JWM Posted October 9, 2014 Share Posted October 9, 2014 (edited) Hi, PZL 43 was a light bomber and recce airplane, it was an export version of PZL 23 Karas. The main differnce between them was in engine - while PZL 23 was driven by single row radial, nine cylinders Bristol Pegasus VII the PZL 43 was driven by double row, 14 cyliders Gnome Rhone GR 14 NO1 engine. To balance airplane fuselage had to be extended by about 30 cm. The rear part of canopy was extended and it came to a rounded at the end. There was no this model on market at all (about 10 years ago), so I made a conversion of PZL 23 model by Heller. The conversion was made of scratch based on a monography of this type which was issued in Poland. Some 40 of PZL 43 were bought by Bulgaria before outbreak of WWII, they were produced but not finished and they were delivered to Bulgaria later by Germans. It was used by Bulgarians during war. Five PZL 43 took part in defence of Poland in 1939. Below, on a foreground is PZL 43, in background Heller PZL 23 Karas (this model I made 40 years ago, when I was in secondary school ) - in these times there was opinion that Polish airplaned were painted dark green, now it is considered, that they were painted khaki or light brown-green) Edited August 23, 2017 by JWM Switch to Flickr 26 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
philtn Posted October 9, 2014 Share Posted October 9, 2014 Rare and exotic But somehow very interesting bird! Good looking in it's own way. Good job for brush painting and raised panel line mold 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JWM Posted October 9, 2014 Author Share Posted October 9, 2014 Rare and exotic Thank you. It might be interesting to some, that now there is a rather nice kit of this bird, not in 1/72 but in 1/48 - by Polish Mirage company. Regards Jerzy-Wojtek Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Learstang Posted October 9, 2014 Share Posted October 9, 2014 Very nice job on an interesting subject! Regards, Jason 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pascal JMW Posted October 9, 2014 Share Posted October 9, 2014 (edited) Very Nice work ! Edited October 9, 2014 by pascal JMW 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mitch K Posted October 9, 2014 Share Posted October 9, 2014 Smashing job. I love these odd, semi-bespoke late 30's designs. This is an interesting subject, and a brilliant build of it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadowmare Posted October 10, 2014 Share Posted October 10, 2014 Nice! If you're making models in bigger scale - 1:48 there's a good kit of this plane from Mirage Hobby. Greetings from Poland! Mike 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JWM Posted October 10, 2014 Author Share Posted October 10, 2014 Many thanks for comments, and from greetings Regards Jerzy-Wojtek Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Monday Posted October 10, 2014 Share Posted October 10, 2014 Well done on a very neatly executed conversion. BM. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesa Jussila Posted October 11, 2014 Share Posted October 11, 2014 Interesting subject. Thanks for showing us. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TonyTiger66 Posted November 11, 2016 Share Posted November 11, 2016 This is another excellent build J-W ! There is a lot to like; the exhaust pipes look very in scale, with shield along the fuselage. The radiators along the fuselage are superb (the photos make us thing these are big, but in 1/72 these are tiny parts). It is interesting that that in this design they have a forward firing gun with corresponding hole in the cowling. Great work on a complex transparency shape. Now if only someone would release one of these (and a new Łos) in 1/72 All best regards TonyT 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A6Intruder Posted November 11, 2016 Share Posted November 11, 2016 Wow. Thats quite special. I like it very much, because i am a Fan of the PZL 23. It`s quite sad that there is no PZL 43 in 1:72 on the Market. I would like to do one as german captured Plane. Best regards Stefan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
invidia Posted November 11, 2016 Share Posted November 11, 2016 Very nice looking model. great to see esoteric subjects. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JWM Posted November 11, 2016 Author Share Posted November 11, 2016 Thank you Tony, Stefan and Invidia for comments! I made this conversion some 10+ years ago. Still I do not know about PZL 43 in 1/72 - I think it is not present. Sooner or later some Polish minor (but great!) company will modell it for sure in 1/72. However there is nice kit in 1/48 of PZL 43 by Mirage ( https://www.scalemates.com/products/img/0/2/8/138028-47-instructions.pdf ). "There is a lot to like; the exhaust pipes look very in scale, with shield along the fuselage. The radiators along the fuselage are superb (the photos make us thing these are big, but in 1/72 these are tiny parts)." Thank you Tony - the radiators I cut out from the side of CD box, which has this kind of corrugated-like surface... PZL 43 has two MGs firing, when P 23 has just single one on right side. The Bristol engine in PZL 23 was larger then Gnome-Rhone one of PZL-43 - therfore in case of Karas MG was firing between cylinders and here they must move it a bit outside and firing outside the cowling. Cheers Jerzy-Wojtek Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mountain goat Posted November 11, 2016 Share Posted November 11, 2016 Now that's an exotic subject! Wow, what a striking model. Jay 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JWM Posted November 11, 2016 Author Share Posted November 11, 2016 Jay, many thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KRK4m Posted November 12, 2016 Share Posted November 12, 2016 On 11.11.2016 at 9:13 AM, JWM said: PZL 43 has two MGs firing, when P 23 has just single one on right side. The Bristol engine in PZL 23 was larger then Gnome-Rhone one of PZL-43 - therfore in case of Karas MG was firing between cylinders and here they must move it a bit outside and firing outside the cowling. The diameter is one thing, but not so important (GR14K measures 51in, while Pegasus shows just 55"). The main reason is that in 14-cylinder double-row Mistral Major there's no possibility to drive the gun between the (overlapping) cylinders - you simply have to move gun outside the engine outline. Cheers Michael 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JWM Posted November 12, 2016 Author Share Posted November 12, 2016 1 hour ago, KRK4m said: The main reason is that in 14-cylinder double-row Mistral Major there's no possibility to drive the gun between the (overlapping) cylinders - you simply have to move gun outside the engine outline. Indeed - you are right Cheers J-W Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildeSau75 Posted November 13, 2016 Share Posted November 13, 2016 Nice build of a plane not often seen - seems to be the week of these kind of planes. Good to see something different. Cheers, Michael 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JWM Posted November 14, 2016 Author Share Posted November 14, 2016 Michael, many thanks Indeed - there is a wave of middle Eurpean WWII mashines... Jerzy-Wojtek Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkoZG Posted November 16, 2016 Share Posted November 16, 2016 Hi again, now that you gave very useful directions about usage of readily available components you used on your Fazan kit, could you please do the same here? I guess you also utilized some parts from other kits in this project, so any guideline is most welcomed. Thanks. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JWM Posted November 17, 2016 Author Share Posted November 17, 2016 Hi Marco - thank you for your interest Here majority of details are really scratch and my memory is so good in this. The extension of fuselage was done just by cutting and adding plates, rounded shielding of rear gunner was also done from flat plate. About canopy and radiatirs I wrote already above. The most important is engine and propeller. They basis likely was taken from some French machine equipped with 14 cylinders Gnome-Rhone but I do not remember what exactly it could be. Likely I took them from box with spare elements event not thinking where they cames from...Of cource there is a lot of reshaping in cowling - the details are unusul. I am sorry that I do not remeber it better. Regarding drawings - I used one from a Polish monography of PZL 43. Send me PM if you need copy of drawings - I have to have it somewhere... Cheers J-W Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JWM Posted August 23, 2017 Author Share Posted August 23, 2017 I came to almost end of rescueing my threads from bucket crisis - currently it is from A to end of P. The PZL 43 is announced now by IBG (1/72) to be available in some future...In 1/48 it is available from couple of years by Mirage. Cheers J-W Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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