Fritag Posted August 3, 2014 Share Posted August 3, 2014 Bob Horton was doing avoid curve autorotations I know what you mean. I, however, have absolutely no idea what you mean and must henceforth resort to google again........ BTW. Super work Bill. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nigel Heath Posted August 3, 2014 Share Posted August 3, 2014 As in: Now I can't remember what happened this morning let alone last week. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perdu Posted August 3, 2014 Author Share Posted August 3, 2014 Well children as night falls and before we all get tucked snugly in our cots I thought I'd pop my latest teaser in I call this one oooer! Tomorrow a six inch file session beckons I reckon At least the bloody stuff is hardening this time night all 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hendie Posted August 4, 2014 Share Posted August 4, 2014 some really nice work going on there and even teensier than the Dauphin! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martian Posted August 4, 2014 Share Posted August 4, 2014 Just caught back up after a few days away, nice to see you beating this into submission. Martin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perdu Posted August 4, 2014 Author Share Posted August 4, 2014 Oh well A solitary candle seems unable to heat enough PETg to allow a crash moulding So the candle will be reserved for more fitting com-memorial (izzat a word?) purposes tonight and the canopy and screen moulding will be undertooken in the garage tomorrow a.m. I may revert to acetate sheet too 'cos PETg seems a bit rugged for getting thin enough in curves Like Steve, I googled the avoid curve. Wow I bain't a gooing thar' skipper. Scary stuff Tonight then I shall entertain myself making rudder pedals (are they rudder pedals in a helo I wonder) The etch stuff is very fine, lovely stuff and not remotely like the footrests on a Scout I suppose they are footrests too though Luckily Airfix have produced a pretty fair representation of the cyclic, so paint and a sliver or two of switchable stretched sprue will do for this. I intend building the additional avionics gubbinses that sit athwart the left side of the IP coaming which will almost certainly drive the SS11s. (thinks, one needs to pop out to see if there's a suitable transparent blue paint at my LMS for the tinted upper canopy section. I bet Tamiya have something suitable. He stocks paint from one of the "Battling Orc Hobby Painters" too, bound to find summat are I not? ) Next Draw and plot the missile carriers for if Mike cannot find his set. Where did I leave that nice drawing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scootsah1 Posted August 4, 2014 Share Posted August 4, 2014 Perdu, in helo-world rudder pedals are usually called Yaw Pedals. At least in Apache-Land !!! happy days Scoots 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perdu Posted August 4, 2014 Author Share Posted August 4, 2014 thanks Scoots I just knowed there'd be a word And of course having read Hellfire and Apache, as well as Chickenhawks I can only blame the onset of senility Thanks again bill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fritag Posted August 4, 2014 Share Posted August 4, 2014 Chickenhawk. Ahh now - there's a book worth reading and re-reading. Been a while; must dig my copy out and have another go...... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheshiretaurus Posted August 4, 2014 Share Posted August 4, 2014 (edited) Like Steve, I googled the avoid curve. Wow I bain't a gooing thar' skipper. Scary stuff After a bit of further googling I found the entire Test Pilot series on youtube, 6x 30 mins episodes not watched em all yet but has just taken me back to 1986 as spotty teenage irk when I last saw it. Lots of bolted on wing and whirly wing stuff, The avoid curve bit is here in part 2 at 22:22 Starts off in the classroom Edited August 5, 2014 by Cheshiretaurus 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ex-FAAWAFU Posted August 5, 2014 Share Posted August 5, 2014 Avoid curve - also known (for reasons that should be obvious) as the dead man's curve. Not a good place to visit. See also vortex ring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perdu Posted August 5, 2014 Author Share Posted August 5, 2014 I enjoyed that film Mark ta, your sneaky way of giving me a tad more on Scout cabin interior decor? Yes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scootsah1 Posted August 5, 2014 Share Posted August 5, 2014 Perdu, there's a Scout (XP907) sitting in our hangar at Wattisham. If you need any pics, let me know and I'll do what I can. Don't know (yet) how to upload pictures from my phone!!! but I'm sure my daughter will come to my aid. Happy days Scoots 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perdu Posted August 5, 2014 Author Share Posted August 5, 2014 (edited) For my next trick I need the help of someone from the audience Yes sir you will do nicely If you have any intimate knowlege of the methods of four point harness attachment in Her Majesty's Heloocopterers I cant see any suitable points on the seats I have been copying to attach a harness but on the floor is this... Behind each seat there is a recessed strengthened plate and a ring mounting Apologies for the truly crap home made arrows, but fortunately they seem to show clearly Would this be where the harnesses where attached? There are triangular flange plates rivetted to the sides of the seat pans at what looks like a decent spot to slap the side straps, Any ideas? The Airwaves etch straps are not long enough to go further down the seat than the middle howver the etch part has a very long tail that I could trim down to and stick on a ring for each unit. This would then be stuck down at a ring added from thin wire. I have made the new canopy from PETg in my non-dental vaccuum forming machine Lots of MIlliput then shaping the blob so it lets go of the moulded workpiece after vaccing it then trimming can begin, blimey its hard stuff to pare away gently, this first mould has too many blemishes but is being 'proof of concept' for the later, much nicer moulded piece the traditional gratuitous ugly one to show how small Airfix made this little beauty . And the rud....oops yaw pedals have been knocked out and placed on top of two white strips which represent the bristle covers over the pedal tracks, NOT GOOD to allow odds and ends to drop down them when you have mucky booted squaddies hopping in aand out so the bristle keep 'em clean Not pretty in megamagnification.. looks OK to the human eye thank gawd I really want to get on with the nitty gritty engine deck soon More, newer canopy trimming tonight Edited August 5, 2014 by perdu 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perdu Posted August 5, 2014 Author Share Posted August 5, 2014 Hi Scoots, that would be great How about seat harness fittings as per the above? Does she have the SS11 kit aboard, I could do with any cabin interior stuff for a missile ship He said hopefully I'm grateful for your offer, maybe anything you get could go in the Scout walkaround, the more picture data the better Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nigel Heath Posted August 5, 2014 Share Posted August 5, 2014 Apologies for the truly crap home made arrows, but fortunately they seem to show clearly It is good to see that your modelling skills massively exceed your computer drawing skills. Cheers, Nigel 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheshiretaurus Posted August 5, 2014 Share Posted August 5, 2014 Cant really help on the harness mounts but those points on the floor look more like securing points for tying down a loads carried on the rear floor. so might not really be for the seats. Good clean pull for that canopy, nicely done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perdu Posted August 7, 2014 Author Share Posted August 7, 2014 I think you are right about the points on the floor Mark Whilst looking through the Forum's walkaround for the Wopse I found their pictures of the seatback of the naval Officer's seats The mystery seems to be solved. Scout and Wasp have versions of the same seat without the naval baggage container on the seatback of Scout's chairs Both seats have the same stiffened box section with the same bolt holes and fixed studs showing for Scout The naval seat clearly has some kind of pre-tensioning assembly thatt marks the rearmost harness fixture I have begun making up a couple of silverish items to do for this task The side straps are attached to the seat pan sides, looks like a pre-tensioner gadget attched to the rear part by a black wire I'm not likely to model that, ta. Presently fitting windows, where's that bloomin Autowindshields guy when you need him? Or the crack fixing bird from many years ago Just need to track down the missile details, 'specially the roof sighting mechanism research task for the evening, best crack open a fresh can... . 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nigel Heath Posted August 7, 2014 Share Posted August 7, 2014 ... of primer. From Nigel the wholesome. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perdu Posted August 7, 2014 Author Share Posted August 7, 2014 Funnily enough Nigel no I perfer to relax under affluence of incahol Primer is not permit within a certain large radius of SHE who So tonight I have decided to relax by popping the pretensioner device and the etchy belts onto the seats Yesterday I popped some of the windows in, you wouldn't believe how well fitted these look under the mk 1 part b eyeball The plan is to fit these which are slightly oversize then mask off the right size and shape and top off with Mr Surfacer 500, the masking can then stay aboard until after the top coats go on The cracked windscreen frame has been 'sorted' tonight after I saw how horrid it looks The rivets, sadly 'acos I am quite historically attached to them will be removed from the solidly glued together fuselage soon Anyway the harnesses, some sources say dark green nylon others say black Beggaritall I won't be seeing much in there, a risk or hope that the straps might show dictates Dark Green so that is what we get .The bare white patches on the tensioners has now been touched in, sadly PB is so unuser friendly I can't put my hands on the decent picture I uploaded So here is my take on the Westland built seat harnesses . These are going onto the cockpit floor next thing, along with seat adjusters and the cyclic stick Should be building a helicopter again soon, I can't wait b 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nigel Heath Posted August 7, 2014 Share Posted August 7, 2014 incahol I assume this is a reference to a nice, relaxing holiday in South America. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perdu Posted August 7, 2014 Author Share Posted August 7, 2014 now, wouldn't that be luvverley 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheshiretaurus Posted August 7, 2014 Share Posted August 7, 2014 I perfer to relax under affluence of incahol Here here, Brit Modeller and beer, the perfect combination. Seats look excellent Bill 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fritag Posted August 8, 2014 Share Posted August 8, 2014 you wouldn't believe how well fitted these look under the mk 1 part b eyeball b Mk1 part b eyeballs? What was wrong with the Mk1 part a eyeballs? How come you've got an upgrade? BTW them seats look the very business at several times life size - must be truly impressive in the flesh (well plastic/metal/indian rubber - you know what I mean....) Here here, Brit Modeller and beer, the perfect combination. Seats look excellent Bill Like that. Suggested improvements would be (i) an Apple MacBook Air and (ii) a bottle of Black Sheep bitter. Now you're talking......... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheshiretaurus Posted August 8, 2014 Share Posted August 8, 2014 Can't complain it were free. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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