Caerbannog Posted July 14, 2014 Author Share Posted July 14, 2014 Yes you are right Arnold - at least that is what I think it was. The kit provides parts for both versions. Rene 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caerbannog Posted August 4, 2014 Author Share Posted August 4, 2014 After my futile battle to get my Harrier T4 finished for the Harrier GB which ended this weekend plus other distractions I am back on this one. I finished the plumbing of one wheel well this weekend ... yes - I still had lots of other stuff to do so progress is a bit shy. Next obvious step will be to do the plumbing of the other wheel well but maybe I will then add some more detail so I will not call this wheel well finished: For the plumbing I used differntly sized wire. After I simply superglued them to the plastic I found this quite tedious as the wires came loose all too easy. So I drilled holes inside the plastic in which I could fix at least one end of each wire. This made things more easy and faster (crucial for me...). Rne 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PlaStix Posted August 4, 2014 Share Posted August 4, 2014 Those wires certainly make a difference to the look of the wheel wells. I admire your patience! keep up the good work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caerbannog Posted August 7, 2014 Author Share Posted August 7, 2014 Somehow I found the time to finish the plumbing of the other wheel well and added some more small detail which is not shown in my previous post. After everything was in place I gave the wells a shot of rim colour flat black from a rattle can. This should work as primer and to give a bit more depth to the following shot of interior green which was last night (I think this is the right colour for a Tempest of this time - please correct me if I am wrong): René 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Belbin Posted August 7, 2014 Share Posted August 7, 2014 Coming on well, René. Nick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troy Smith Posted August 8, 2014 Share Posted August 8, 2014 Those wheel wells have really come out well Rene. The general opinion is Tempest wells were grey-green by this point, the photos I posted are of the 2nd prototype of the Tempest MkII, so are probably not representative. Factory line shots look about the right tone to be grey-green. Will you be adding some washes/drybrushing to 'pop out' the detail? cheers T 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caerbannog Posted August 8, 2014 Author Share Posted August 8, 2014 Hi Troy, thanks for the grey-green confirmation. I did some drybrushing yesterday before I glued the wheel wells in place but did not take pictures yet (you can only guess it on one pic below). I did not do too much weathiering yet though - I do not want to make it look a hundert years old, only as you say let the detail pop out a little. The landing lights now have reflectors made from foil, the lens is done from very thin clear sheet (packing material) which is glued to the etched frame , to replace the thick kit part (no pics yet) Now I have to build up some simple structure behind the shell ejectors, otherwise they look what they currently are: Empty. I started to take first measures of where to cut the fuselage. The pencil line shows where the kit fuselage has the same height and width as the resin replacement part. But before I cut I need to check if the resulting length will be correct as well: So hopefully I have more to show next week. Rene 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troy Smith Posted August 8, 2014 Share Posted August 8, 2014 Hi Rene probably too late, the shell ejector slots as done by Eduard are too wide, the are not as wide as the link ejector slots. also, the underwings lights, one is a plain white, the other is more complex, as can be seen just in the above the one in the starboard wings is like this! from http://www.hawkertempest.se/index.php/indetail/walkarounds/category/5-nv778 Still, your Temepst is getting built, mine is in a box cheers T 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Belbin Posted August 8, 2014 Share Posted August 8, 2014 I've found this whilst in a slack period at work and looking for more info. Judging by the pictures, there could be some fouling of the cockpit resin and wheel well top surfaces . . . http://www.razyboard.com/system/morethread-hawker-tempest-eduard-148-beamont-raidenjack-2086023-6231203-0.html Nick 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caerbannog Posted August 10, 2014 Author Share Posted August 10, 2014 Not that I did nothing over the weekend on the Tempest as we built a playhouse for our son now I face more work on the Eduatd kit than I thought... You are not too late Troy and thanks Nick for the link. Now I remember that I saw it before but I completely forgot about it. I did a quick check and it is true - the cockpit interfers with the wheel wells. However I still hope that some ambitious sanding might be enough.... Rene 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caerbannog Posted August 11, 2014 Author Share Posted August 11, 2014 OK - I did some (a lot actually) sanding yesterday. The wheelwells are as thin as paper on the top. The cockpit was sanded until it collapsed completely but to no avail. I will now sand the fuselage halfs from the inside, so the entire cockpit can be moved up. Still I now doubt this will be enough. If not I will cut the cockpit floor instead of the wheel wells in Nick's link, as this will be less obvioous in the end. The lower wing to fuselage fit is poor as well: Again the wheel wells are too high, so hours of sanding are required. If I should ever tackle an eduard Tempest again (I will NOT) I would consider to sand the wheel wells from either side - they will be less deep but probably help with the other issues. A little suggestion for all the happy Eduard Tempest owners: Sell it. ;-) Concerning the landing light. I found this in a forgotten 4+ Publication on the Tempest: It looks round to me, so I will leave this as per kit as compensation for all the sanding. Rene Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troy Smith Posted August 11, 2014 Share Posted August 11, 2014 Crikey Rene, I think all the dry fitting on mine did not have the cockpit in place, but from the link Nick posted, the cockpit sits too low. The real thing does not have 'a floor' so that is part of the problem, the chunk of resin 'floor' with attendant corners, and the thickness of the inner edges of the wells. note, the cut of set of frame work on the real thing is in the wing area kit resin and the real thing! As you will be hard pressed to see that detail without a torch, I'd not get too worried! The real wells have nice thin walls and sit outside the fuselage centre section! I did sand down the bottom of the wells, and scrape the top edges, the short is to get the fit right right, then worry about the detail! the 'good' thing about this [for others] is that it forewarns of the problem, and it would not be too hard to replace the inner well sides with thin sheet....before you add lovely pipework detail. regarding the landing light, the red/green light is only on one side, I made something up to sit behind a new clear cover...I'll quote myself drilled out and narrowed ejection slots, and the new wing light, the Tempest has a double light behind a clear cover here, look at the Tempest site walk rounds of the V at Hendon, as it's suspended this can be seen well. made with the blunt end of a 3mm drill plunged into heated clear sheet. I used thin clear plastic, the drill bit will make like a shallow dish, which fit in the light aperture, with a lip around it to lay on the inside of the wing. I think I scraped back the wing thickness, as with the thin cover and the lighting part you need too otherwise you can see thick plastic, the thin clear sheet allows you to clearly see the intricate detailing that you of course are now going to do to make up those two light and their mountings It's quite a tricky detail to replicate.....right, I must do something more useful then obsess over detail. Over to you HTH T 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caerbannog Posted August 12, 2014 Author Share Posted August 12, 2014 Just had a look on the parts yesterday and took these pics to show the problem: Let's see ... Rene Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arniec Posted August 12, 2014 Share Posted August 12, 2014 Good Luck with that. I hope it will not destroy your project. Now I know why my Tempest is still in the stash. Cheers, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Belbin Posted August 12, 2014 Share Posted August 12, 2014 Fight it Rene, fight it!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caerbannog Posted August 12, 2014 Author Share Posted August 12, 2014 I will Nick. I will. Rene Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troy Smith Posted August 12, 2014 Share Posted August 12, 2014 This is a public service you are doing here Rene. Forewarned is forearmed! Very interesting, but rather frustrating for you! Just out of curiosity [my kit not easily accesible] but how is the fit of the plastic cockpit in comparison? cheers T Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caerbannog Posted August 13, 2014 Author Share Posted August 13, 2014 Good question Troy - I have not checked as the plastic parts are so poor in detail compared to the resin bits that I never tested. But I bet it will be less hassle as the plastic cockpit bottom is where the footrests are, so it does not sit as low as the resin pieces. Rene Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caerbannog Posted August 14, 2014 Author Share Posted August 14, 2014 OK - This is a public service announcement: After some happy felt hours of sanding down the fuselage sides from the inside, the resin cockpit and the wheelwells from the outside (see above) I made as much space for cockpit and wheel wells as possible. Still cockpit and wheel well interfered with each other so further action was needed: After this success I reassembled the scattered copitparts completely and started to glue up the fuselage (later I remembered I wanted to cut the tail first...). A word of warning (as if this would be the only one...): Eduard claims the radiator parts to be sanded down, but leave it quite unclear to me why or how much. As I thinned down the wings I needed to relocate the radiator part inside the fuselage. Now that I started to glue up the fuselage halfs I noticed that due to the new position of the radiator part it should have been sanded down much further... Now I have a nasty gap which needs lots of persuasion to close. Rene 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troy Smith Posted August 14, 2014 Share Posted August 14, 2014 excellent work Rene, you are getting there. After this the next one will be easy Suggest converting it to a MkI ? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doug Rogers Posted August 15, 2014 Share Posted August 15, 2014 Nice pic Troy, looks like a Spiteful on steroids. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caerbannog Posted August 15, 2014 Author Share Posted August 15, 2014 The MkI looks cool - but thanks - no ;-) I wonder there are not more Tempest kits in 1:48. Would be a feast for Hasegawa with the different Mks. Rene Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Belbin Posted August 27, 2014 Share Posted August 27, 2014 Has the thumb recovered, Rene? How are you getting on? Nick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arniec Posted August 28, 2014 Share Posted August 28, 2014 Well it is not aTempest mk I ,but his older brother the Typhoon mk IIB. Ok of toppic. I should have known better. On to the serious stuff. Cheers, 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blastvader Posted August 28, 2014 Share Posted August 28, 2014 Looking great Rene! I'm stealing some of your ideas for my Tiffy. Especially the wheel wells, which look perfect. Though I'm still not sure whether I'll be allowed in the GB as despite having invasion stripes on I'm not sure whether the decals included in the new Airfix kit will qualify Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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