DominikS Posted August 15, 2014 Share Posted August 15, 2014 Hi E'vryone I decided to start this topic as the information on Eduard's IPMS USA poster made me very curious. What doeas it mean? What comes to my mind is the short note in Eduard's Magazine that next year they are going to concentrate on 1/72 scale. I wonder what do they mean by that? We have a few candidates: 1. Avia B.534 - a model mentioned together with 1/72 Hellcat, but afterwards no news since that moment (maybe because RS Models released theirs) 2. Focke Wulf 190 family 3. Messerschmitt 109E 4. Spitfire Mk.IX 5. MiG-21 Methinks it logical after their policy, for example Messerschmitt 110 or Hellcat. Ev'rybody has one's wishlist, mine is to get Spitfire first (I wish they released her for Xmas) and then the rest. Maybe someone talked to people from Eduard during IPMS USA Nationals and could share the info with other peole from this side of the Pond? Cheers Dominik Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas V. Posted August 15, 2014 Share Posted August 15, 2014 Everything you mentioned except Emil family, remains to be seen weather Dora will be included, and if four new kits means subtypes or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Neu- Posted August 15, 2014 Share Posted August 15, 2014 (edited) I kinda disagree with your assumptions. Eduard has been very good at identifying underserved but popular market segments and blowing them away. The hellcat came out when there was only an old hasegawa kit and the mediocre Italeri... the cybermodeller one appeared right as they were in production. The Mig-15 appeared after a panned airfix kit, with KP being the only other accurate option being readily available. BF-110 was similar: Older fujimi and italeri kits and a panned BF-110. So they watch the market carefully: they really try to avoid going up against an very good kit when possible. I suspect they don't like going up against Japanese kits as well, because many of them have very good exteriors at decent prices, and they sell aftermarket to serve them. Given that, I really don't think an Spitfire IX is likely at all: AZ has saturated that market with their Joypacks, and the high end has been served by CMR and to a lesser extent Sword (for some versions). I'm sure that Eduard can make a "better" one than the AZ and generate some sales, but it probably won't be that much better than Sword or CMR, and most people will likely just go for the "nearly as good" AZ joy pack.... where you get three for the same price. Sure Eduard have the research done, but the initial tooling and production costs are significant, and there there are many other, more profitable opportunities to be had. So what are the other options? FW-190 is a good possibility. None of the other Czech or Japanese manufacturers have released one recently. BF-109E is as well, but AZ is chomping through those versions and I can see another Joypack as being likely. Mig-21 is a definite possibility as well. These are some that I think are possible: F-86 - similar to the Mig-15 -> not so good airfix, fujimi is the other other "good" version Me-262 - Academy is pretty good, but not great... everything else isn't very good at all. Also has the possibility of the Avia version. P-38 - RS has released them... pretty good, but its a limited run kit. Tempest - A pretty good but simple Academy kit... not much else. F6F Wildcat - A few Czech limited runs and some older Asian kits, but little else. Finally, Soviet aircraft in general haven't been well served. La-5, LaGGs, ect. Pe-2 is one I can see happening. However there does not seem to be the same market interest as Luftwaffe, RAF or USAAF stuff. I'm sure others can come up with more. Edited August 15, 2014 by -Neu- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Denford Posted August 15, 2014 Share Posted August 15, 2014 Add to the list Dauntless - Hasegawa (if you can find them) good for their time, but a newer series needed especially with perforated dive brakes. P-36/-40 series - Nobody offers the whole series: yes there are significant differences during the development, but if Eduard can cope with the Bf110 this ought to be possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kuro Nezumi Posted August 15, 2014 Share Posted August 15, 2014 Downsizing their Albatros D.III would be nice, or anything to commemorate the WWI Centenary. This may be a long shot, but a new Ju 87B would be most welcome, following their Bf 110 series. And maybe some Brassin resin wingfold sets as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Neu- Posted August 15, 2014 Share Posted August 15, 2014 Add to the list Dauntless - Hasegawa (if you can find them) good for their time, but a newer series needed especially with perforated dive brakes. P-36/-40 series - Nobody offers the whole series: yes there are significant differences during the development, but if Eduard can cope with the Bf110 this ought to be possible. I was thinking about the dauntless! that's another one that's screaming for a new kit. Another kit is the T-6/Harvard series. Plenty of options there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DominikS Posted August 15, 2014 Author Share Posted August 15, 2014 (edited) @-Neu- I don't think AZ's Spitfires saturated the market, as you can never have too many Spitfires. Their Joy Pack was a hit but, in my opinion, if Eduard release Spitfire they'll sell lots of them. What I've noticed modellers are divided into three main groups: 1. Spitfire maniacs 2. Mustang maniacs 3. German 109s and 190s maniacs Models of those planes, decent models, are always good investment. But I do agree that there are lots of planes that need decent kits - mentioned P-36, F4F or (one of my favourites) D.520 or MS 405/406/410. Vladimir Sulc mentioned during the chat connected to Bf 109G release that they are going to release Spitfire, and earlier he had mentioned also releasing Focke Wulf. So, I think, they'll do it. In case of Spitfire very soon, I hope. But what we can do now is only to wait and see (and keep fingers crossed). Cheers! Edited August 15, 2014 by DominikS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas V. Posted August 15, 2014 Share Posted August 15, 2014 V.Sulc already announced Mk.IX / Fw 190 Late family / MiG-21 later, B-534 has also been mentioned but if I am not wrong not confirmed. Revolution also means we will se Royal Class and Czech Limited editions of Mk.IX as in 1/48 scale. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintsPhil Posted August 15, 2014 Share Posted August 15, 2014 Mig-17 maybe? Not too far fetched after the 15... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cardiff guy Posted August 15, 2014 Share Posted August 15, 2014 how about a Buccaneer , single seat Venom , or a Scimitar maybe an AEW Gannet . Ok I'll get my I must just be on a FAA vibe Glenn. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul A H Posted August 16, 2014 Share Posted August 16, 2014 MiG-21, MiG-21, MiG-21, MiG-21 and MiG-21 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oz rb fan Posted August 16, 2014 Share Posted August 16, 2014 how about going a little left field........something odd.....a decent beaufighter for starters?..........and why european...ki-84 could do with a decent kit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Julien Posted August 16, 2014 Share Posted August 16, 2014 Following their MiG-15, how about a 17, 19 and 21. Pretty sure they would sell. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kuro Nezumi Posted August 16, 2014 Share Posted August 16, 2014 Following their MiG-15, how about a 17, 19 and 21. Pretty sure they would sell. DEFINITELY a MiG-19! There hasn't been a decent readily available 1/72 kit in ages. And perhaps some griffon Spitfires or even a new Wildcat. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dazdot Posted August 16, 2014 Share Posted August 16, 2014 A reduced scale of their fw190 series would be hilarious, after the problems people have building them in 48th. After all they do just tend to reduce the size of parts on their kits. I would love to see an up to date b26. Or even a new tool b24 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Denford Posted August 16, 2014 Share Posted August 16, 2014 (edited) A reduced scale of their fw190 series would be hilarious, after the problems people have building them in 48th. After all they do just tend to reduce the size of parts on their kits. I would love to see an up to date b26. Or even a new tool b24 Are you seriously expecting Eduard (what this thread is about) to produce a new series of B-24's? Yes, they did issue some B-24's away back, but these were ex Academy. Edited August 16, 2014 by Denford Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Petr Posted August 16, 2014 Share Posted August 16, 2014 (edited) - Avia B.534 - Focke Wulf 190A family - Messerschmitt 109G - Spitfire Mk.IX - MiG-21 2nd & 3rd generation - Me-262 (but the 1/48 will be released first) Kits from the list above was mentioned By Vladimir Sulc several times on Czech discussion forum (the sequence does not reflect the release roadmap). My personal guess is that this roadmap is approx till 2017. As far as I remember, the "revolution" is more about release schema and products configuration. E.g. weekends will consists of 2 camouflage schemes, there will be "supefabric" seat belts as well. Moreover, existing molds will be released in a limited edition, may be any specials (my wish is L-39V). No 3rd party rebox is considered now (1/72) If I remember well, Eduard ambition is to release a 1/72 kit each month....:-) Note: in 1/48, Eduard will rebox Trumps Mig-23 and Hasegawa A-4M Edited August 16, 2014 by Petr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiger331 Posted August 16, 2014 Share Posted August 16, 2014 Proposed 1:72 releases….. Yawn….Yawn…..Yawn….Yawn…..Yawn……Yawn….Yawn…….Yawn (with the possible exception of the MiG 19 and 21) How many more ME Bf-109s, Fw 190s, Spitfires can we (should we) endure ?……..PLEASE come up with something more ORIGINAL !! ……Blackburn Buccaneer, Mirage 2000C, Saab Viggen, F-101A/C or RF-101 Voodoo, Scimitar, F-5E Tiger II, Gloster Javelin, HAL Marut Beaufighter, Beaufort, Ki-84, P-40E/M, Baltimore etc etc etc 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vppelt68 Posted August 16, 2014 Share Posted August 16, 2014 Yak-9. No real competition in current kits available, not hurting any of their AM sales, sexy plane as hell and, I guess I haven't said this yet, sexy plane as hell! V-P 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dazdot Posted August 16, 2014 Share Posted August 16, 2014 Are you seriously expecting Eduard (what this thread is about) to produce a new series of B-24's? Yes, they did issue some B-24's away back, but these were ex Academy. Its a 1/72 revolution according to them the academy kit was minicraft and let's face it that's probably the best of a distinctly mediocre bunch. I hope someone produces a new b24 and a decent halifax . after all there are plenty of quality lancs and b17s out there. may as well be Eduard as anyone else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary C Posted August 16, 2014 Share Posted August 16, 2014 HAL Marut Oh yeah, I can just see the stampede for that one... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heraldcoupe Posted August 17, 2014 Share Posted August 17, 2014 Ithe academy kit was minicraft and let's face it that's probably the best of a distinctly mediocre bunch. ....except for the Hasegawa kit. Cheers, Bill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
occa Posted August 17, 2014 Share Posted August 17, 2014 Its a 1/72 revolution according to them the academy kit was minicraft and let's face it that's probably the best of a distinctly mediocre bunch. I hope someone produces a new b24 and a decent halifax . after all there are plenty of quality lancs and b17s out there. may as well be Eduard as anyone else. What's wrong with the Hasegawa B-24? Somehow revolution sounds a bit dangerous IMO (like their 1/48 Me 109 G proved), they should try to be a bit more humble with their announcements, if possible lol ... Mr. Schulz certainly likes to take his mouth full. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiger331 Posted August 17, 2014 Share Posted August 17, 2014 Oh yeah, I can just see the stampede for that one... I wondered how long it would take someone to notice my 'wild card'…….Yes, its of very limited appeal, I grant you, but it is a lovely looking airplane and its had combat experience…..more than can be said about the Supermarine Swift (not that I have anything against the Swift….another very nice looking aircraft) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Julien Posted August 17, 2014 Share Posted August 17, 2014 Proposed 1:72 releases….. How many more ME Bf-109s, Fw 190s, Spitfires can we (should we) endure ?……..PLEASE come up with something more ORIGINAL !! Unfortunately thats what sells. Heller did a nice little 1/72 Mirage 2000, wonder if they will re-issue it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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