milktrip Posted July 19, 2014 Share Posted July 19, 2014 ^ good tip Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fritag Posted July 19, 2014 Share Posted July 19, 2014 Ta Bill - sounds like a plan...... (think crackly Quality Street type wrapper,) Quality street tho'? Sounds as 1980's as Black Forest Gateau......... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perdu Posted July 19, 2014 Author Share Posted July 19, 2014 Well lad, your model my choice of crinkly wrappers Other crinkly wrappers may be available I couldn't possibly comment he he 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perdu Posted July 19, 2014 Author Share Posted July 19, 2014 photo-etch is there a preferred direction to spit and curse? Not enjoying attempting to attach a thin spindly leg arrangement to a beautiful pierced metal seat back rest Slaters rod may be preferred over here where I am Mark (Cheshiretaurus) posted a link to a supplier of PETg 0.5mm I used H******* Games to order on Wednesday night Thursday morning-ish Came this morning (Saturday ... for archive purposes) and it works brilliantly You saw the moulded window ^^^^^^^ up there a bit with a deep blue cast no doubt Well the port blown window came out great in clear film but I had fears of having to use the bluish stuff Fortunately the Postman's knock today meant I could press on and get used to the new stuff A few lost ones first though and then hurrah, both windows now attached with the Formula 560 and I can press on a view from the side Ahead full on I feel a bit ambivalent about the etch stuff Brilliant modelling at the factory but it's making me feel useless as I try to hold fragile looking bits still enough for the stuporgoo to hold and grip As you saw I used a dollop of modelling clay to hold the seat and frame in proximity, which worked a bit Judgement reserved until I get some grey paint on it all Preparing to trim the fin to add the new part next maybe tonight, quien sabe? 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hockeyboy76 Posted July 19, 2014 Share Posted July 19, 2014 Looking good. As others have said I will be borrowing some of your ideas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheshiretaurus Posted July 19, 2014 Share Posted July 19, 2014 photo-etch is there a preferred direction to spit and curse? Not enjoying attempting to attach a thin spindly leg arrangement to a beautiful pierced metal seat back rest Slaters rod may be preferred over here where I am Just perseverance and miniscule amounts of CA Bill. I find if a PE part doesnt stick on the first attempt and the CA starts to set, subsequent attempts will not stick and only creates an accumulation of CA. If its just 2 parts at that stage I soak the parts in acetone to remove the CA, Have a cup of tea and try again, if its several parts and the rest of the assembly has gone together ok, I clean off the CA with an acetone soaked cotton bud, have a cup of tea and try again. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perdu Posted July 19, 2014 Author Share Posted July 19, 2014 I wonder what acetone substitute would be safe to use around my missus "Have you been using any chemicals, paints or otherwise subscribed materials in pursuance of your nefarious pastime?" Aint much fun round 'ere some days Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheshiretaurus Posted July 19, 2014 Share Posted July 19, 2014 Not aware of anything else that removes CA, it doesn't take long to remove though so could be done whilst stood outside, Its also good for removing the etch resist (the blue stuff) from your PE 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miggers Posted July 19, 2014 Share Posted July 19, 2014 Just for you scallywags that want to see one,here's the 1/72nd Aeroclub Skeeter that Milktrip Aaron and I did a nice trade arragement for him to get his hands on it. Note the 50p piece: Mahoooosive innit. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perdu Posted July 19, 2014 Author Share Posted July 19, 2014 Fifty pence! You got it for fifty pence, what a great deal, best of the century Must start locating plans for mine, bound to be easier than finding another Aeroclub at a price I can afford (OK I guess it wasn't REALLLLY fifty pence was it?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martian Posted July 20, 2014 Share Posted July 20, 2014 More good work, I suspect this is going to end up as being the "go to" build for those of us having a Scout to do. Martin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miggers Posted July 20, 2014 Share Posted July 20, 2014 (edited) Fifty pence! You got it for fifty pence, what a great deal, best of the century Must start locating plans for mine, bound to be easier than finding another Aeroclub at a price I can afford (OK I guess it wasn't REALLLLY fifty pence was it?) Nope. I originally said £150 and Aaron fell off his bike laughing . So then I said I was kidding and said I'd swap it for an Italeri Wessex,Aaron tried to palm me off with a 1/48th one and I said no,a 1/72nd one. So off he went a nabbed a Falklands anniversary set wiv a Sea 'Arrier in it too. Done deal,Aaron got teeeny weeny Skeeter,I got Wessex and SHar. Happy days all round . Edited September 27, 2014 by Miggers 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perdu Posted July 20, 2014 Author Share Posted July 20, 2014 Some days you get THE DEAL I did at Three Quid a bag for my Scout And with that I've given up with that nonsensical etch framework purporting to be made of tubing I have some 0.020" Evergreen rod and I'm forming it around the original Airfix kit seat backrest The exact shape of the etch seat panels and blatantly round in section number one is setting under tension on my board at the moment I'll try to get a picture later Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perdu Posted July 20, 2014 Author Share Posted July 20, 2014 OK then Pictures dutifully done folks First the basic unit from Airwaves, unwanted Waspy bits removed From checking various walkarounds it is obvious that Wasps had deeper seatback casings which needed removal for the Scout These have to be for survival packs, dinghys and suchlike no doubt Scout seats look to be the same basic framing with just a bare backplate and a black(?) backrest cushion The Airwaves kit has spindly framework designed to look like the tubing structure that frames the seats On a good Wednesday with a circular wind pattern hitting us from the Azores maybe I'm certainly NOT skilled enough to be able to make use of it so I have built a frame from Evergreen 0.020" rodding Seen here with the etch frame I gave up on After a modicum of basic working, here's a seat ready for detailing The flat back of the etch seat needs its four holes to be dished towards the back of the 'copter. I may need to work on that a bit more DUE TO A CONTINUITY ERROR AFTER LOSING PHOTOBUCKETOFJUNK I AM REPLACING ANY PICTURES I CAN FIND IN SEQUENCE, I THINK IT'S INEVITABLE THAT SOME PHOTOS HAVE DISAPPEARED, SORRY FOLKS Martin, it's very kind of you to say that. Much too flattering by far but I'll bask in the glow of that for a day or two no doubt 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shark 64 Posted July 20, 2014 Share Posted July 20, 2014 so small yet so good. I love this help. I would give anything to have this in 1/35 scale. Watching your build. such a great subject. Oliver Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fritag Posted July 21, 2014 Share Posted July 21, 2014 That seat looks so much better to my eyes now. PS - You've definitely caught the public's interest and imagination with this thread Bill. No pressure then Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milktrip Posted July 21, 2014 Share Posted July 21, 2014 When you see the prices those Skeeter kits go for on ebay I'd say I got a pretty good deal Great work on the bubble windows Bill. And I like what you've done with the seats. I've used that airwaves etch set before. It was one of my first experiences with etched metal after market stuff and I found it quite friendly for a novice albeit very fiddly. That was without all the fancy etch bending tools I have since purchased - I'm currently using Eduard's etch set for the Bell 47 - even with all the fancy tools I've found it a real challenge and it has tested my patience some what which is the polite way of saying its an absolute pain in the... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nigel Heath Posted July 21, 2014 Share Posted July 21, 2014 Good work on replacing the 2D etch with proper 3D round section stuff. A great improvement me thinks. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perdu Posted July 21, 2014 Author Share Posted July 21, 2014 I dont think I will be loooking for the etch set for my Bell 47 Aaron I know it will look a little finer but there will be too many angles from which the round tubes will not look round enough for me I will enjoy seeing how you tackle it I have started building the second seat How weird is this? Same framework but sits about six or more inches closer to the deck so same but different Also started planning the framework behind the gauges slightly thinner materials to find for an upright dash support tube Stretch sprue I 'xpect Pics tomorrow I hope Thank you guys for joining in, I'm glad people find it interesting 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keefr22 Posted July 24, 2014 Share Posted July 24, 2014 Hi Bill, I just wandered in after Mr. Fritag mentioned something about a Scout build going on over here in his JP thread - and glad I'm here as there's some real neat stuff going on already. So catching up - love the finish on the exhaust, those clothes peg moulds are a great idea (will have to go shopping for some wooden ones, as all SWMBO's are plastic!) and the resulting doors look fantastic (& good to see that such good mouldings can still be achieved without one of them there fancy dentists machines!) and finally I'm with Nigel, I think your replacement round placcie seat frames look much better than that weedy flat p.e.stuff! So, I think that's me caught up, looking forward to more... keith Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perdu Posted July 25, 2014 Author Share Posted July 25, 2014 Hi Keith, welcome aboard mate Thank you all for your encouragement, in the light of which I did build rodding onto the etch seat bodies Here about ten times bigger than real life is how they are tonight All of the interior of Scout is the same old light grey, I'm using Modelair 71050 Gris Claro (? Me no spikka de lingo?) Looks purty well like the paint on the ones in the BM walkaround so it'll do for me Here goes The collected stupor goo on the observers chair will vanish once the seat cushions are in place I have dusted the seats with more artists pastels, so the dust can change the hue of the seats and 'lift' them out of the general samenessness I've been using this small square of sandpaper for years now, rub the chalk of choice on the square then lift it and dust it lightly on the model with my Cotman number four sable brush the colours you can see were also used on the jetpipes seeing the right colour emerge is a real part of the pleasure of modelmaking, when the base colour might frighten the horses |||||| here's the two seats in for a place fitting I will be able to fit the very thin collective betwixt seat Not quite as sure about the observer's bespoke seating Tonight I have been building but not yet photographing the inner floor and dashboard gauge backs and the stiffening rod that keeps it all safely aloft finally, the bubble masked off for the usual stuff On the morrow kind gentlefolks, 'til then have a fine night 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martian Posted July 25, 2014 Share Posted July 25, 2014 Good progress! Martin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
feifeitim Posted July 25, 2014 Share Posted July 25, 2014 Great work on this Bill - love those seats! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spookytooth Posted July 25, 2014 Share Posted July 25, 2014 Looking good Perdu. I can just about remember building this kit 40 old years ago, it ended up more glue than plastic. Simon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
louiex2 Posted July 25, 2014 Share Posted July 25, 2014 Just came across the thread- nice work Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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