PhantomBigStu Posted February 20, 2016 Posted February 20, 2016 Thats my 2 in the gallery, with my diecast repaint underway (which I won't post in the gallery). May well be back with a third, especially if pots of Mid Stone and Azure Blue work their way into my next order from a certain retailler.....
Troy Smith Posted February 21, 2016 Posted February 21, 2016 Got a couple of queries regarding the MKIID. What is the correct colour for the undercarriage wells? Instructions state cockpit green, but in many pictures I've seen they are silver / aluminium. Ditto the seat. I am assuming this is green though as quite a few photos are of restored aircraft. And did it have a gunsight? One isn't included in the kit so I'll probably have to scratch this anyroad. Oh and don't get me started on RAF Azure Blue, just seen the reference thread for it... interior colours. http://www.britmodeller.com/forums/index.php?/topic/234963507-all-the-hurricane-questions-you-want-to-ask-here/page-3#entry1682406 this is a later Mk II, note Azure blue gear legs, wheel wells?who knows, the bits that can be seen are either AB, or light. Seat could alu, or Grey green Gunsight. in your build thread I posted this link http://www.britmodeller.com/forums/index.php?/topic/234963507-all-the-hurricane-questions-you-want-to-ask-here/page-10#entry1767486 Pics of a IId at the NII VVS. clearly shows standard reflector sight. The only can of worms about Azure Blue is getting a paint to match. Though since I posted in your thread I got some 1/72nd Hurricanes for research. The Airfix IIc kit is, well, crapper than it's even usually made out, wing is a bit thin at tip, too broad at chords, flaps and ailerons are wrong. Nose too thing, prop too small, panel lines are trenches and wrong on fuselage, tail fin and rudder too small, tailplanes too small. Worst of the lot compared, the others were Academy, Heller, Revell, Hasegawa, The old Heller kit is one worth some work, as it's cheap and has great fabric on fuselage. the wing is too broad, nose a little thin over the front bulges, but neither is a difficult fix. All the others have poor fabric, Even the very old Airfix Mk I/IIb kit is better shaped ... If you want to do a decent IId, get a better base kit. 1
Tomoshenko Posted February 21, 2016 Posted February 21, 2016 Thanks Tory. Silk purse and sow's ear springs to mind. I will persevere and make the best of what is a duff hand
dfqweofekwpeweiop4 Posted February 24, 2016 Posted February 24, 2016 If I get a chance, I'd like to join this GB. I've got a small pile of Revell Hurricane IIc's, IIb's, Sea Hurricanes as well as several Hasegawa Hurricanes and Sea Hurricanes in 1/72. thanks Mike
Doug Rogers Posted February 26, 2016 Posted February 26, 2016 Feel free to join in Mike, more the merrier.
Troy Smith Posted February 27, 2016 Posted February 27, 2016 a little off topic...but has anyone else noticed the Hurricanes in the opening credits montage of The Big Bang Theory? see here for full series of images.. http://geekslop.com/2014/big-bang-theory-intro-opening-sequence-frame-by-frame-analysis-reference I thought I saw them,so had to google it up to make sure....what's really worrying is that I then worked out (as they known images) that I'd seen it before...isn't that one of the sequence of 85 squadron planes taken in October 1940.... http://www.iwm.org.uk/history/16-amazing-photos-from-the-battle-of-britain oh dear it is.... I'll get my anorak a bit random I know, but thought might amuse cheers T PS the differing sizes of the underwing roundels are of note, the small ones near the tips are thought to be ones added at unit level when underwing roundels were reintroduced in August 1940, with larger ones done at MU's (Maintenance Units) 5
Paul J Posted February 28, 2016 Posted February 28, 2016 I have just had a look at the gallery and am impressed with the results so far... Very prolific quantity from Tony OT!! Mine is nearing completion and inspired by the builds here, but I am out of unbuilt Hurri kits in my stash so it looks like I may have to buy another but am restricted to buying any more kits at the mo....!!!! 1
PhantomBigStu Posted February 28, 2016 Posted February 28, 2016 Is the 3D kits hurricane tin opener still on sale?
JOCKNEY Posted February 28, 2016 Posted February 28, 2016 I'm hoping to join in with the Robert Stanford Tuck example, but chasing a missing bit in the wanted section first. Cheers Pat
tonyot Posted March 15, 2016 Posted March 15, 2016 Had a massive acrylic matt varnish failure on my latest pair of Hurri`s at the weekend and it all went white and milky,.....urgh! Scrubbed them both using washing up liquid which helped a bit and then had to clear out the panel lines with a craft knife as these were all white. Ruined a few decals in the process but I`ve given the models a coat of Future Klear and this seems to have hidden most of what remained of the white,.....although some touch up painting is still needed.......phew,.....it has spoiled the models a little but it could have been much worse! All the best for now, Tony
stevehnz Posted March 16, 2016 Posted March 16, 2016 I'm surish I originally put my hand up for this, I'd like to join in anyway, I've just kicked for touch on the P-47 GB ground under by the (re)carpet monster, but hope I can manage this one in the time, looking to do an early 111 sqn machine in the same colours as the one in the old Profile Publication on the Hurricane Mk.I Steve. 1
tonyot Posted March 16, 2016 Posted March 16, 2016 Looking forward to seeing your Hurri Steve,...is this of any use for reference? Cheers Tony
stevehnz Posted March 17, 2016 Posted March 17, 2016 Thanks Tony, I think that scheme but without the pretty 111s & more importantly, no black under wings. Admittedly I'm going on the Profile 3 view, I've not seen a photo of this but for now I'm going to make that do. Steve.
stevehnz Posted March 26, 2016 Posted March 26, 2016 I'll put this query here & hope its not the wrong place seeing as its for the Hurricane I'm building. For an early Hurricane, no armour plate behind pilot, where do the seat belts go, more particularly the top mount of the Sutton harness? On later machines they appear to have been bolted into a recess in the armour plate but no obvious mount on the Airfix part & I'm damned if I can find any refs to this in the googlesphere. Steve.
Black Knight Posted March 26, 2016 Posted March 26, 2016 I believe, with or without armour, the seat belts are attached to a fuselage cross tube member
stevehnz Posted March 26, 2016 Posted March 26, 2016 Thanks for this, I guess the cut out in the armour plate is to allow access to the cross member which would mean there would be a plate that the belts fastened to/were sandwiched by,,, or something? Steve.
Black Knight Posted March 26, 2016 Posted March 26, 2016 Thanks for this, I guess the cut out in the armour plate is to allow access to the cross member which would mean there would be a plate that the belts fastened to/were sandwiched by,,, or something? Steve. I've looked at some of my reference books. I cant see anything clearly. What I do see looks like the harness goes over the top of the seat joined as one, but splits into two again. Each of those straps goes to the main metal frame as far back as a station under the aerial post. The straps seem to be attached, not to a cross member, but to the star block into which all the tubes at that station are joined. The straps which come through the hole in the seat appear to go to a station under the battery/radio shelf, ie, not immediately behind the seat, and not as far back as the top straps. Again they seem to attach to the star block. Thus in each case the straps may be attached to the frame by a triangular plate, with a slot for the strap and a hole for a bolt to the star block. I don't know if this accurate, its just what I'm interpreting from photos and schematics. 1
Troy Smith Posted March 26, 2016 Posted March 26, 2016 Thanks for this, I guess the cut out in the armour plate is to allow access to the cross member which would mean there would be a plate that the belts fastened to/were sandwiched by,,, or something? Steve. Hi Steve I think they just go through the plywood bulkhead, onto the framework behind. note the armour plate over the bulkhead in this shot this shows a restoration without the plate at an earlier stage, from here... http://www.britmodeller.com/forums/index.php?/topic/39861-naked-hurricane/ but no 'smoking gun' that I can find...yet HTH T
stevehnz Posted March 27, 2016 Posted March 27, 2016 Thanks BK & Troy for your efforts, I had looked at a couple of schematics which were way too complicated to show the sort of detail I was after & had also seen that first picture that Troy posted but still wasn't sure how it would work on the ply bulkhead. I have made an attempt this evening in spite of, in 1/72 its hard to see much & as usual my straps are about 1/32 scale width. but its an attempt at a Sutton harness which ends at a point above the seat back. It'll do for now, I'm just pleased that Troy was unable to find an unarmoured photo, I don't feel quite so bad now. Steve.
robw_uk Posted April 2, 2016 Posted April 2, 2016 Questions.... 1 what colour for 1940 mk1 wheel strutsand inside of wheel well doors? 2 would the fuselage markings and tail markings fade?
Troy Smith Posted April 2, 2016 Posted April 2, 2016 Questions.... 1 what colour for 1940 mk1 wheel strutsand inside of wheel well doors? 2 would the fuselage markings and tail markings fade? 1 - painted aluminium, as are all the internal areas apart from cockpit walls and rear bulkhead. 2 - paint fades in time, but the service life of a 1940 Hurricane was often very short. Work from a photo, or ask about a specific airframe. HTH 2
PhantomBigStu Posted April 3, 2016 Posted April 3, 2016 Looks like I'm not done, just won a Revell hurri IIB 2
PhantomBigStu Posted April 7, 2016 Posted April 7, 2016 (edited) Decided not to enter the IIB, given how much I have going on and the shortness of time, saving the IIB to be done as russian one for the eastern front build, so I'm done for this GB, 3 completed hurricanes isn't a bad lineup Edited April 7, 2016 by PhantomBigStu
maltadefender Posted April 12, 2016 Posted April 12, 2016 (edited) Hi all, As I finish the disaster that is my Starter Set GB Messerschmitt, first build for more than a year, I feel the need to get my eye back in before offering up an Edgar tribute Spit. A quick and dirty Hurricane or two feels in order, which will probably be Malta-based although I find myself eyeing a couple of SEAC Hurricanes in the stash as well. I'll nail the lid down on my '109 and be right with you... Question on the SEAC Hurris: Sky Blue or Grey underneath please?? Edited April 12, 2016 by maltadefender 1
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