Lars Befring Posted March 19, 2014 Share Posted March 19, 2014 During the WWII the Swedish airline ABA continued its international flights with planes painted in striking orange.Björn Bäcklund has built, rescribed, slightly modified, cut his own masks and used a lot of orange color on a Monogram DC-3: The orange color and Swedish markings didn't keep the plane from being shot down in 1943. Björn presents the build here: http://www.ipmsstockholm.se/home/148-aba-douglas-dc-3-gladan/ Lars Befring for IPMS-Stockholm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vingtor Posted March 19, 2014 Share Posted March 19, 2014 Great model of an interesting subject. Do you know which orange paint was used? Nils Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lars Befring Posted March 19, 2014 Author Share Posted March 19, 2014 Ill ask Björn... but you know that you can ask or comment directly at the site... the question wont show until we check it (spam) but it will be read directly /L Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garryrussell Posted March 19, 2014 Share Posted March 19, 2014 KLM also used this overall orange livery. Can't open the link though...IE locks when part open, but probably a problem with my machine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orso Posted March 19, 2014 Share Posted March 19, 2014 Testors 4682 International Orange. Björn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lars Befring Posted March 19, 2014 Author Share Posted March 19, 2014 KLM also used this overall orange livery. Can't open the link though...IE locks when part open, but probably a problem with my machine. Awwwww..... works on my IE.... damn you internet! does "right-click-copy" work? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garryrussell Posted March 19, 2014 Share Posted March 19, 2014 Nah...it's just something my machine is doing a lot lately...goes well then pages start half opening and locking. Only certain pages or sites. Happened since the last Windows update. Maybe later it will open, they usually do eventually. Then I'll get a propper look at what is a very smart model. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admiral Puff Posted March 20, 2014 Share Posted March 20, 2014 Beautiful! Just one thing - I don't want to detract from the effort that Bjorn has obviously put in, but shouldn't the model have Cyclone engines, rather than Twin Wasps? According to the Gradidge encyclopaedia, SE-BAF (c/n 2133) was a Fokker-built DC-3-268. The DC-3 was originally designed around the Cyclone, and my understanding is that all the Fokker-built aircraft had them. Although I accept that the aircraft could have had an engine change during its life (that wasn't a difficult job - the two types were interchangeable) I've found nothing in my references to suggest that it did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lars Befring Posted March 20, 2014 Author Share Posted March 20, 2014 Ill pass that question on to Björn... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lars Befring Posted March 21, 2014 Author Share Posted March 21, 2014 Beautiful! Just one thing - I don't want to detract from the effort that Bjorn has obviously put in, but shouldn't the model have Cyclone engines, rather than Twin Wasps? According to the Gradidge encyclopaedia, SE-BAF (c/n 2133) was a Fokker-built DC-3-268. The DC-3 was originally designed around the Cyclone, and my understanding is that all the Fokker-built aircraft had them. Although I accept that the aircraft could have had an engine change during its life (that wasn't a difficult job - the two types were interchangeable) I've found nothing in my references to suggest that it did. That is right! the aircraft was a Fokker built plant that ABA bought from Swissair at the beginning of WWII. ABA got the engine-change approved on the 27th of March 1943. the engine installed was a P&W R-1830-92. this info is translated from a thread on the Swedish air history forum http://forum.flyghistoria.org/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=2528&p=13437&hilit=gladan&sid=0c2f98cba2b72d5869dec79a90606529#p13437 /L Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admiral Puff Posted March 22, 2014 Share Posted March 22, 2014 Thanks, Lars - I stand corrected! DC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lars Befring Posted March 22, 2014 Author Share Posted March 22, 2014 Thanks, Lars - I stand corrected! DC I would say that you where totally correct! until March of 1943 SE-BAF did have the Cyclones Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stashaholic Steve Posted May 13, 2014 Share Posted May 13, 2014 Never heard of this before. All completely new to me. I'd be interested to learn more, and also about the shootdown. Great looking model. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Test Graham Posted May 13, 2014 Share Posted May 13, 2014 One interesting link to this is that the Swedes found themselves in a predicament when it came to obtaining engines in wartime. So the decided to reverse-engineer the P&W R1830 and put it into production. Not just for this DC-3... Post war a Swedish delegation turned up at P&W and admitted everything, whereupon P&W waived all licence charges. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jessica Posted May 14, 2014 Share Posted May 14, 2014 That must be a very different Pratt & Whitney from today's current Pratt & Whitney who won't even allow decal makers to make decals for engines. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Procopius Posted May 14, 2014 Share Posted May 14, 2014 That must be a very different Pratt & Whitney from today's current Pratt & Whitney who won't even allow decal makers to make decals for engines. I suspect that in 1945, P&W were sitting on so much money it was becoming physically uncomfortable. Lars -- who shot the DC-3 down, the Allies or the Axis? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vingtor Posted May 14, 2014 Share Posted May 14, 2014 For those who are interested, I am writing a book on the courier flights between Britain and Sweden during WWII, including British, Norwegian, Swedish and American aircraft. The manuscript and photos will hopefully be handed over to the publisher within a couple of months. Nils Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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