Step Posted May 30, 2014 Share Posted May 30, 2014 The bonus of the 1/72 kit is it's all there, simple to build and cheap, so you can practice and build up to the 1/48 kit! To answer your earlier question the afghan jets were indeed in dark sea grey and dark camo grey Nothing quite prepares you for the horrors of the Tamiya 1/48th kit though 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Moff Posted May 31, 2014 Share Posted May 31, 2014 Well, just purchased the GR7/9 Airfix kit as suggested, will do the 2006 Herrick GR7. Am looking at an FA2/GR7 Airfix combi - good price and maybe I can do an Op Telic Harrier too...I know it has raised panel lines, but not too worried at this stage....have to think about it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintsPhil Posted May 31, 2014 Share Posted May 31, 2014 I can't recommend the old tool GR7 kit, you're much better off with the new tool, unless you can pick the combo up cheap, use the GR as an airbrush practice kit! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hammasphee Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 Having enjoyed the LTAT GB so much, would like to pitch in here too now Have the new 1/72 Airfix GR9 in the stash that I've been planning as ZG858 Poison 1 from the retirement flight, to go alongside T12 ZH665 Poison 2 that was my first model out of retirement last year. Couple of questions before I begin though; firstly, does anyone know where I can get some of the pylon fairings in 1/72 (like these that were produced a while ago in 1/48 http://www.britmodeller.com/forums/index.php?/topic/74889-148th-harrier-pylon-fairings/). Secondly, does anyone know a good match for the red on the tailfin in acrylics? Closest I've found is Tamiya XF8, but not too sure about it. Many thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Moff Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 general question - tools wise I just have some snips, sanding sticks, pliers etc - I need to drill some holes out - what do people recommend drill wise? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Procopius Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 I use a cheap little pin vise, myself. On Amazon or ebay you can get them for a very small amount of money and a number of bits, preferably those in the 61-80 size range. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Moff Posted June 4, 2014 Share Posted June 4, 2014 Thanks for the advice, I will order one, the Tamiya one looks ok - what do you mean by 61-80 range? The bits on the Tamiya are 0.2 to 0.5MM. looking at some of the holes, one I am looking at is 0.8mm? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Moff Posted June 4, 2014 Share Posted June 4, 2014 Well my Airfix 1/72 GR7/9 has arrived, so, against better judgement and advice, I will do Lucy from Op Herrick in 1/72 (looks so Dinky!!) and Jedi 3 with the REvell 1/48 kit as it has a 65% LERX as per the kit and is MSG so shouldn't be too bad....never gonna be to you guys standards and will be OOB and in flight for the boys ceiling - just aiming for a good basic OOB model! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Procopius Posted June 4, 2014 Share Posted June 4, 2014 Thanks for the advice, I will order one, the Tamiya one looks ok - what do you mean by 61-80 range? The bits on the Tamiya are 0.2 to 0.5MM. looking at some of the holes, one I am looking at is 0.8mm? Ah, I had no idea, but apparently here we use bit gauge instead of bit diameter: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drill_bit_sizes#Drill_Bit_Conversion_Table Live and learn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich F Posted June 9, 2014 Share Posted June 9, 2014 Quick questions for the Harrier experts. Regarding the GR.5 did it have the GPS antenna fitted and were the strengthening plates(Rear fuselage)added? TIA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xffw45343tg Posted June 14, 2014 Share Posted June 14, 2014 (edited) No GPS on a GR5. I'm reasonably sure the strengthening plates were the result of discovering cracks after some time in service - so not GR5. Kirk Edited June 14, 2014 by Kirk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintsPhil Posted June 14, 2014 Share Posted June 14, 2014 No GPS on a GR5. I'm reasonably sure the strengthening plates were the result of discoveing cracks after some time in service - so not GR5. Kirk Are you sure about the strengthening plates? When I did my GR to AV8 build there was some discussion about them and it was found early on the retrofitted to all in service jets. The US ones have them internally to the airframe I believe, I can't find my thread at the moment to double check... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xffw45343tg Posted June 14, 2014 Share Posted June 14, 2014 Are you sure about the strengthening plates? Nope! I've been staring at far too many pictures of Harriers recently to be sure that any 2 aircraft are alike - although I'm concentrating on the cockpit area (which I'm prepared to be more confident about) for a CAD model on which I'm working. I can say that Hasegawa 1:48 Harriers are missing the interior ventilation ducts & one of the more prominent frames, and have an extra ECS vent on the starboard cockpit flank that is only on the radar aicraft... . I was aware that the aft fuselage issue was identified early in the Harrier II's life but the relatively few pics I have seen of GR5s seem to be fresh out of Dunsfold and so in their unadorned state; I'll happily defer to you on this one. Cheers, Kirk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintsPhil Posted June 14, 2014 Share Posted June 14, 2014 Kirk, I'm no harrier expert but guys from the Harrier sig chipped in on my build and gave me the above info! You're very right that no 2 are the same mind.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arniec Posted June 14, 2014 Share Posted June 14, 2014 Hi guys, I am an in need of some help. I want to make my GR3 as a FAlkland war machine with two LGB's under the wings. But I have no idea witch one to use. Cold someone please help me. Cheers, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintsPhil Posted June 14, 2014 Share Posted June 14, 2014 Paveway II, if it's 1/72 then the ones in the Revell Tonka GR1 kit will do the job Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arniec Posted June 14, 2014 Share Posted June 14, 2014 I have got two sets from hasegawa with GBU's are those usable?! I have got no Tonka in 1/72. I normaly build in 1/48. O, what wheight did they have. 1000 pounds?! Cheers, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cookenbacher Posted July 2, 2014 Share Posted July 2, 2014 How do Harrier tail codes work? I put '61A' (using Kits-World 8" RAF serial numbers set - meant for WWII Bomber Command, but the font looked right) on mine simply because the reference pic I have for ZG471 has it with a '61A' tail code, not because I know anything else about it! Arniec, I don't think the Paveway II's from the Hasegawa weapons sets are what you need since they depict the LGB kits attached to US Mk80 series bombs rather than RAF GP bombs. I used RAF Paveways II's I found in the 1/72 Airfix Buccaneer kit for my GR7. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Procopius Posted July 2, 2014 Share Posted July 2, 2014 I have got two sets from hasegawa with GBU's are those usable?! I have got no Tonka in 1/72. I normaly build in 1/48. O, what wheight did they have. 1000 pounds?! Cheers, Cookenbacher's right. You'd want some RAF Paveways; the ones in the Revell Tornado are quite nice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xffw45343tg Posted July 3, 2014 Share Posted July 3, 2014 How do Harrier tail codes work? I put '61A' (using Kits-World 8" RAF serial numbers set - meant for WWII Bomber Command, but the font looked right) on mine simply because the reference pic I have for ZG471 has it with a '61A' tail code, not because I know anything else about it! Arniec, I don't think the Paveway II's from the Hasegawa weapons sets are what you need since they depict the LGB kits attached to US Mk80 series bombs rather than RAF GP bombs. I used RAF Paveways II's I found in the 1/72 Airfix Buccaneer kit for my GR7. I think Bill summarised it on Tim's thread so I'll see if I've got it straight; The first 2 digits were sequential across the fleet and an "A" appears if the aircraft is fitted with the more powerful Mk 107 engine. So the last single seater ZG862 is either 94 or 94A depending on dates. As I mentioned elsewhere, the "A" doesn't always reflect the fitment on the day. KIrk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cookenbacher Posted July 3, 2014 Share Posted July 3, 2014 (edited) Thanks Kirk. So it functions more like a serial number than a squadron ID in that it is permanently attached to an individual aircraft regardless of squadron affiliation? Edited July 3, 2014 by Cookenbacher Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dermo245 Posted July 15, 2014 Share Posted July 15, 2014 Quick question - I'm building XZ 457/14 using the italeri kit and Airfix decals. What colour are the interior of - the front gear doors and - the bay that houses the airbrake? Thanks in advance! Dermot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintsPhil Posted July 16, 2014 Share Posted July 16, 2014 The gear bay doors are white inside and very dirty! The airbrake bay is the underside colour, so depends on the scheme. Phil 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Procopius Posted July 16, 2014 Share Posted July 16, 2014 The airbrake bay is the underside colour, so depends on the scheme. Phil Not white! Arrrrgh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nimrod54 Posted July 16, 2014 Share Posted July 16, 2014 The Harrier SIG colour reference sheet has the undercarriage and airbrake bays listed as a (very dirty) Satin White for RAF/RN aircraft. There are no specific Harrier types given so I assume that this is universal.??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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