trickyrich Posted January 28, 2016 Posted January 28, 2016 Hmmm I have a feeling this one may be a fake, I've not read or seen a photo of a captured "Bubble Top" before but am happy to be proved wrong....though in this case I doubt it. Ok back to my quest for info on a mysterious centreline drop tank I've seen on photos of Brazilian P-47's. Here are a few photo's I have of the drop tank in question. It's not one of the "squashed" 150 gal tanks, it look like a 75 gal tank that has been widen. I so far haven't been able to find out any further info on it. Actually I've been hard pressed to find photo's of any P-47 other than the Brazilian one's with this style tank fitted! I would be very happy if someone could enlighten me as to what this tank is/was, and was it something unique to the Brazilian P-47's.
Rob G Posted January 28, 2016 Posted January 28, 2016 Can anyone show me a real photo of a captured (German) P-47 bubble top ? All I can find are pictures of Razorbacks and this profile.But that could be fake or from a game. Erwin, to the best of my knowledge (admittedly hardly encyclopedic), there were 2 German units that used Allied aircraft - Wanderzircus Rosarius and Kampfgeschwader 200. Rosarius had 2 P-47s on strength, both of them razorbacks, KG200 didn't have any (according to the information I have, which I am quite happy to be proved wrong on!) So at this point, you're outta luck with the bubbletop. Hmmm I have a feeling this one may be a fake, I've not read or seen a photo of a captured "Bubble Top" before but am happy to be proved wrong....though in this case I doubt it. Ok back to my quest for info on a mysterious centreline drop tank I've seen on photos of Brazilian P-47's. Here are a few photo's I have of the drop tank in question. It's not one of the "squashed" 150 gal tanks, it look like a 75 gal tank that has been widen. I so far haven't been able to find out any further info on it. Actually I've been hard pressed to find photo's of any P-47 other than the Brazilian one's with this style tank fitted! I would be very happy if someone could enlighten me as to what this tank is/was, and was it something unique to the Brazilian P-47's. Rich, that centre photo rings a dim, distant bell, but I'm not sure of the where, why or what. I'll continue to think on it. (Don't hold your breath waiting for an answer. ) 1
SleeperService Posted January 29, 2016 Posted January 29, 2016 I may have an answer for you Rich. In Roger Freeman's 'Thunderbolt' - A Documentary History of the Republic P-47 Pg 89 he states (my italics) Mediterranean-based P-47s received 75 and a new 110 gal metal tank from US production.... I think this is what you've found pictures of. There are none in the book I can see other than one of yours above. However I do see a filler neck (?) on the first picture but not the other, a modified 75 gallon type?
trickyrich Posted January 29, 2016 Posted January 29, 2016 i think you're right, the first maybe that tank you're talking about, but I reckon the second two are something that was made up. If I feel game I may have a go at making some of these tanks up!
stevehnz Posted January 29, 2016 Posted January 29, 2016 Ahem, attention Mr T. Rich, may I draw your attention to my post a few above this (#174), the suspense is killing me. Steve.
trickyrich Posted January 29, 2016 Posted January 29, 2016 Ahem, attention Mr T. Rich, may I draw your attention to my post a few above this (#174), the suspense is killing me. Steve. sorry about that, missed your post. That sounds fine, start a thread and get to it! 1
dfqweofekwpeweiop4 Posted February 2, 2016 Posted February 2, 2016 I've just got my hands on the new Academy Gabreski Dual kit, has anyone else seen it? It contains a P-47D and F-86E. Decals are by Cartograf, so there's none of the usual Academy decal issues. The markings are for the last P-47 Gabreski flew, so it has lots of kill markings, red cowling and RAF camouflage paint. It's pretty cheap too for 2 kits. I'll be using the markings on a Tamiya P-47D as the leading P-47 Ace deserves the best! thanks Mike 2
PhantomBigStu Posted February 2, 2016 Posted February 2, 2016 Quite tempted by that gabreski duo, though would have preferred his black and white striped Korean sabre 1
lampie Posted February 7, 2016 Posted February 7, 2016 Hi all. I'd like in on this too. For various reasons I've had zilch bench time for the last year or so, I've got a couple of builds nearing completion that I tat around with and a "quick" 1:72 razorback will hopefully get my mojo back
PhantomBigStu Posted February 7, 2016 Posted February 7, 2016 Actually, I've got the decals from the Revell 1/72 for 56th FG one in RAF camo, wasn't going to do this, but sorted my stocks of RAF green out so can, is the hasegawa one suitable as a base or will I have to buy a Revell, academy or tamiya one?
dfqweofekwpeweiop4 Posted February 7, 2016 Posted February 7, 2016 I believe the Hasegawa Razorback would work for an RAF Mk I and the Bubbletop would work for a Mk II. thanks Mike
PhantomBigStu Posted February 7, 2016 Posted February 7, 2016 See my mistake now, I should phrased that better, I meant the 56th FG usaaf painted using RAF paint stocks, such as the one from this https://www.scalemates.com/kits/176231-revell-03984-p-47m-thunderbolt, cheers for answering though Mike and actually is good to know I can do an RAF one from it
dfqweofekwpeweiop4 Posted February 7, 2016 Posted February 7, 2016 No worries - you can't make a P-47M from the Hasegawa kit, you'll have to stick to a P-47D-25 with that one. If you want to make an M model, you'll need the Revell kit, in your link, the Special Hobby (Academy kit with new parts) kit or the Tamiya kit with Quickboost bits. Look for a 62nd Sqd (56th FG) D-25 and you should be fine. thanks Mike
PhantomBigStu Posted February 7, 2016 Posted February 7, 2016 Thanks mike, looks like it will be the OD neutral grey hasegawa afterall, assuming I can find the time as already involved in 3 GBs
PhantomBigStu Posted February 19, 2016 Posted February 19, 2016 (edited) Hooray I have finally after having just about every 1/72 kit in my amazon, hannants or wonderland baskets at some point, I have finally clicked the checkout button. 1 Revell p-47 on route via amazon to be started over the weekend to be done as 56FG one using raf paint. won't be getting to use my new neutral grey yet Edited February 19, 2016 by PhantomBigStu 1
trickyrich Posted February 19, 2016 Posted February 19, 2016 sounds like you've had fun shopping! Will be interesting to see what you have bought and in mind.
PhantomBigStu Posted February 19, 2016 Posted February 19, 2016 Cheers rich, will post up once its delivered tommorow
PhantomBigStu Posted February 21, 2016 Posted February 21, 2016 Have the feeling I've asked this before in here but the 56FG ones using RAF paint were not painted with natural metal/aluminium undersides?
PhantomBigStu Posted February 21, 2016 Posted February 21, 2016 Think I asked this centuries ago, but I can't find the thread in my constent, Revell suggest natural metal for the underside of 56th FG jugs, this scheme what is the correct colour, obviously some form of grey but what? Medium sea grey, neutral grey or something else entirely?
dfqweofekwpeweiop4 Posted February 23, 2016 Posted February 23, 2016 Is that the M model? I'll check when I'm home but I'm pretty sure the undersides were nmf. thanks Mike
PhantomBigStu Posted February 23, 2016 Posted February 23, 2016 Yep that's the m, Sod's law I've already painted the underside in two coats of msg, plus the same for the upper in ocean grey
dfqweofekwpeweiop4 Posted February 23, 2016 Posted February 23, 2016 It's NMF on all M undersides I'm afraid. The 62nd Sqd did have RAF Dark Grey/Ocean Grey uppers though. thanks Mike
Arniec Posted March 5, 2016 Posted March 5, 2016 Sorry Rich and all the guys at this GB for not beeing here reguraly. My excuse is that it has been quite bussy at work. I will Try to pop in whenever I can. Cheers,
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