Codger Posted December 5, 2016 Author Share Posted December 5, 2016 41 minutes ago, larchiefeng said: I think that you've hit on my block in finishing the Mercedes. I'm somewhat worried about damaging the delicate details and until I'm fully focused on it, I'd rather just hold off for a while. Also, your trunk handle looks a lot like the hood handles from my Mercedes. It's looking like your vision is really coming to fruition! Since MMC does not make a Rolls-specific handle for the lid, it is the Benz hood handle. A very good likeness for the prototype's seen on GYD-26: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
larchiefeng Posted December 5, 2016 Share Posted December 5, 2016 I thought that it looked familiar. Too bad about the windshield frame and glass but, as usual, you recover and make another copy even better than the first! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silver911 Posted December 6, 2016 Share Posted December 6, 2016 Such a shame about the windshield...but...yet again...all part of your do it twice habit! Thank god it wasn't the coachwork! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Codger Posted December 6, 2016 Author Share Posted December 6, 2016 One Done!... Complete door panel hung in place. Need to trim the body door jamb so it closes fully but very excited about getting past this hurdle. And no mishaps !! 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbondoni Posted December 6, 2016 Share Posted December 6, 2016 Hooray! Sweaty palms during the process? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Codger Posted December 6, 2016 Author Share Posted December 6, 2016 4 minutes ago, gbondoni said: Hooray! Sweaty palms during the process? Sure! But you gotta keep them clean and dry. Can't clamp on the paint or leather so finger pressure is the only way until all sets. Then a wipe down with detail spray. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sharknose156 Posted December 6, 2016 Share Posted December 6, 2016 Codger this looks soo immaculate and of micrometry precision... do you intend to weather it a bit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbondoni Posted December 6, 2016 Share Posted December 6, 2016 Detail spray... what brand / product are you using? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noeyedears Posted December 6, 2016 Share Posted December 6, 2016 wow 😍 it looks so damn neat! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Codger Posted December 6, 2016 Author Share Posted December 6, 2016 1 hour ago, gbondoni said: Detail spray... what brand / product are you using? First thanks to all you boosters. I'm not home and dry just yet and am ever vigilant for disaster... I use Griot's Speed Shine and have for 3 decades on my 1:1 cars. Meguiars spray is a good substitute. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Codger Posted December 7, 2016 Author Share Posted December 7, 2016 A note for any Rolls builders that plan leather interiors; the stock kit doors are literally twice as thick as my scratch-built ones. Also twice as heavy. But making an interior backing panel for the leather and wood on the doors adds to their bulk. Depending on which seats you're using, be mindful for thickness and be sure doors will close fully against the floor pan stop. If you look back in the thread, you'll see that my doors are basically skeletal and the upholstery is hung on very thin backers. C Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Codger Posted December 7, 2016 Author Share Posted December 7, 2016 On 5/6/2015 at 7:01 PM, foxfriend said: What started off as a Rolls Royce has now become a hot rod!! Sorry Codger, but not sure where you are coming from with this now! I must have lost the plot somewhere down the line. Larry. Dear friend Larry. I came across this (note date) tonight because Roy V gave me a like; way back when I had just cut the roof, cowl and doors. I'm saddened that you finished your lovely Sedanca build with exquisite upholstery and disappeared, probably to the aircraft area. But if you still poke in, here on page 60 is where I was heading. I did hit the mark I intended and would love to hear if my idea is still an alien concept or now meets your approval. I really didn't want a hot rod either. Best, Codger Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
larchiefeng Posted December 7, 2016 Share Posted December 7, 2016 A chopped and channeled Rolls Royce!! Ehh gads man you've turned this classic into nothing more than a resto mod!! You're off the Christmas card list! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Codger Posted December 12, 2016 Author Share Posted December 12, 2016 A 'glad-it's-over' update... The rear window frame and glass in place finally. Chrome is great, glass is perfect (on only the second attempt !) Static electricity makes it dusty despite constant brushing... Yes, it's too small; got a yelling at by Marvin but it's what I wanted. Just a neat, thin edge of sparkle in the dark red fabric. Heck, it's my model !! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mpfiend Posted December 13, 2016 Share Posted December 13, 2016 Very nice MrC, it finishes off the window very nicely. Regards Keith. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silver911 Posted December 13, 2016 Share Posted December 13, 2016 Hi Mr C.....looks good....only concern....and I understand the size was your personal choice....it's just looks too deeply inset compared with BLO 442!.... Regards Ron Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harveyb258 Posted December 13, 2016 Share Posted December 13, 2016 What can I say, Mr C? Quote 12 hours ago, Codger said: Just a neat, thin edge of sparkle in the dark red fabric. Heck, it's my model !! A little jewel lying in a cushion of opulence! Just beautiful! I doff my cap to you, Sir Cheers, H Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Codger Posted December 13, 2016 Author Share Posted December 13, 2016 5 hours ago, silver911 said: Hi Mr C.....looks good....only concern....and I understand the size was your personal choice....it's just looks too deeply inset compared with BLO 442!.... Regards Ron You are absolutely correct Ron - inset more than the prototype's. But this was a conscious decision on my part to accept that compromise. Several practical reasons made it so. First off, chrome on highly polished brass is incredibly slippery I found out. Handling it with precision while fitting a part inside it is above my pay scale. This piece was made to slip snugly inside the fabric of the rectangular opening (no glue) and requires a bit of pressure to do that. But the danger is dislodging the glass insert when doing so. Having ruined the first glass like the windshield, with a smudge, it's imperative to not touch the glass - with anything. It's very sensitive to anything more than a make-up brush and will show marks as scratches. Even removing the protective paper is very hard to do on a small piece like this. Needing to press the chrome frame into the opening meant pressing on the glass too if it were flush. The first glass I made, I adhered in the corners with clear parts cement. A tiny drop too much in fact. Out it came, cleaned the frame and made another. I decided to space the glass within with a 1/16 plastic shim, face down on clean paper. I then switched to Future mixed with a little Windex (to thin it a bit) and applied it with pick to the vertical sides by wicking it in. Let it set an hour, and I had an even depth within the frame. This allowed me to press in the frame (wearing gloves) on the outer edge all around without glass contact. So that's the why of it. Sure I prefer GYD-26's look but I'm also very happy to have a perfect, clear glass with no flaws there. It's nice when light reflects across the thin chrome and the flat pane of glass. As I said many times, knowing my limits and when to stop is best. I can surely live with the compromise. Those of you who build for clients must produce what he demands even though he has no knowledge of the difficulty or impractical nature of the demand. That's why I'm several levels down from the professional ranks. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
larchiefeng Posted December 13, 2016 Share Posted December 13, 2016 It might be slightly inset but, it's really only apparent because of your brave close up picture that shows how nicely the top is done with the bead around the bottom and seam finish across the upper rear section. When viewed as a whole from a distance I doubt it will ever be noticed. I ran into the same thing with the slippery chrome when I was trying to get the glove box doors to seat into the MMC dash on the Mercedes. Very finicky to work with and I had the advantage of being able to dab some glue on the back side but, I used tape instead because I was afraid of the glue wicking through the material. Good job on adding the final details. I know how stressful this point of the build is as it's possible to ruin everything that you've done by making one small mistake. Keep up the great work and keep a steady hand. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silver911 Posted December 13, 2016 Share Posted December 13, 2016 1 hour ago, Codger said: You are absolutely correct Ron - inset more than the prototype's. But this was a conscious decision on my part to accept that compromise. Several practical reasons made it so. First off, chrome on highly polished brass is incredibly slippery I found out. Handling it with precision while fitting a part inside it is above my pay scale. This piece was made to slip snugly inside the fabric of the rectangular opening (no glue) and requires a bit of pressure to do that. But the danger is dislodging the glass insert when doing so. Having ruined the first glass like the windshield, with a smudge, it's imperative to not touch the glass - with anything. It's very sensitive to anything more than a make-up brush and will show marks as scratches. Even removing the protective paper is very hard to do on a small piece like this. Needing to press the chrome frame into the opening meant pressing on the glass too if it were flush. The first glass I made, I adhered in the corners with clear parts cement. A tiny drop too much in fact. Out it came, cleaned the frame and made another. I decided to space the glass within with a 1/16 plastic shim, face down on clean paper. I then switched to Future mixed with a little Windex (to thin it a bit) and applied it with pick to the vertical sides by wicking it in. Let it set an hour, and I had an even depth within the frame. This allowed me to press in the frame (wearing gloves) on the outer edge all around without glass contact. So that's the why of it. Sure I prefer GYD-26's look but I'm also very happy to have a perfect, clear glass with no flaws there. It's nice when light reflects across the thin chrome and the flat pane of glass. As I said many times, knowing my limits and when to stop is best. I can surely live with the compromise. Those of you who build for clients must produce what he demands even though he has no knowledge of the difficulty or impractical nature of the demand. That's why I'm several levels down from the professional ranks. As usual...an eloquent and very informative reply Mr C....but trust me on this....a certain individual who 'builds for clients' is way below your classic skills level.....much respect. Regards Ron 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Codger Posted December 13, 2016 Author Share Posted December 13, 2016 2 hours ago, larchiefeng said: I know how stressful this point of the build is as it's possible to ruin everything that you've done by making one small mistake. Keep up the great work and keep a steady hand. First, thanks guys. Wayne, truer words were never written. I am painfully aware that any wrong move, method, glue or dark of night can be un-fixable from this point on. No wonder the shakes haunt me. I am frankly amazed I haven't dropped the damned thing in over 2 1/2 years of wrestling with it. I am constantly moving liquids, tools and hazards out the the way where I might damage it. I try to work on the smallest sections possible but now at this late stage, much is done on the large and becoming-heavy, body. A stolen page from Roy MB's book is the comfy face towel as a work surface to rest the painted side of the doors or the body sides on while assembling the bits on them. But I have to vacuum it after each operation to be sure I don't grind shavings into what I'm trying to protect. Arrrrgh..... I have to get Rich's pajama bottoms soon. Any psychiatrist members here??.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazyCrank Posted December 13, 2016 Share Posted December 13, 2016 1 hour ago, Codger said: First, thanks guys. Wayne, truer words were never written. I am painfully aware that any wrong move, method, glue or dark of night can be un-fixable from this point on. No wonder the shakes haunt me. I am frankly amazed I haven't dropped the damned thing in over 2 1/2 years of wrestling with it. I am constantly moving liquids, tools and hazards out the the way where I might damage it. I try to work on the smallest sections possible but now at this late stage, much is done on the large and becoming-heavy, body. A stolen page from Roy MB's book is the comfy face towel as a work surface to rest the painted side of the doors or the body sides on while assembling the bits on them. But I have to vacuum it after each operation to be sure I don't grind shavings into what I'm trying to protect. Arrrrgh..... I have to get Rich's pajama bottoms soon. Any psychiatrist members here??.... Reading you, i'm now afraid and I don't know if i'll continue to work on my Bugatti once the chassis is achieved. I've already spoiled or ruined some works on it with glueing fingerprints, and have had to redo the hard job... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Codger Posted December 13, 2016 Author Share Posted December 13, 2016 1 minute ago, CrazyCrank said: Reading you, i'm now afraid and I don't know if i'll continue to work on my Bugatti once the chassis is achieved. I've already spoiled or ruined some works on it with glueing fingerprints, and have had to redo the hard job... Thierry, It is not my intention to frighten you or cause your wonderful project to cease. Or anyone's for that matter. I am simply relaying my own weakness, worries and precautions. There are hundreds of quality modelers who have no such problems. Including most everyone here. I've adopted the attitude that I must simply redo and remake any damages or flaws that I cause. I am willing to do that because it now appears that I will have a worthwhile outcome. You yourself have redone areas which did not succeed as planned and successfully at that. You will have a lovely result. I'm just pointing out that the level of care ratchets upward as you enter the later stages. I repeat; DO NOT STOP your wonderful build. C 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazyCrank Posted December 13, 2016 Share Posted December 13, 2016 26 minutes ago, Codger said: Thierry, It is not my intention to frighten you or cause your wonderful project to cease. Or anyone's for that matter. I am simply relaying my own weakness, worries and precautions. There are hundreds of quality modelers who have no such problems. Including most everyone here. I've adopted the attitude that I must simply redo and remake any damages or flaws that I cause. I am willing to do that because it now appears that I will have a worthwhile outcome. You yourself have redone areas which did not succeed as planned and successfully at that. You will have a lovely result. I'm just pointing out that the level of care ratchets upward as you enter the later stages. I repeat; DO NOT STOP your wonderful build. C No, of course, i'll do not stop, and i've perfectly understood you explained that,more you progress in your construction, more carefully you must work. i've already noticed that for my own work. And repaired or modified a lot of things that were already perfect because a nanosecond of carelessness OK, OK, i'll continue...but i'm stuck as for now, because I've a lot of uncertainties about "how to build this, how to modify that", by lack of accurate documents, or contradictory informations. So, no progress, in building, and many hours spent in plans, thoughts, hesitations etc. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
larchiefeng Posted December 13, 2016 Share Posted December 13, 2016 Join the club, Thierry! Lol 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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