garryrussell Posted October 5, 2014 Share Posted October 5, 2014 Don't know where you got the idea I thought there had to be a country similartity that was never in the query and never remotely considered that was something that should happen...only wondered why the went to western style alpahabet when at the time they still used cryllic on the titles and everything else on the aircraft. This gave the impression the 'R' might not be an 'R' although we always knew it was. In other words they were mixing alphabets which in the old CCCP days they didn't. This would not lessen confusion crossing borders but in fact would be more likely to confuse things...except everyone knew what was going on, including me. I just have always wodered why they did that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
upnorth Posted October 5, 2014 Share Posted October 5, 2014 Ah, OK. Sorry if I misread. Silly flu meds must be playing with me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan P Posted October 5, 2014 Share Posted October 5, 2014 I never understood why when Russia went to RA- it is not painted as PA- as in CCCP- really being SSSR- Civil registrations are always in standard ICAO lettering whatever the nationality, so that probably explains it. I'm sure I've seen that even Aeroflot have their name in Cyrillic lettering on one side and Latin on the other? Or maybe it depends on the individual aircraft? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bzn20 Posted October 6, 2014 Share Posted October 6, 2014 Prefixes V and Z Were allocated to British,Dependents, Colonies, countries. So VH,VT, ZS,ZK etc. VP and VR was a catch all prefix. The first 2 suffix letter s denoted the country,VP-KO was Nigeria*(never was part of the empire but joined the "club"),VP-F Falklands. South Africa has ZS,ZT and ZU. New Zealand ZK,ZL,and ZM. The Aeroflot TU104 used on the London route were a small portion of the 150 ish in the '104 fleet somewhere around CCCP-42460,61,62,63 etc.Only once did I see a reg like CCCP-n2462,think the n is an H (only think) For some reason they weren't used on LHR flights. I saw the 1st IL62,taking the 104 slots from then on, into Heathrow CCCP-86666 on a Saturday morning. I only saw one TU114 and 2 Antonov AN10's in xxx years "living" at Heathrow I'v dug this out of my head some may not be spot on but near! *The old BOAC Argonaut Appo trainer G-ALHJ was ex loaned to WAAC as VP-KOT ( This is off the top of my 1966/7 head!) It was still visible underside of the wing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jennings Heilig Posted October 9, 2014 Author Share Posted October 9, 2014 (edited) That's a Cyrillic "L", so the pre-1958 registration style was SSSR-Lxxxx (CCCP-Л1234) The closest Cyrillic equivalent, there being no direct equivalent, to the Roman "H" is "X" (pronounced "ch" as in "loch"). The Cyrillic character "H" is equivalent to the Roman "N". Edited October 9, 2014 by Jennings Heilig 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garryrussell Posted October 9, 2014 Share Posted October 9, 2014 Wasn't that eatra letter a sort of 'B' class registration like the EC-numbers and F-W or CF-TID-X??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radleigh Posted October 9, 2014 Share Posted October 9, 2014 Ooooh! VC-10ski! Must have one of them. Are they still in service? Air Koryo still operate some, But I'm guessing they just stay in North Korea, Gambia Goverment have one in service, Ukraine have a VIP one in service, (might have more?) There is the odd few civillian cargo too (Kapo? I think), based in Russia, Then the Russian AF, State Goverment, Russian Ministry Emergency Situations also have a few too..Couldn't tell you how many.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
general melchett Posted October 9, 2014 Share Posted October 9, 2014 (edited) The Russian Ministry of Emergency Situations one would look nice next to my Eastern Express Be-200..........but then again the Russia State Transportation Company one would look rather nice too.....then there's good old Aeroflop.......choices ! Gambia Goverment have one in service, Saw this at Banjul airport a few years back.... Edited October 9, 2014 by general melchett Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bzn20 Posted October 9, 2014 Share Posted October 9, 2014 (edited) Wasn't that eatra letter a sort of 'B' class registration like the EC-numbers and F-W or CF-TID-X??? I don't know about that but some 104s were in service with the "L" (thanks Jennings) and weren't supposed to fly outside Russia (or maybe to Iron Curtain countries with it.) Not to London I've seen plenty of photos's of these L reg 104's in pax service. Edited October 9, 2014 by bzn20 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jennings Heilig Posted October 12, 2014 Author Share Posted October 12, 2014 I'm not aware of any prohibition on Soviet aircraft with the "L" registrations flying outside the USSR. That was their normal civilian (if one can call anything in the USSR truly "civilian") registration. All Aeroflot aircraft were thus registered for many years. And lots of them traveled widely outside the USSR. I've never heard a definitive reason they changed it in 1958 to the "CCCP-12345" format. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bzn20 Posted October 12, 2014 Share Posted October 12, 2014 I understand that but all I can say is the '104 sevice to London airport,now Heathrow,were CCCP-42464,65,66 etc. No L's into Heathrow.NOEL! Maybe these kites were not Certificated or had up to date kit CAA style. Either way apart from one I saw, they were not kosher? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garryrussell Posted October 13, 2014 Share Posted October 13, 2014 I don't know it this covers every airframe, but the most recent used and current will be here http://rzjets.net/aircraft/?typeid=133 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flankerman Posted October 13, 2014 Share Posted October 13, 2014 FWIW, the restored Tu-104 'Gate Guard' at Moscow's Vnukovo has a reg 'CCCP-L5412'...... I think the markings are spurious though?? Ken 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garryrussell Posted October 13, 2014 Share Posted October 13, 2014 (edited) Nice pics...thanks One little point ...if you convert the cyrillic 'L' then you should do the lot So it's either as shown or SSSR-L5412 Such registrations are about 99.99 percent misquoted ....so you're just running with the pack Edited October 13, 2014 by garryrussell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flankerman Posted October 13, 2014 Share Posted October 13, 2014 I stand corrected - СССР-Л5412 ….. or SSSR-L5142 Have a word with Irkut on this subject - regarding their new MC-21 airliner. In some Russian-language brochures it is the Cyrillic MC-21 - and in Latin brochures, the MS-21. But they then cause confusion by referring to it in their English/Latin brochures as MC-21 !! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irkut_MC-21 http://www.uacrussia.ru/en/models/civil/ms-21/ Ken Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxbat Posted October 13, 2014 Share Posted October 13, 2014 There's a set of Angolan markings out there designed for a resin kit that I have had bookmarked for the last 2 years. Hope there's a set left when this kit finally lands. And that they fit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jennings Heilig Posted October 13, 2014 Author Share Posted October 13, 2014 F-Dcal will have TAAG Angola markings that are designed to fit the kit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxbat Posted October 15, 2014 Share Posted October 15, 2014 That's good to know, thanks Jennings. It was their decals I had bookmarked anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pin Posted October 23, 2014 Share Posted October 23, 2014 (edited) It is out in Russia http://www.zvezda.org.ru/?lng=1&nav=&cat=7&set=7013 Edited October 23, 2014 by Pin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homebee Posted October 24, 2014 Share Posted October 24, 2014 (edited) Russian in-box review http://scalemodels.ru/articles/7821-obzor-novinki-zvezda-1-144-iljushin-il-62m.html V.P. Edited January 20, 2015 by Homebee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
halcyonjet Posted October 24, 2014 Share Posted October 24, 2014 All I can say is WOW!!! I'm sure that I'm going to end up ordering 6 at least, being as the included decal options look so good, plus the others I have in mind. I can't wait.... Dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RocketSurgeon Posted October 24, 2014 Share Posted October 24, 2014 How much? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caution Wake Turbulence Posted October 24, 2014 Share Posted October 24, 2014 Think Hannants have it listed at about £22... Andrew Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RocketSurgeon Posted October 24, 2014 Share Posted October 24, 2014 Oh, I didn't know they were already available. Thank you Andrew! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caution Wake Turbulence Posted October 25, 2014 Share Posted October 25, 2014 Still a future release, but shouldn't be long now.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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