Devilfish Posted June 23, 2014 Share Posted June 23, 2014 (edited) On Sept 27th it will be the 50th anniversary of the first flight of the TSR2. To mark the occaision, Newark Air Museum will be holding a TSR2 day. I will be providing a potted "what-if" history of the service of the TSR2 Eagle and hopefully, some of it's alternatives. To this end, production has been scaled up. The first of the next 2 will be the GR.3 (LR). LR standing for Long Range, as this is one of the aircraft modified to be able to reach the Falkland Islands in 1982. I will be getting a head start with this as a friend donate 2 part built TSRs to my collection. The second is to be the last of the line. The heavily reworked VG, or variable geometry, swing wing....Using my recently retired RN Tomcat F.1, I am cutting and trimming to get the wing mechanism and ramp intakes to fit. Edited August 12, 2014 by Devilfish 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrvr6 Posted June 23, 2014 Share Posted June 23, 2014 i wish i could get there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SleeperService Posted June 23, 2014 Share Posted June 23, 2014 It's been too long since I went to NAM Set 27th seems like a good day. Do we need to book? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devilfish Posted June 24, 2014 Author Share Posted June 24, 2014 Only if you want to exhibit. Visitors just pay at the door as usual. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomjw Posted June 24, 2014 Share Posted June 24, 2014 Excellent. A TSR-2 DAY. I'll be there. By the way, your VG TSR-2 is going to look superb. Can't wait to see more progress. Cheers, Tom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devilfish Posted July 3, 2014 Author Share Posted July 3, 2014 On with the Swing wing version.....I want a new radar, which would most likely be bigger, to increase range and definition. So, the obvious one is a Tornado GR. So how do you turn a TSR nose into a Tonka one? 100_3334 by devilfish2014, on Flickr Short answer, you can't. But I'm going to anyway! As you can see the Tonka is wider 100_3335 by devilfish2014, on Flickr But about the same height 100_3336 by devilfish2014, on Flickr The big problem is that the Tonka is much squarer than the TSR so if just stuck on it will look completely out of place. Also, the Tonka has a spine whereas the TSR doesn't, so this will need blending in. I decided to use the original underside and blend it into the new nose. I started by cutting out a section of the cockpit 100_3337 by devilfish2014, on Flickr To which I will add and blend the lower half of the Tonka 100_3340 by devilfish2014, on Flickr Not sure about the width issues though. Two choices. 1, blend it into the original fuselage, giving a curvy "Coke Bottle" (other colas are available) effect, or 2, blending the fuselage to the nose, i.e. filling it out straight. 100_3339 by devilfish2014, on Flickr 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cookenbacher Posted July 3, 2014 Share Posted July 3, 2014 Very interesting dilemma Devilfish - I trust you to make it very cool looking and plausible in the end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devilfish Posted July 4, 2014 Author Share Posted July 4, 2014 I hope so. I seem to set myself harder and harder tasks when it comes to TSR2s..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SleeperService Posted July 4, 2014 Share Posted July 4, 2014 Thanks for the reply about booking. Me and my mate will both be there. Watching this with interest as I'm trying to work out how to do the same thing. I'm never afraid of following where others have led 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devilfish Posted July 7, 2014 Author Share Posted July 7, 2014 I'm getting there. I need to do this again afterwards with an F3 nose on my fighter version! Had to narrow the nose to get it to blend better 100_3342 by devilfish2014, on Flickr 100_3349 by devilfish2014, on Flickr 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trickyrich Posted July 10, 2014 Share Posted July 10, 2014 you're progressing well, blending the new nose looks to be a fun job, but I like your ideas. I may shorten the nose if mine when I eventually start it...was looking at the project the other day...need clear bench and time. Am following the build with great interest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devilfish Posted July 11, 2014 Author Share Posted July 11, 2014 (edited) I did think about shortening the nose, but I wanted to keep the original nose wheel bay and originally, the equipment bays, but these may be covered over now. With the new radar it will be longer than standard. Edited July 11, 2014 by Devilfish Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tempestfan Posted July 11, 2014 Share Posted July 11, 2014 Your last pic suggests that the TSRs fuselage taper would meet nicely with the Tonka nose if cut around an inch or so further aft - surely the later version has taken full advantage of miniaturized digital equipment and hence needed much less space in the equipment bays ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robvulcan Posted July 11, 2014 Share Posted July 11, 2014 This is Awsome work. Love TSR-2 if anything she lives on as the ultimate Whiff bird it seems. I will be watching this one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shermaniac Posted July 11, 2014 Share Posted July 11, 2014 Your last pic suggests that the TSRs fuselage taper would meet nicely with the Tonka nose if cut around an inch or so further aft - surely the later version has taken full advantage of miniaturized digital equipment and hence needed much less space in the equipment bays ? I'm a Tankie and I was going to suggest something similar and judging from the pics you posted, it shouldn't interfer with the VG wing either - it would however give a shorter forward profile to the TSR2. Worth considering? you could add a refuelling probe possibly to extend the nose back to the original length?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devilfish Posted July 15, 2014 Author Share Posted July 15, 2014 I did consider shortening the nose so that it all met. There was a reason I didn't but for the life of me I can't think of it at this time..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robvulcan Posted July 15, 2014 Share Posted July 15, 2014 Looks like Milliput with Sheet of wet glass will make your life easy here for getting them to flawlessly blend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devilfish Posted July 15, 2014 Author Share Posted July 15, 2014 Looks like Milliput with Sheet of wet glass will make your life easy here for getting them to flawlessly blend. A technique I have long since forgotten..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devilfish Posted July 16, 2014 Author Share Posted July 16, 2014 Got the wing gloves in place now 100_3585 by devilfish2014, on Flickr 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devilfish Posted July 17, 2014 Author Share Posted July 17, 2014 And just to prove I haven't forgotten it, here is the Falklands bomber, with the beginnings of it's fixed refuelling probe 100_3586 by devilfish2014, on Flickr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robvulcan Posted July 17, 2014 Share Posted July 17, 2014 Looking good. I was going to suggest it may look good if you aded the tomcat nose Rather than the tornado. I'd love to see you cross kit TSR-2 and Vigilante to cause some visual confusion. Could be fun Looking good there . Cheers Rob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devilfish Posted July 17, 2014 Author Share Posted July 17, 2014 I do have a Tomcat nose and in all fairness it would have been the easier option, but, I need to do this conversion twice (once for this and once for my fighter version) and I just happen to have 2 Airfix Tonkas (GR1 and a F3) but only one Tomcat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robvulcan Posted July 17, 2014 Share Posted July 17, 2014 I do have a Tomcat nose and in all fairness it would have been the easier option, but, I need to do this conversion twice (once for this and once for my fighter version) and I just happen to have 2 Airfix Tonkas (GR1 and a F3) but only one Tomcat. I understand that. One for the future perhaps. The sleek nose of the Tomcat would suit a TSR-2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devilfish Posted July 18, 2014 Author Share Posted July 18, 2014 I understand that. One for the future perhaps. The sleek nose of the Tomcat would suit a TSR-2. I believe it was done in one of the Airfix "special" magazines they released earlier this year. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robvulcan Posted July 18, 2014 Share Posted July 18, 2014 I believe it was done in one of the Airfix "special" magazines they released earlier this year. It would be nice to see that I must have a look for it. I must get back to a few of my Whifs soon. I would be Interested to see what TSR-2 would look like had it actually one into production as I here it would have looks quite different. I think the intakes would have looked more like the Tornado if what I read was true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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