old thumper Posted December 1, 2015 Share Posted December 1, 2015 How about the Greco-Italian war 1940? Or Vichy French aircraft? I only ask because some people consider the Greco-Italian war not to be part of WW2 until the Germans and Bulgarians joined in. I am assuming neutral countries are not allowed and some may argue that Vichy France was neutral, at least until a certain time. For me both of the above are part of WW2, I'm only asking not looking for a debate. Why should the Greco-Italian war not be seen as part of WW2 ??? It was an attack from an Axis power against a country that was collaborating with the British war effort and that hosted British forces, to me sounds like a typical WW2 campaign... Like I have already said in my original post I am not looking for a debate, and also I consider the Greco Italian War to be part of WW2. Having said that there are those who believe that the Greco Italian War was not part of WW2 because Germany did not take part in it, these people consider the later German invasion to be a separate conflict known as the Battle of Greece. Their reasons for this argument are largely that it was hoped that the conflict would remain contained between Greece and Italy and not involve Germany, this is why the only British forces present on the Albanian front were the RAF as it was felt a British Army contingent would anger Germany. I think these people would describe the Greco Italian War as a war within a war. The rest of it I don't want to delve into because of the politics involved, and also because it would take up my time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Knight Posted December 1, 2015 Share Posted December 1, 2015 Basically, the way I see it; WW2 started with the invasion of Poland on 1/9/39 and ended with the formal surrender of Japan on 2/9/45. Between those dates; If a military action involved Axis forces attacking another country then its part of WW2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vppelt68 Posted December 1, 2015 Author Share Posted December 1, 2015 Don't try to tell a Finn that the Fenno-Russian Winter War was not part of the WW2 because there were no Germans... Or, because in that case a later Allied member was the aggressor attacking it's peace loving neighbors, which in fact forced one such nation to choose a position in a devastating war that had better been avoided. Rant over 😊. Dearly beloved, I welcome you all to the WW2 Mediterranean and North Africa Group Build! 99 votes - amazing support from group builders! Me and thepureness shall try our best hosting you when the time comes. Regards, V-P 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnonymousDFB1 Posted December 1, 2015 Share Posted December 1, 2015 not sure what I will build, have to see if I have any north African French aircraft. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robw_uk Posted December 1, 2015 Share Posted December 1, 2015 this is tempting... nothing in the stash (cos it contains 1 kit - and that is a USN '50s jet) - may get the Tamiya Quad tractor, limber & 25pdr tho... will have to see on dates vs the NATO/WASAW Pact... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giorgio N Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 Like I have already said in my original post I am not looking for a debate, and also I consider the Greco Italian War to be part of WW2. Having said that there are those who believe that the Greco Italian War was not part of WW2 because Germany did not take part in it, these people consider the later German invasion to be a separate conflict known as the Battle of Greece. Their reasons for this argument are largely that it was hoped that the conflict would remain contained between Greece and Italy and not involve Germany, this is why the only British forces present on the Albanian front were the RAF as it was felt a British Army contingent would anger Germany. I think these people would describe the Greco Italian War as a war within a war. The rest of it I don't want to delve into because of the politics involved, and also because it would take up my time. I never thought you wanted a debate, my personal answer was to those expressing the ideas you mention, ideas that to me sound very curious. Any military action by Italian forces after the declaration of war to France and the UK is part of WW2. In any case, glad to see this GB going through. I have many potential subjects in my stash as I've been slowly building a number of aircrafts involved in actions over Italy between 1943 and 1945 including Spitfires, P-51s and 47s, Bf.109s and of course Italian fighters. Not that I lack kits suitable for the North African campaign with more Spitfires and 109s and a couple P-40s... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vppelt68 Posted December 3, 2015 Author Share Posted December 3, 2015 (edited) We are banned - no, actually we are bannered, or is that a word at all? Couldn´t add any dates, though, yet... Regards, V-P EDIT: Because I added this to my signature too we have it here twice! Edited December 3, 2015 by vppelt68 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TPReggie Posted December 3, 2015 Share Posted December 3, 2015 Hey chaps, didn't put my name down for this as I was concentrating on the Eastern Front GB but did vote for this as well as I am itching to do something in desert colours. Is it too late to join in on this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thepureness Posted December 3, 2015 Share Posted December 3, 2015 Anyone is welcome Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vppelt68 Posted December 3, 2015 Author Share Posted December 3, 2015 Yes of course welcome all! With 99 voters I for sure will not update any lists anymore. When this GB eventually hits the Future GB:s section the chat will go on and people can report participating but the only thing that´ll count when we hit the Current GB:s is the build thread You start! Get prepared :-) Regards, V-P P.S. I will allow multiple builds in one thread. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old thumper Posted December 3, 2015 Share Posted December 3, 2015 I have lots of suitable stuff in my stash, but what I build will depend on how much time I have and what I fancy building at the time. It would be nice if the WW2 group builds try not to clash with single type group builds of WW2 aircraft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzy Posted December 3, 2015 Share Posted December 3, 2015 Anyone is welcome I'm in please, I've got a sexton and I've found a photo of one in Italy. Ozzy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vppelt68 Posted December 3, 2015 Author Share Posted December 3, 2015 I'm in please, I've got a sexton and I've found a photo of one in Italy. Ozzy Aren't Italians mostly Catholics 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robw_uk Posted December 4, 2015 Share Posted December 4, 2015 Tamiya Quad & 25pdr for me... now just need a date ;-) may look to get the Eduard PE for it as well... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxbat Posted December 4, 2015 Share Posted December 4, 2015 I have the Italeri 15cwt truck & Breda 20/65 in the stash, and desert schemes are my favourite for painting, so this looks like the proverbial no brainer for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prenton Posted December 4, 2015 Share Posted December 4, 2015 So med/north Africa has made it, guys you are now free to add to your stash something for the GB, unless you already have Yes, I have LOTS!! (all 1:72nd of course). Just to be certain....Vichy D520's in Syria or North Africa are allowed? (one of my many options, but I fancy the challenge of those red and yellow stripes in 72nd....) Philip Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vppelt68 Posted December 4, 2015 Author Share Posted December 4, 2015 Simply put: Yes they are allowed. Bring your stash and build it here 😊. Regards, V-P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrlx Posted December 4, 2015 Share Posted December 4, 2015 (edited) I have a Airfix's 1/72 Bf 109 E-7/Trop in desert camouflage. I also could build a Spitfire Mk IX in USAAF desert camouflage or a Bf 109 G-6 in desert camouflage, both 1/48 from Eduard. I'll decide when the dates of the GB approach but I certainly intend to participate. Cheers Jaime Edited December 4, 2015 by jrlx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vppelt68 Posted December 6, 2015 Author Share Posted December 6, 2015 So it's August 20 to December 18 next year. Starting two weeks after the Ju 88 STGB has ended - perfect 👌. Plenty of other GB:s to participate before them too! Please note, we now have a new, short name. Regards, V-P 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fatfingers Posted December 6, 2015 Share Posted December 6, 2015 Something along the lines of a Sherman from me I think. Could be British or American. Then again i could go Kiwi or maybe Polish..... ain't quite decided yet. Ohhhhh the agony! 😕 Regards Steve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vppelt68 Posted December 6, 2015 Author Share Posted December 6, 2015 No Fireflies in this GB though, I'm sorry to say 😢. 75mm, 76mm and a 105mm on the other hand will do fine 😊. Regards, V-P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thepureness Posted December 6, 2015 Share Posted December 6, 2015 How about something a little different. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vppelt68 Posted December 7, 2015 Author Share Posted December 7, 2015 Updated the Banner! V-P 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob85 Posted December 8, 2015 Share Posted December 8, 2015 (edited) Right so I think I have an idea of what i want to build.... I am thinking of three PR aircraft, beaufighter, hurricane and a spitfire I also want to try and build 3 malta birds....not sure what yet with that option I will carry on looking at that as there are SO many I want to build Rob Edited December 8, 2015 by rob85 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joss Posted December 8, 2015 Share Posted December 8, 2015 Hello I would like to put my name down for this. I was thinking of doing spitfire bp844 taking off of hms eagle as part of operation picket 1. Just wondering if it was within the GB requirements? Cheers Joss 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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