Rene Erhart Posted April 30, 2014 Share Posted April 30, 2014 Hello fellow modelers, I am looking for the colors of the nose art of a B-17F that crashed in the Netherlands, near the town of Zegveld, in february 1944. The plane was named San Antonio Rose, and the nose art depicts a girl with a lasso, which wraps around the two nose windows on the port side. I have a b/w picture... We are building a model of this particular B-17 for a memorial display on May 15-16, so any help regarding the colors would be greatly appreciated! Regards, René 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mungo1974 Posted April 30, 2014 Share Posted April 30, 2014 Which Bomb Group? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rene Erhart Posted April 30, 2014 Author Share Posted April 30, 2014 95th Bomb group, 336 BS, B17F-65DL, 42-3462, ET-B Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vicarage Vee Posted April 30, 2014 Share Posted April 30, 2014 (edited) Would love to help, but a colour photo might be impossible. For others viewing the thread: http://95thbg.org/95th_joomla/images/noseart/San%20Aantonio%20Rose.jpg http://www.95thbg-horham.com/page226.html I take it you've asked here http://95thbg-horham.com/wordpress/ & here http://95thbg.org/95th_joomla/ It may need to be an educated guess. Are there any colour photos of other planes in the group and is it possible determine any common artist on the squadron for clues? They seem to use the colours to hand on the whole, but those groups who had really talented, or co-opted professional, artists did seem to use other colours (maybe mixed between these?). Edited April 30, 2014 by Vicarage Vee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Byron Boyd Posted May 1, 2014 Share Posted May 1, 2014 (edited) Hello fellow modelers, I am looking for the colors of the nose art of a B-17F that crashed in the Netherlands, near the town of Zegveld, in february 1944. The plane was named San Antonio Rose, and the nose art depicts a girl with a lasso, which wraps around the two nose windows on the port side. I have a b/w picture... We are building a model of this particular B-17 for a memorial display on May 15-16, so any help regarding the colors would be greatly appreciated! Regards, René As many others have pointed out, color analysis of a black and white photo is 'iffy' at best. Even Lifelike Decals gave two different versions of 'Barbara Jean' on one of their recent B-24 sheets, and I have seen some very detailed analyses of the proper interpretation of the very stunning nose art on B-24 'Cocktail Hour'. That being said, however, here would be my guess: Lasso: Light tans and browns, as befitting the type of rope used to make a lasso. Hat: Light tan or straw color Holster: Dark Brown, with the pistol handle black Skin: Basic Flesh tone, ie, she appears to be fair-skinned, and not tanned Lips: Red - this is pretty much the only color one could really be certain of, as the Goth look (black lipstick) was not even considered an option for 40's-era ladies or cowgirls, or in the minds of the men fantasizing about them... Boots: Most likely light brown (light tan leather), with Dark Brown patches and Black buckles Hair: Red or dark brown, hard to say, although one could argue that red hair would go together with fair (untanned) skin Halter top: Red or blue, with white spots. Were it me, I would make the halter top red, simply for the visual effect of drawing the eyes to the semi-covered breasts. Skirt: Impossible to tell, but a blue denim skirt would be a natural compliment to a red halter top... Eyes: If the hair is red, blue; if the hair is brown, brown. Again, this is just an educated guess, and short of a good color photo, it's not any worse than any other... HTH Byron Edited May 1, 2014 by Byron Boyd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vicarage Vee Posted May 1, 2014 Share Posted May 1, 2014 Given that it's San Antonio, and Texas, the use of red and blue seems most appropriate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radpoe Spitfire Posted May 2, 2014 Share Posted May 2, 2014 I think Byron that you're pretty close to the mark, I would imagine the only limitations would be availability and access to the various paints. Without sounding to daft,I can only assume they would have used standard USAAF colours from on station stores. Luckily they would have all the base colours and B/W. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rene Erhart Posted May 2, 2014 Author Share Posted May 2, 2014 Thank you all very much for your replies, this has been very helpful! regards, René Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Byron Boyd Posted May 2, 2014 Share Posted May 2, 2014 Thank you all very much for your replies, this has been very helpful! regards,René René, Would you mind posting a picture of the model when your group has finished it? I'd like to see how it turns out. TIA, Byron Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rene Erhart Posted May 5, 2014 Author Share Posted May 5, 2014 Will do, should be finished in the next couple of weeks....Will also include pictures of the memorial event. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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