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1/72 - Sukhoi Su-17 & Su-17M "Fitter-B/-C" by Modelsvit - released - Su-17/-22M-4 in 2024


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Anyone know what these are like accuracy wise?
This does look good, does anyone know what sort of quality their kits are? Never seen one in the 'plastic' before

They are generally very accurate, much like Amodel. OK not Tamiya/Hasegawa quality but very buildable and to me as a huge fan of Soviet hardware much more interesting subject matter. I've built or am building a few now, Bartini VVA 14, E-150, I-3U and they are fairly typical of what you'd expect from a short run company, (think MPM, SH). Highly recommended.

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I wonder if those are Afghanistan War Fitters? It looks like it from the box art. More Soviet model aeroplanes is always a good thing!

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Jason

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With this model is possible assemble Peruvean version?

I'm afraid you can't without extensive work:

- Su-22: http://www.airliners.net/photo/Peru---Air/Sukhoi-Su-22/1233229/L/

- Su-17M: http://www.airliners.net/photo/Russia---Air/Sukhoi-Su-17M/1317822/L/

The undernose bulge is easy enough to scratchbuild but the difficult part is the rear fuselage, fin and perhaps stabs. The versions equipped with Tumanski engine (like the Su-22) have a different rear fuselage from Lyulka equipped versions.

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But, but.....They all look exactly the same to me! :shutup:

I keep checking this thread for the type that I think that I want (still don't completely know why I want it), but I don't think I'd recognise it if I actually saw it! :whistle:

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But, but.....They all look exactly the same to me! :shutup:

I keep checking this thread for the type that I think that I want (still don't completely know why I want it), but I don't think I'd recognise it if I actually saw it! :whistle:

Because Sukhoi made them like LEGO bricks - whole family of Fitters (Su-7, 17, "19", 20 and 22), Fishpots (Su-9 and 11) and Flagons (Su-15 and "21") uses just four types of wing, four types of propulsion (hidden in three types of rear fuselage), three vertical fins, two horizontal tails, and (excluding minor shape and equipment variations) five or six front fuselage types.

Leaving Fishpots and Flagons away (as well as the fixed-wing Fitter A) you have two basic generations of swing-wing Fitters and each of them exists with slimmer (Lyulka-engined) and fatter (Tumansky-engined) rear fuselage.

First generation uses the Su-7U (longer than basic Su-7/Su-9) fuselage and original Su-7/9/11 fin with rounded leading edge top. On the ground the fuselage is horizontal like in the Su-7/9/11 as the undercarriage remained unchanged from the fixed-wing variants. 994 were built in 1967-78.

The sub-types include: 1967 Su-7IG Fitter B (S-22I, AL-7F), 1969 Su-17 Fitter B (S-32, AL-7F), 1970 Su-17K Fitter B (S-32K, AL-7F), 1972 Su-17M Fitter C (S-32M, AL-21F), 1973 Su-20 Fitter C (S-32MK, AL-21F), 1974 Su-17M2 Fitter D (S-42, AL-21F), and 1977 Su-22 Fitter F (S-32M2K, R-29B).

Most of the second generation variants feature higher fin with sharp edges, but the key difference is visible on the ground - the main u/c is lower, the front one is higher and whole forward fuselage (with wide canopy and fat dorsal spine) is heavily drooped providing better cockpit view. 1873 were built between 1976 and 1990.

The sub-types with original (i.e. rounded) fin include: 1976 Su-17UM Fitter E (S-52U, AL-21F) and 1976 Su-22U Fitter E (S-52UK, R-29B).

Tall-tailed sub-types are: 1976 Su-17M3 Fitter H (S-52, AL-21F), 1978 Su-22M Fitter J (S-52K, R-29B), 1978 Su-22UM Fitter G (S-52UMK, R-29B), 1978 Su-17UM3 Fitter G (S-52UM3, AL-21F), 1979 Su-22UM3K Fitter G (S-52UM3, AL-21F), 1981 Su-17M4 Fitter K (S-54, AL-21F), 1982 Su-22M3 Fitter J (S-52MK, R-29B), 1983 Su-22UM3 Fitter G (S-52UM3K, R-29B), and 1984 Su-22M4 Fitter K (S-54K, AL-21F).

Designation system is very complex, as Su-17 (droop-nosed variants were briefly called Su-19) applies to all variants built for VVS with Su-17K, Su-20 and Su-22 left for the export customers. Moreover there's a factory system (S-22, 32, 42, 52, 54) using the same letter abbreviations for different aircraft, e.g. Su-22UM3 is S-52UM3K while Su-22UM3K is S-52UM3 ! Totally confusing :)

Cheers

Michael

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