JackG Posted February 6, 2017 Share Posted February 6, 2017 I have seen a photo of zinc chromate being applied with paint brush at a factory. Could be certain parts of the assembly were done that way, while others had access to a spray gun, and when they came together you get the resulting mishmash of quality? regards, Jack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenshirt Posted February 6, 2017 Share Posted February 6, 2017 It almost looks like a temporary rubberized coating, applied to ensure the interior green coating isn't chipped during the assembly process. The wing center section box being a key structural piece and likely constructed of both painted and unpainted elements, then given a final coating of interior green paint, then a protective coating as it moves along. Possibly sat idle while the rest of the components arrived for needed assembly as a whole aircraft? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Millman Posted February 6, 2017 Share Posted February 6, 2017 There was no MAP/RAF paint called interior green, or even Interior Green. I realise the desire to paint all RAF aircraft in US colours is strong here but . . . . . . it was Grey Green also described as "cockpit grey green" in some official documents, in September 1942 a No.2 synthetic enamel to DTD 206A for spray painting only, stores reference 33B/216. Nick 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mhaselden Posted February 6, 2017 Share Posted February 6, 2017 Mea culpa. I couldn't remember the specific colour name. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magpie22 Posted February 7, 2017 Share Posted February 7, 2017 On 04/02/2017 at 11:46 PM, StevSmar said: Not sure where I found this while trolling, but it is an interesting photo in that it shows the ever elusive Tac R in the distance. If you have a nice close up photo of the Tac R camera installation that would be great, it seems like images showing this are as rare as hen's teeth: Might not be the close ups you are looking for but these two may be of some help. Both taken in the desert. Peter M 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mhaselden Posted February 7, 2017 Share Posted February 7, 2017 Thanks for those last 2 pics, Peter. Very much appreciated. Is it me or does the bottom pic (Z4038) appear to show a short stub antenna mast? It certainly appears to be so, which is odd for a metal-winged Hurricane. I don't think it's an artifact on the image but I could be mistaken. Cheers, Mark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Swindell Posted February 7, 2017 Share Posted February 7, 2017 16 minutes ago, mhaselden said: Is it me or does the bottom pic (Z4038) appear to show a short stub antenna mast? It's you Mark, check the front top edge of the sliding canopy, the image has been cropped. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mhaselden Posted February 7, 2017 Share Posted February 7, 2017 Hi Dave, Yeah, I looked at that but I wondered if that wasn't just halation coupled with some obvious slight blurring of the image in the top right and top left corners. Also, if the image is cropped, it isn't level across the entire photo because the "cut off" part of the sliding canopy is actually lower than the upper limit of the antenna mast. Finally there's no obvious break in the image that would indicate a crop due to scanning or developing factors - the sky looks to be a consistent shade all along the top of the image. Cheers, Mark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magpie22 Posted February 8, 2017 Share Posted February 8, 2017 G'day Mark, Those were scans from 35mm copy negs. I've checked back to the neg and Dave is correct, the print is cropped, not the mast. If you increase the contrast on the print, you can just make out the white border of the photo. When I scanned the neg, I rotated the image slightly - that is why the crop is not // to the top of the pic. Cheers, Peter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mhaselden Posted February 8, 2017 Share Posted February 8, 2017 Thanks Peter. Appreciate the response. I wasn't sure, hence my question. Standard antenna mast it is, then. Cheers, Mark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Swindell Posted February 8, 2017 Share Posted February 8, 2017 Peter, do you know if the two photo's are of the same airframe? They have the look of being the same time/location Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magpie22 Posted February 8, 2017 Share Posted February 8, 2017 33 minutes ago, Dave Swindell said: Peter, do you know if the two photo's are of the same airframe? They have the look of being the same time/location They are part of several taken at the same time. I don't think those two are of the same airframe - look at the tail wheel position. The other shots were of standard TacR Hurris without the camera pod. I don't even know the location as they came form the photographers widow and were unlabelled. All I know is that he served in the Middle East with No. 451 Sqn RAAF and on Malta with a RAF unit. Sorry I can't help further. Peter M 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wm Blecky Posted February 12, 2017 Share Posted February 12, 2017 Has anyone picked up the Scale Resins 1/72 Hurricane wheel set? (sorry if I missed this in the post, 25 pages, and I wouldn't be surprised). I ask as I am curious about the main wheels as well as the 2 different tail wheel types: I've not come across treaded wheels for the Hurricane before. I have not found any other aftermarket sets, or kits for that matter, that have come with such a set. The tail wheels also look to be different from what I have in the kits my collection (Hasegawa and new Airfix Mk.I). Any insight would be appreciated. Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troy Smith Posted February 13, 2017 Share Posted February 13, 2017 I have only seen treaded tyres on a warbirds where they are common, though Trumpeter have them in their 1/24th kit (one of the few glitches in that kit) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magpie22 Posted February 13, 2017 Share Posted February 13, 2017 At least one wartime Hurri had treaded tyres. V7476 of Central Flying School at RAAF Point Cook, on a press day, 25 March 1945. Possibly non-standard, as this was the only example that the RAAF had, and spares were not readily available. Maybe you can use your resin wheels for a model of that A/C. Peter M 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MilneBay Posted February 13, 2017 Share Posted February 13, 2017 Lovely pic of the RAAF Hurricane and the beat up by the P40. Are the patches over the gun ports on the Hurricane silver doped fabric or thin aluminium? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Work In Progress Posted February 13, 2017 Share Posted February 13, 2017 Looks like recently added metal to me, denoting the removal of the guns, which is not entirely unexpected in a non-combatant role. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magpie22 Posted February 13, 2017 Share Posted February 13, 2017 5 hours ago, MilneBay said: Lovely pic of the RAAF Hurricane and the beat up by the P40. Are the patches over the gun ports on the Hurricane silver doped fabric or thin aluminium? 5 hours ago, Work In Progress said: Looks like recently added metal to me, denoting the removal of the guns, which is not entirely unexpected in a non-combatant role. Silver doped fabric in my opinion. Later shots of the A/C on the dump clearly show the cannon ports - unlikely if they had been sheeted over with metal. Peter M 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham Boak Posted February 13, 2017 Share Posted February 13, 2017 Supporting that, looking back at the top picture you can see the four circles of the gunports. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wm Blecky Posted February 13, 2017 Share Posted February 13, 2017 13 hours ago, Magpie22 said: At least one wartime Hurri had treaded tyres. V7476 of Central Flying School at RAAF Point Cook, on a press day, 25 March 1945. Possibly non-standard, as this was the only example that the RAAF had, and spares were not readily available. Maybe you can use your resin wheels for a model of that A/C. Peter M Thank you Peter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troy Smith Posted February 14, 2017 Share Posted February 14, 2017 the extensive stencilling (?) on the prop blades is also an unusual feature, is any of it readable on the original print? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magpie22 Posted February 14, 2017 Share Posted February 14, 2017 9 hours ago, Graham Boak said: Supporting that, looking back at the top picture you can see the four circles of the gunports. Agreed Graham. I noted that, but didn't want to get into an argument about distortion of very thin metal near stagnation point. Thought the shot I posted was positive proof. Peter M Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magpie22 Posted February 14, 2017 Share Posted February 14, 2017 3 hours ago, Troy Smith said: the extensive stencilling (?) on the prop blades is also an unusual feature, is any of it readable on the original print? I can't read it. Attached is another shot which is a bit clearer. The writing was applied when the prop was overhauled in Aus. Note the 'nick' in the trailing edge where some damage has been ground out. (Acceptable as long as the prop is structurally OK and it is re-balanced). This photo, (and the others I posted), are available on the AWM site - VIC 0175 and around there, if you want to try and do some work with Photoshop. Peter M 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevehnz Posted February 14, 2017 Share Posted February 14, 2017 Did they have sticky aluminium tape back then? Those gun ports look as though they could be cover by something like that, maybe a bit more metallic than doped cloth to my eye. Steve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackG Posted February 14, 2017 Share Posted February 14, 2017 1 hour ago, stevehnz said: Did they have sticky aluminium tape back then? Those gun ports look as though they could be cover by something like that, maybe a bit more metallic than doped cloth to my eye. Steve. There was the US military duck tape, but was issued only in green, but switched to silver after the war and become known as duct tape ... http://www.todayifoundout.com/index.php/2010/02/duct-tape-was-originally-named-duck-tape-and-came-in-green-not-silver/ regards, Jack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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