Pin Posted May 10, 2014 Share Posted May 10, 2014 Challenging kit - I still can not believe I dared Whatever .... First few shots Let's get started Two out of four engines I'm not happy with the lozenge decals that are supplied with the kit. Thinking about printing my own 5 colour night lozenge decals. Test pattern prints Dry fitting of engine assembly to nacelles The /\-shaped stands seem too fragile and missing cowlings - thinking about replacing them with metal struts Bombs. A lot of bombs. Each requires sanding and puttying 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard B. Posted May 10, 2014 Share Posted May 10, 2014 My hat is off to you. I do a lot of WW1 modeling with its rigging and struts and I admire you for building this kit. This aircraft has a forest of struts and miles of rigging wire. It will look tremendous when you finish it. remember, the watchword is patience. I can tell you are going to do a great job because of the quality of work you have already done. I'm pulling for you. Us WW1 modellers are all in this together. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VG 33 Posted May 11, 2014 Share Posted May 11, 2014 For the weeks to come you know what to do if the weather is rainy. So I am looking forward. Patrick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martian Posted May 11, 2014 Share Posted May 11, 2014 Great start! Roden kits have a reputation for having rather fragile strutting, so it might be wise to take hat into account from the start, especially considering the weight they are going to have to bear. Martin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viking Posted May 11, 2014 Share Posted May 11, 2014 Wow, great start this is going to be good. I echo what Martin says about Roden struts, (guess how I know). Cheers John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gruffy Posted May 11, 2014 Share Posted May 11, 2014 Wow! A great start! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justin1980 Posted May 11, 2014 Share Posted May 11, 2014 Great start Pin, as another avid builder a rigger of WW1 aircraft I can't wait to see this progress, you may need some extra rigging material to cover the miles of the stuff you will use! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomoshenko Posted May 11, 2014 Share Posted May 11, 2014 Looking forward to following this. Great start by the way. I have the Vickers Vimy in my stash so I'm sure I'll learn much about how you tackle these birds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stashaholic Steve Posted May 11, 2014 Share Posted May 11, 2014 Fantastic start. Reckon I'll just wait for Wingnuts to bring one out in 1/32 though . 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justin1980 Posted May 11, 2014 Share Posted May 11, 2014 Looking forward to following this. Great start by the way. I have the Vickers Vimy in my stash so I'm sure I'll learn much about how you tackle these birds. Your not the only one Tomo, how many times have you pulled it out of the stash, thought that will look awesome built, then quietly put it away again! So maybe we need to combine our resources and opt for a buddy build? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JOCKNEY Posted May 11, 2014 Share Posted May 11, 2014 First of all congratulation for starting, I have the "brown" version of this which is terrifying, I have a Felixstowe as well and that is scary so I am with you all the way. Are you offering apprenticeships ? Cheers Pat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Val Posted May 12, 2014 Share Posted May 12, 2014 I wasn't going to follow this, just because WW1 stuff isn't really my thing. But then I scrolled down and saw the engine... WOW, this build is going to be amazing!! I'm pulling up a seat for this one!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pin Posted May 14, 2014 Author Share Posted May 14, 2014 Thank you fellows for kind words - really inspiring! Yes, Roden struts are notorious for their fragility, but the struts of this beast are the kings of all struts - thick and massive so I don't expect any problems with them. As a measure of last resort I have a set of Aeroclub profiles. I'm not concerned about the amount of rigging (in fact, I usually enjoy the process) but this is my first German WW1 plane and it is lozenge is what makes me nervous. Partially because of that I decided to print my own lozenge decals - in this case I'm never short of it Once completed there will be a mandatory shot alongside Vimy and Ilya Muromets to demonstrate different views on what a "heavy bomber" means This scene is not yet complete And finally - some progress The pace is very slow as the number of details is big and the quality of moulding is not very good (but not bad either) Question time - were there any seat belts? 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winenut Posted May 14, 2014 Share Posted May 14, 2014 There's some awesome stuff on this thread! Looking great....chocks away! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Planebuilder62 Posted May 14, 2014 Share Posted May 14, 2014 Brave man. I built the Roden Felixstowe a short time back and enjoyed it immensely. Good luck with getting the wings parallel ans square. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pin Posted May 14, 2014 Author Share Posted May 14, 2014 (edited) Good luck with getting the wings parallel ans square. Thanks, I am a lucky owner of a magic tool for this purpose - Aeroclub biplane rig (this is not mine) : Edited May 14, 2014 by Pin 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomoshenko Posted May 14, 2014 Share Posted May 14, 2014 Pin I would not worry about a slow pace. These builds take patience, and your builds above are certainly worth waiting for. Impressive rigging jig, look forward to seeing it in use. Got me thinking of building a poor man's copy from Meccano. By the way how do you create the wood effect? Justin I would be interested in a Vimy buddy build. It would have to be in a while, and for a while though. You could start a separate thread on the interwar forum for those interested. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pin Posted May 15, 2014 Author Share Posted May 15, 2014 (edited) I use the following method to imitate wood- apply base colour, usually "Radome" or "Flash"- imitate texture using short hard brush and brown paint. I don't draw each line but rather use technique similar to dry brushing with little more paint- once dried - airbrush with mixture of transparent red and yellowOverall - just four paints Edited May 15, 2014 by Pin 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Val Posted May 15, 2014 Share Posted May 15, 2014 Awesome, thanks for sharing that one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squiffy Posted May 16, 2014 Share Posted May 16, 2014 This looks fantastic! Thanks for showing how you do the wood effect, I'll give it a go. I'll be watching how you do the rigging as it's something I've never done and as I have just bought a Roden kit of a Gotha IV, I feel it could benefit from having the rigging added. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pin Posted May 16, 2014 Author Share Posted May 16, 2014 (edited) Usually I pre-drill holes where the ropes join the wings - blind-ended on the upper wing and through on the lower, all the rigging is done while the model is fixed in the rig, upper surface of the lower wing and lower surface of the top wing are pre-painted. I use "GoldZack" elastic thread Spill a small pool of liquid super-glue on flat surface (I use bottle cups), cut a piece of thread, briefly dip one end into the glue and insert into the hole on the upper wing. Once the glue is set run the remaining end through the hole in the lower wing and fix with a drop of super glue, then cut the excess of the thread. Once all the rigging is done take the model from the rig and sand lower surface of the lower wing (reminder - it was not painted). The glue used for thread fixing also acts as putty so the holes will not be visible at all once the paint is applied. This time, however, I want to try another method - I have bought a set of etched loopholes so I'm planning the following course of action: pre-drill holes for turn-buckles, apply base colour, decals (lozenge-lozenge), paint turn-buckles, glue them in, stretch wires. There is one thing to think about: These triangular things are actually fabric covers, I haven't yet decided how to imitate them. I'm thinking of paper soaked in super glue. Edited May 16, 2014 by Pin 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gruffy Posted May 16, 2014 Share Posted May 16, 2014 Good work! The etch turn buckles would put me in a straight jacket though! Hehe! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolwe82 Posted May 17, 2014 Share Posted May 17, 2014 wow thats pretty amazing job so far.. and ilya muromets!? havent seen that plane for like 20 years! the wooden parts looks great.. i saw few diferent techniques around BM and all are awesome, should give it a try one day Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pin Posted May 18, 2014 Author Share Posted May 18, 2014 The deck The assembly instruction is not correct - the seats and controls must be raised as this aircraft had opened cockpit. Although not shown all the parts needed are on the sprues, I added some details to make the interior look "busy" 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martian Posted May 18, 2014 Share Posted May 18, 2014 Great work! I can feel myself weakening towards this kit! Martin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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