan said: Hi Ray, I always paint Boeing (and any other manufacturer for that matter) undercarriage Boeing grey using my trusty Mr Color 315. Wheel wells very rarely get much attention as generally you can't see them! If I have to I use Boeing grey again but add a dark wash. Cheers, Ian Thanks Ian, thought as much. Make things easier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lex77 Posted September 23, 2016 Share Posted September 23, 2016 6 hours ago, TrojanThunder said: What happened to bring this on? What was the other subject? Some paint trouble! Found out after painting that I closed the wrong door and after that it went from bad to worse. Let's say painting from spraycans requires some practice. The other subject was an Italian Air Force A319. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romeo Alpha Yankee Posted September 23, 2016 Share Posted September 23, 2016 Would love to see the Italian Air Force A319 built! if I can get my 3 finished in time I think a VIP type will be my next build. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lex77 Posted September 23, 2016 Share Posted September 23, 2016 (edited) 1 hour ago, TrojanThunder said: Would love to see the Italian Air Force A319 built First need some window decals for this one as they aren't on the decal sheet! Edited September 23, 2016 by Lex77 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pin Posted September 23, 2016 Share Posted September 23, 2016 On 17/09/2016 at 0:58 PM, jrlx said: Hi all, I guess pre-shading, panel line washes and panel post-shading are all "no-nos" here and the objective is to have a very clean aircraft? White primer is the way to go? Not at all, I use the same techniques for both military and civil aircraft. The other thing is that you must take scale into account, 1:144 is two times smaller than 1:72. Besides, if we are talking about Concordes they usually were kept very clean, you can hardly see any panel lines even in very close shots 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrlx Posted September 23, 2016 Share Posted September 23, 2016 1 minute ago, Pin said: Not at all, I use the same techniques for both military and civil aircraft. The other thing is that you must take scale into account, 1:144 is two times smaller than 1:72. Besides, if we are talking about Concordes they usually were kept very clean, you can hardly see any panel lines even in very close shots Thanks for your comment Pin. Indeed, Concorde was always very clean. I've already looked at many pictures of operational Concordes and I couldn't even see any stains around the jet exhausts. I think I'll go for a completely clean aircraft. Cheers Jaime Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pin Posted September 23, 2016 Share Posted September 23, 2016 I used very light grey wash on the ones I've built 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyp Posted October 18, 2016 Share Posted October 18, 2016 So much great work in this group build. You should all be congratulated. Great to see the small niche subject or airliners/civil really flourishing here. Just wish I had time to jump in and do something myself but time is getting away! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romeo Alpha Yankee Posted November 4, 2016 Share Posted November 4, 2016 So, with just over 2 weeks to go how are we tracking? I need to remove the digit and crawl out of the mojo drought. I will get the B737 finished but I expect the B747-4012F will not get there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob G Posted November 4, 2016 Share Posted November 4, 2016 I haven't even started, despite a very nice Zvezda Tu-154 kit, bought especially for this GB, sitting on the shelf. Oh well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
POTKC Posted November 5, 2016 Share Posted November 5, 2016 My EE 737 has stomped all inspiration into the ground. I'm on a bit of a hiatus right now, can't deal with all the puttying and sanding which is still to come. Perhaps I will leave the 737 for now and turn to a more favorable mode, robably a Zvezda A320 or 767. There is a high chance I won't be able to finish anything for this GB... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nimrod54 Posted November 5, 2016 Share Posted November 5, 2016 Things seem to be going OK and I am hope to complete the Heron towards the end of the week. But with a trip to Telford planned next weekend things could be touch and go for the other. I have started the decals on both, but it's all the final little bits that always seem to eat up the time. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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