Homebee Posted July 11, 2014 Share Posted July 11, 2014 (edited) After the Su-22IG (http://www.britmodeller.com/forums/index.php?/topic/234963366-172-sukhoi-su-22i-su-7ig-su-7bm-with-variable-geometry-wings-by-modelsvit-released/?hl=sukhoi), the new Modelsvit's 1/72nd model kit is a Sukhoi Su-17M "Fitter-C" - ref.72011. Pics and Russian in-box review here: http://scalemodels.ru/articles/7548-obzor-modelsvt-1-72-su-17m.html Soon here: http://hobbyterra.com/product/sukhoi-su-17m-soviet-fighter-bomber-1-72-model-kit-modelsvit-72011.html V.P. Edited December 16, 2023 by Homebee 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert Posted July 11, 2014 Share Posted July 11, 2014 Looks very nice. Have to have one or two. Robert Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kampartiger Posted July 11, 2014 Share Posted July 11, 2014 Well,it's about time we have an accurate sukhoi fitter in the market.It was a mighty long wait,thankfully it's here now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jabba Posted July 11, 2014 Share Posted July 11, 2014 Well,it's about time we have an accurate sukhoi fitter in the market.It was a mighty long wait,thankfully it's here now. Could not agree more, and hopefully there are other different variants of "Fitters" to come. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cvrle Posted July 11, 2014 Share Posted July 11, 2014 Great! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintsPhil Posted July 11, 2014 Share Posted July 11, 2014 This does look good, does anyone know what sort of quality their kits are? Never seen one in the 'plastic' before Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cvrle Posted July 11, 2014 Share Posted July 11, 2014 BTW, what's your recommended source for their kits? Cheers! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
azzaob Posted July 11, 2014 Share Posted July 11, 2014 O for awesome, bring on the Su-22s I have all of the Modelsvit Su-7 series they started producing over the last few years and IMHO they are quite a few steps up from say Amodel kits which the lay-out of the sprues remind me of. Obviously not a 100% simple click and connect but nice nevertheless. Great news Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homebee Posted July 28, 2014 Author Share Posted July 28, 2014 On pre-order at ModelsUA: http://modelsua.com/Su-17M-Fitter-C-Sukhoi-1-72-Modelsvit-72011.html release expected August 5th, 2014. V.P. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laurent Posted July 29, 2014 Share Posted July 29, 2014 Su-17M2 and later please ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albeback52 Posted July 29, 2014 Share Posted July 29, 2014 1/48 PLEASE!!! Allan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintsPhil Posted July 29, 2014 Share Posted July 29, 2014 (edited) I've have a feeling it won't be that long before trumpeter give us 1/48 SU-7 and 17 given they've announced the 9 and 11... That's not based on any rumours just a feeling/hope.... In the mean time I may try one of these.... Edited July 29, 2014 by SaintsPhil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert Posted July 29, 2014 Share Posted July 29, 2014 Mr Song was showing a 1/48 Su-17/22 some years ago http://www.britmodeller.com/forums/index.php?/topic/234934203-148-su-22m4-from-kittyhawk/ Robert Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albeback52 Posted July 30, 2014 Share Posted July 30, 2014 Long overdue anyway - regardless of scale!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homebee Posted August 7, 2014 Author Share Posted August 7, 2014 (edited) German in-box review with pics: http://www.modellversium.de/kit/artikel.php?id=10047 V.P. Edited August 28, 2014 by Homebee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albeback52 Posted August 7, 2014 Share Posted August 7, 2014 Could not agree more, and hopefully there are other different variants of "Fitters" to come. Check out the shop website - 4 different variants of the SU-7 available and, a different version of the SU-22. Why is pay day 3 weeks away ??? Allan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homebee Posted February 8, 2015 Author Share Posted February 8, 2015 (edited) A Russian article in Scalemodels.ru: http://scalemodels.ru/articles/8134-ModelSvit-1-72-su-17m.html V.P. Edited February 8, 2015 by Homebee 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlie_c67 Posted February 9, 2015 Share Posted February 9, 2015 Anyone know what these are like accuracy wise? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Claudio Moura Posted April 9, 2015 Share Posted April 9, 2015 Dear Sirs, is possibe to assemble the Peruvian version with this kit? I, particulary, think that no.... NOTE: Peruvian Air Force had Su-22 and Su-17 versions! Thanks for all. Claudio Moura Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laurent Posted April 9, 2015 Share Posted April 9, 2015 (edited) is possibe to assemble the Peruvian version with this kit? I, particulary, think that no.... NOTE: Peruvian Air Force had Su-22 and Su-17 versions! I'm surprised that Peru would have had Su-17s. Su-17 is the domestic (Soviet) designation while Su-22 (and Su-20) is the export designation. I believe that the conversion work would be extensive. - modify the rear fuselage which is more bulged because the engine is different; because of this the fin must be modified too - add the under nose Doppler radar bulge Edited April 9, 2015 by Laurent 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giorgio N Posted April 9, 2015 Share Posted April 9, 2015 Claudio, my understanding is that Peru only used Su-22 variants with the R-29 engine, not Su-17s. The variants used were two: the original Su-22 was the equivalent (at least in terms of visual differences) of the Soviet Su-17M2 but with a different engine requiring a different rear fuselage and with a different fin-fuselage fairing (more angular on the 22) Later the Su-22M was received, that is the equivalent of the soviet Su-17M3. Again, this has the different rear fuselage etc. The Su-22 and Su-22M differ in the front fuselage that is angled downward in the M. The kit shown above is a Su-17M, that differs from both the M2 and M3 in the front fuselage, so this is not a good base even if the modifications to the rear fuselage are introduced. If you know something about the presence of true Su-17s in Peruvian service, I'd sure like to know more ! If you know what versions these were, I can advice on the kit to use. For a Su-22 at the moment the options are very limited as no kit that I know of correctly represents the rear fuselage of this type, although the Pantera/Mastercraft kits are the closest 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Claudio Moura Posted April 9, 2015 Share Posted April 9, 2015 I'm surprised that Peru would have had Su-17s. Su-17 is the domestic (Soviet) designation while Su-22 (and Su-20) is the export designation. I believe that the conversion work would be extensive. - modify the rear fuselage which is more bulged because the engine is different; because of this the fin must be modified too - add the under nose Doppler radar bulge Dear Laureant, thanks for your explanation! Maybe I could make some confusion with the designations because I have not certain if in Peru the Su-20 was called Su-17 too... I myself didn´t the differences of these versions until recently.... Regards, Claudio Moura Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Claudio Moura Posted April 10, 2015 Share Posted April 10, 2015 Claudio, my understanding is that Peru only used Su-22 variants with the R-29 engine, not Su-17s. The variants used were two: the original Su-22 was the equivalent (at least in terms of visual differences) of the Soviet Su-17M2 but with a different engine requiring a different rear fuselage and with a different fin-fuselage fairing (more angular on the 22) Later the Su-22M was received, that is the equivalent of the soviet Su-17M3. Again, this has the different rear fuselage etc. The Su-22 and Su-22M differ in the front fuselage that is angled downward in the M. The kit shown above is a Su-17M, that differs from both the M2 and M3 in the front fuselage, so this is not a good base even if the modifications to the rear fuselage are introduced. If you know something about the presence of true Su-17s in Peruvian service, I'd sure like to know more ! If you know what versions these were, I can advice on the kit to use. For a Su-22 at the moment the options are very limited as no kit that I know of correctly represents the rear fuselage of this type, although the Pantera/Mastercraft kits are the closest Dear Giorgio, my confuse is because the FAP called all your Sukhois like Su-22!! But the difference in the canopies is the most visible.... and, I believe, that your explanation with Su-22 and Su-22M designations is the point! MAYBE the FAP called Su-22 was the short canopy (like Su-17/20) and the Su-22M was large canopy (like Soviet Su-22M3 canopy). For this my mistake in refer the designations! http://s94.photobucket.com/user/Halcon_24/media/SU-22%20de%20la%20FAP/SU-22yarmamento3.jpg.html http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y221/kkkarmapolice/CIX%2007/Su-22M2_011_FAP_ECardenas_CIX07.jpg http://cdn-www.airliners.net/aviation-photos/photos/7/9/9/1650997.jpg http://geocities.ws/aviacionperucenepa/AeronavesPeru/imagenes/su2223.jpg Well, so I have to wait the Modelsvit release the Su-22M Family... correct? Thanks for your help! Regards, Claudio Moura Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laurent Posted April 10, 2015 Share Posted April 10, 2015 Well, so I have to wait the Modelsvit release the Su-22M Family... correct? Well there's always... Poor detailing, expected problematic fit (I've built their Su-17... I had to fill the gaps with melted plastic), hybrid Tumansky/Lyulka rear fuselage but the Doppler bulge is provided. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giorgio N Posted April 10, 2015 Share Posted April 10, 2015 Claudio yes, correct, in any case we have to wait for a proper Su-22. The rear fuselage of most Su-22 is different because of the different engine. I say most because the Su-22M4 has the same engine of the Su-17M4, but Peru never used this variant so I'm not to go into this one. The cockpit and front fuselage is indeed different between Su-22 and Su-22M. The FAP correctly used these designation, they are the same used by the Soviets (at least according to most sources). I've also seen the designation Su-22A for the first version, not sure if it was locally used in Peru or is only a western designation never really used by anyone. To recap: Su-22: same front fuselage of the Soviet Su-17M2. This is longer than the original Su-17/Su-20 (by 200 mm). Has a fairing under the intake for a Doppler ground speed system (that makes the version easy to recognise). The dorsal spine is slim, same as the original Su-17. Su-22M: same front fuselage of the Soviet Su-17M3. This has a wider canopy and the area before the canopy is angled downward. There's no fairing under the intake. The dorsal spine is fatter where it meets the canopy. All variants have the rear fuselage typical of the R29 engined variants, that is different from the Su-17. And all variants have a very angular spine/tailfin fillet while the Su-17s have a smoother transition. Personally I consider the Su-22M one of the most interesting variants of this aircraft, it's a pity that there's no easy to build accurate OOB kit of this variant. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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