Rich G Posted July 28, 2014 Share Posted July 28, 2014 Rob, Just thought I'd throw my two pence in, I have a 1/72 B-52D that I completed in this scheme and I used mr hobby aqueous colour paints to do the job, I think they're pretty spot on, but I've also done the SEA scheme on other vietnam era kits using the humbrol colours previously mentioned here (116/117/118) and I think their pretty spot on too once dry. I'm not sure I'd use revell aqua or enamels, although I like their paints, I don't think they do the right shades of green etc and as they love mixing colours in %'s you'd have to do this with their paints to get the right colour. Rich 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham Boak Posted July 28, 2014 Share Posted July 28, 2014 Giorgio: I meant the TAC SEA, where the "tan" is a pinkish sand. Sorry if this introduced any confusion. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robvulcan Posted July 28, 2014 Author Share Posted July 28, 2014 Thanks for all the help. And all this for a 1/350th kit !! However its welcome as I intend to make a few B-52, a 1/144th H and D is also non the cards and I'd like to do a current type too, Pardon my ignorance I might like em but I know nowt about them other than they are big beautiful, make a great whistle and go by the cool name Buff ! I can feel a few Phantoms coming on too. I might give MrColour a try not used them before. I hear they are great Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deanflyer Posted July 28, 2014 Share Posted July 28, 2014 Where did you get that photo from? I mean the in flight jet. Ive never seen a H wearing SEA before this! Probably not - it's just my model. I wanted a B-52 in that scheme, and remember I did say "to hell with it"... accuracy has never been something associated with my modelling! Sorry for the thread hijack, Rob. Cheers, Dean 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robvulcan Posted July 28, 2014 Author Share Posted July 28, 2014 (edited) Probably not - it's just my model. I wanted a B-52 in that scheme, and remember I did say "to hell with it"... accuracy has never been something associated with my modelling! Sorry for the thread hijack, Rob. Cheers, Dean Dean, please feel free I am very easy going and like conversation to flow. It's all interesting and its nice to know others model for fun in terms of freedom an imagination rather than always going for accuracy.I live both sides of the fence. I have never encountered anyone as imaginative as you though with the black and white schemes, lanberra, and others. It's good to see. Not holding one genre up against another but because so many seek the accuracy thing I do like to see people input their own dreams, whims, and fun. As a creative musician I appreciate that, taking the established and doing something new. It's all good. So to your B-52 the flying one is your model !! Wow it looks real ! Edited July 28, 2014 by robvulcan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElectroSoldier Posted July 28, 2014 Share Posted July 28, 2014 Sorry, I just realised about my typo.It isnt FS30201, it is 34201 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robvulcan Posted July 28, 2014 Author Share Posted July 28, 2014 Cheers I had not noticed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElectroSoldier Posted July 28, 2014 Share Posted July 28, 2014 If my memory serves me correctly Hannants paints make those colours in the correct shades, same with the SIOP scheme colours. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jennings Heilig Posted July 28, 2014 Share Posted July 28, 2014 (edited) B-52Ds wore standard SEA tactical camo colors, not SIOP. Even before they've finished reading my words, someone is undoubtedly linking a photo of a D in SIOP to gleefully prove me wrong, but it was (if it ever happened) not the norm for the D model. Edited July 28, 2014 by Jennings Heilig 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robvulcan Posted July 28, 2014 Author Share Posted July 28, 2014 Just been looking for a 1/144th B-52 D and H, No problem finding the H but does anyone kit the D ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jennings Heilig Posted July 28, 2014 Share Posted July 28, 2014 In a word: Nope 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robvulcan Posted July 28, 2014 Author Share Posted July 28, 2014 In a word: Nope Well ,,,, Damn !!!! , I am very surprised that this classic has not been done in 1/144th ! I would have thought it be an obvious choice for any kit manufacture. Oh well hopefully soon someone will do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panoz Posted July 28, 2014 Share Posted July 28, 2014 Just been looking for a 1/144th B-52 D and H, No problem finding the H but does anyone kit the D ? Would a 1/200 scale one do? http://www.scalemates.com/products/product.php?id=170534 Not that you'd find one nowadays but you never know what might turn up on ebay... Still available is the old 1/100 scale Tamiya one which odd scale notwithstanding is actually very nice. http://www.amazon.co.uk/Tamiya-300060025-Aeroplane-Boeing-Stratofortress/dp/B004QTOAZW 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panoz Posted July 28, 2014 Share Posted July 28, 2014 (edited) And just because some of the answers here are confusing, all B-52Ds used in Viietnam were modified for conventional bombing missions before transfer to the warzone. This including repainting in SEA camo over black undersurfaces. (FS:34201/ 34159/34079/17038). Edited due to wrong FS codes quoted. Edited July 29, 2014 by Panoz 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robvulcan Posted July 28, 2014 Author Share Posted July 28, 2014 (edited) Thanks for all the info. 1/200 would be nice but I have been eyeing up the Tamiya 1/100 job, Would go very nice with the 1/96 frog vulcan I have and the 1/100 bucc, viggen and lightning. I really wish 1:96 /. 1:100 would return. I think its a great scale. Edited July 28, 2014 by robvulcan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jennings Heilig Posted July 29, 2014 Share Posted July 29, 2014 I've marveled for years that no one has done a tall tail BUFF in 1/144. It's a very manageable size for the BUFF, and there are gobs if interesting variants and color schemes for them. An opportunity lost, and still waiting. I've recommended it to several manufacturers over the years, but no one has bitten on it (yet). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giorgio N Posted July 29, 2014 Share Posted July 29, 2014 B-52Ds wore standard SEA tactical camo colors, not SIOP. Even before they've finished reading my words, someone is undoubtedly linking a photo of a D in SIOP to gleefully prove me wrong, but it was (if it ever happened) not the norm for the D model. Jennings, can you elaborate more on the use of tactical colors ? While I've seen this mentioned several times in modelling magazines, I've yet to see hard evidence of this. Diagrams in TO 1-1-4, most photographic evidence and recollections of people working on the D all point to the use of SAC greens on the uppersurfaces. Is there some bit that we've been missing ? Were the tactical colors used before the introduction of the SAC greens ? I'm not using the name SIOP as this is the one with white undersurfaces, the scheme with black undersurfaces is named SEA scheme in the TO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robvulcan Posted July 29, 2014 Author Share Posted July 29, 2014 I've marveled for years that no one has done a tall tail BUFF in 1/144. It's a very manageable size for the BUFF, and there are gobs if interesting variants and color schemes for them. An opportunity lost, and still waiting. I've recommended it to several manufacturers over the years, but no one has bitten on it (yet). Well I'm glad in not the only one. There are so many classic early variants that should get made and never do. While other types get every mk made including the very obscure. But surely a B-52 D would be hugely popular. I would have thought academy would have done it seeing as they I'd the tiddler one I'm making. Nice as it is its like a starter and now I want the main course Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panoz Posted July 29, 2014 Share Posted July 29, 2014 Jennings, can you elaborate more on the use of tactical colors ? While I've seen this mentioned several times in modelling magazines, I've yet to see hard evidence of this. Diagrams in TO 1-1-4, most photographic evidence and recollections of people working on the D all point to the use of SAC greens on the uppersurfaces. Is there some bit that we've been missing ? Were the tactical colors used before the introduction of the SAC greens ? I'm not using the name SIOP as this is the one with white undersurfaces, the scheme with black undersurfaces is named SEA scheme in the TO Are you happy that you made me and Jennings look like complete censored? That's the SIOP camo diagram in TO 1-1-4: And that's the SEA diagram from the same source: Needless to say you were absolutely correct. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jennings Heilig Posted July 29, 2014 Share Posted July 29, 2014 TO 1-1-4 is not authoritative. There's an SEA camo pattern for the F-106 and the B-58 that never happened. Since my fire I don't have all my (copious) files anymore, but I'm about 99.8% sure they actually used standard SEA colors on the Ds. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElectroSoldier Posted July 29, 2014 Share Posted July 29, 2014 Just because there is a technical order for it doesnt mean it happened.The D model never got a fresh coat of paint after Vietnam because it got one when it went there and it wore those colour until it retired in '82-'83. Jennings, you have seen actual proof that they didnt use standard SEA colours on the Ds!The proof is in this thread! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sloegin57 Posted July 29, 2014 Share Posted July 29, 2014 Hi all I am sure this has been mentioned before but I can't find the answer. I am Making a B-52d in the Green, Dark Green/olive, Tan and black undersides scheme. Can some kind soul tell me the correct call outs for Humbrol,Revell, Aqua, or Other please. Cheers Rob This may help Rob, from Fine Scale Modeller, September 1993 :- and a Big Black Buff I shot at Dyess a few years ago. Last three:- "666" The following month, FSM did the "Strategic" scheme. HTH Dennis 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giorgio N Posted July 29, 2014 Share Posted July 29, 2014 Jennings, I'm sure that the files on the B-52 were the least of your problems, having a fire destroy the house must be one big bad trouble ! In any case, I understand that the TO is not necessarily authoritative but we have more than the diagram in the T.O.1-1-4 here, we also have plenty of photographic evidence of B-52Ds in SAC greens uppersurfaces. The nice picture posted by Dennis for example is clearly of an aircraft with SAC greens and not the "tactical" colours (I know, tactical is not a correct term but I use this to indicate the usual FS 34079,34102,30219). As the use of tactical colors is often mentioned, I'm not at the moment saying that they were not used at all, but I'd like to know if they actually were or not. To date I've seen some colour pictures that may indicate this but no official document. ElectroSoldier, if the Ds never received a coat of paint after Vietnam then they served in Vietnam using SAC colors as there are many post-war pictures showing these colours clearly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robvulcan Posted July 29, 2014 Author Share Posted July 29, 2014 Thanks for the nice pics and reference material Dennis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElectroSoldier Posted July 29, 2014 Share Posted July 29, 2014 Well in that case I dont know The G models wear SIOP scheme (3 greens over white)The D models wear SEA Is it the same scheme?Maybe it is, after all the D paint was applied 5-10 years before the G model got hers... Or maybe its different, it looks different to me. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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