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Troy Smith Blabber Mouth

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While extracting other GB entries from my stash I found two Italeri Hurricanes in 48th Mk I and IIc. I think I would like to join in with one of them. Off to look for decal inspiration and find Troy's snag lists for these kits.

Love those early (BEF?) schemes with the rudder markings.

Never made the Italeri kit, but think it's not bad.

My ears are burning..... it not good though Doug...

http://www.britmodeller.com/forums/index.php?/topic/234935596-sea-hurricane-148-italeri/#entry1390213

The basic shape is OK, apart from the flippin' nose, and the spinners are a waste of time, the blunt Rotol maybe salvageable..

Classic Italeri, which is a bizarre thing, like tthe left hand nnot knowing what the right is doing... the way things are drawn on the instructions and box actually being correct, but wrong in the kit.

The Mk I is a good candidate for conversion to fabric wing, as the gun bays detail is wrong, and needs rescribing to be correct.

The new Airfix kit was disappointing for me as they didn't actually "nail it" as the new Spitfires seem to have done,

see Basilisks excellent build for details of it's problems

http://www.britmodeller.com/forums/index.php?/topic/234986216-148-airfix-new-tool-hurricane-mki-p3039-from-no229-squadron-completed-on-31-10-at-1150-pm/

the Italeri kit i call a "where's wally" kit, the harder you look, the more problems you find....and that's without trying to build it!

It's been noted that closing the cowling up is tricky, and the side panel needs to have the exhaust slot deepened to fit the exhausts....

I think the cowling may have the same problems that the 1/24th Airfix kit has, being made to fit a to scale Merlin, and this being too big.

HTH... sorry if it doesn't

T

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Hi, Michael! Thank you for the reply! I think the crucial piece of information that I managed to leave out is 1/72. I think Hasegawa is the only one that has it for this scale, but whenever I spot one I only see steep prices.

Btw, I currently have Airfix`s 1/72 Hurricane with fabric wings and intend to build that in Romanian colours. It looks like a very nice kit and can`t wait to start building it.

possible, but only if you want to build it as one of 3 Ex Yugoslav Hurricanes passed onto the Romanian's by the Germans,which had fabric wings, the other Romanian planes were metal winged.

They do have a very interesting scheme though, as they retained the 3 colour uppers.

there is a thread on Yugoslav Hurricanes here, with paint matches and a camo diagram

http://www.britmodeller.com/forums/index.php?/topic/234951133-yugoslav-hurricanes-recommended-schemes/page-2

details of them in Romanian service are in Romanian Fighter Colours book. They were number 13,14,15.

Ask if you want more info

HTH

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Thanks! I have the book and had also read that particular thread. I will be doing no. 15. Currently I`m trying to decide how to achieve that pair of 15s from the tail (mask or homemade decals). There is also a very interesting photo of no. 14 in a later - Romanian - camouflage, but I`ll leave that for another time.

Theoretically, an early Mk. I from Airfix could be converted into a late Mk. I, but that`s beyond my current skills. That`s why I was asking about the Hasegawa kit. It`s been a long wish of mine to build no.3. Again, for another time I guess. :D

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Hi Fin

this is another useful Romanian Hurricane thread

http://www.britmodeller.com/forums/index.php?/topic/234956047-romanian-hurricane-underside-colours/

for a 1/72nd metal wing Mk I, the OLD tool Airfix Mk I from the late 1970's, while basic and with raised panel lines, is well shaped, and with some modelling skill, makes into a decent model. It'd no longer in production but there are plenty about. There have been build here cross kitting the wings with the new tool fabric wing Mk I

You will need a De Havilland propeller and spinner from a Spitfire Mk I though.

see http://www.britmodeller.com/forums/index.php?/topic/234980181-hawker-hurricane-propellers-and-spinners-a-modellers-guide/

HTH

T

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Sorry can't help, but I was wondering the same thing.

Right I'm going to have a play in this GB I'm hoping, with something unusual using a 1:72 Airfix Mk.1 Fabric Wing. Decals have just been ordered.

Hi Mish

how about a Yugoslav Hurricane, captured by the Italians, painted in Italian colours, and then having 'RAF' roundels reapplied for a film....

This airplane with clearly bogus British markings is the Hawker Hurricane captured by Italians after the Yugoslav’s surrender (17 April 1941) and show by a sequence of the movie “Un pilota ritorna” (A pilot return) shot on 1942 with authentic aircrafts, as the Cant-Z-1007bis of the 30th Stormo based at Viterbo, by Roberto Rossellini. Rossellini, one of the leader of the post-war great Italian cinema, used as “enemy aircraft” also the RAF Bristol Blenheim Mk IV N3589 landed for a mistake at Pantelleria on September 1941 and therein seized, and, indeed, this Hurricane. The late was the Hurricane serial number 2337 built under British license in Yugoslavia by Fabrika Aeroplana I Idroplana “Zmaj” at Zemun, near Belgrade, and captured by the Italians in Nikšić, Montenegro. After the capture, the Hurricane, the only aircraft of this type seized by the Italians in Yugoslavia and not two as reported by few sources, was flew to Tirana, in Albania, and soon after, already with the Regia Aeronautica’s markings, moved to Guidonia’s Flight Test Center. Late September 1941 was exhibited to Mussolini. At Guidonia the Hurricane was tested by many Italian pilots and, at the end, used also for propaganda’s footage. The aircraft was finally destroyed in an incident at beginning of 1943. Victor Sierra

photo here

http://www.ww2incolor.com/other/HURRICANE-EX-YAF.html

I'd say that was unusual? I just ran across the above link this evening...

HTH

T

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I think yes, the text on the profile mentioning 'Brookland and Farnborough ' and 'later extended to undersides' encourage me to think that although there may not be photos, that it did happen.

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Hi Fin

for a 1/72nd metal wing Mk I, the OLD tool Airfix Mk I from the late 1970's, while basic and with raised panel lines, is well shaped, and with some modelling skill, makes into a decent model. It'd no longer in production but there are plenty about. There have been build here cross kitting the wings with the new tool fabric wing Mk I

Thanks! Do you have a link to a thread showing the construction phase for such a combo?

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Thanks! Do you have a link to a thread showing the construction phase for such a combo?

yes, here http://www.britmodeller.com/forums/index.php?/topic/234980559-airfix-172nd-hurricane-conv-fabric-to-metal-wings-finished/

by the prolific Tony O'Toole, who actually build models rather than chatting about them (What me :rolleyes: )

There maybe more, I'll edit them in if I find them.

HTH

T

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Sorry can't help, but I was wondering the same thing.

Right I'm going to have a play in this GB I'm hoping, with something unusual using a 1:72 Airfix Mk.1 Fabric Wing. Decals have just been ordered.

I have the 310 squadron set from them....and I'll be building more of them for this GB. The problem I found was that the decals don't really react to a decal softener and are a bit on the thick side. I had silvering issues as well, and their instructions are terrible. I probably spent five hours getting the research together on correct decal placement, because they only give on side view and a generic top view. I don't have a newer photo yet but this is an in-progress one.

12R%20-%201_zpsafynslj1.jpg

They make interesting sets, one of the few to allow you to make a squadron. But execution is a bit lacking.

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Good grief, is it time for this one now? I'm already behind in 2 GBs (due to weather). Here's hoping that we lose some humidity very soon and I can get cracking!

For those who may care, it's 0840, 29°C (heading for 32) and 85% humidity. The heat I can handle, but the humidity makes sitting at a work bench unpleasant. (The mangoes have been extraordinarily nice this year though.)

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I have the 310 squadron set from them....and I'll be building more of them for this GB. The problem I found was that the decals don't really react to a decal softener and are a bit on the thick side. I had silvering issues as well, and their instructions are terrible. I probably spent five hours getting the research together on correct decal placement, because they only give on side view and a generic top view. I don't have a newer photo yet but this is an in-progress one.

12R%20-%201_zpsafynslj1.jpg

They make interesting sets, one of the few to allow you to make a squadron. But execution is a bit lacking.

I stuck a link to this in the reference section

http://www.boxartden.com/gallery/index.php/Profiles/Camoflage-Markings/03-Hawker-Hurricane

Old but still a very good starting place, you may know about it, if not, note it has factory camo and marking diagrams, and is very good for sorting out the many changes that occurred in camo and markings in 39-41.

Also, it seems Hurricanes up to 1942, the interiors are all aluminium dope, apart from cockpit side and bulkhead, which are grey green, all the interior tubing is painted aluminium, as are wheel wells, inside of flaps, gun bays, engine bays, landing lights....

for more with photos

http://www.britmodeller.com/forums/index.php?/topic/234963507-all-the-hurricane-questions-you-want-to-ask-here/page-3#entry1682406

http://www.britmodeller.com/forums/index.php?/topic/61201-gloster-hurricane-cockpit-colour/

http://www.britmodeller.com/forums/index.php?/topic/52968-hurricane-mk1-cockpit-colour/page-2

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this site has some useful info on 310 and 312 squadrons

https://fcafa.wordpress.com/2012/06/02/hurricane-aircraft-of-310-sqn-and-312-sqn/

HTH

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I have a question, I have a corgi diecast hurricane that needs a repaint, guessing its not elliglbe to go in the gallery at the end, but would there be any problems posting a WIP thread for it?

Also got a voice in my head tellling me to break my own theme rules and add some mid stone and azure blue to my hannants order

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Quick question: I noticed in the rules that snap-tite kits are not allowed. What's the hosts view on the Hobbyboss easy kits ? My plane would be to build one of these but I'd like to be sure they are eligible. Have to say that my plan involves a bit of butchery and some scratchbuilding...

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