feoffee2 Posted March 10, 2014 Share Posted March 10, 2014 It has begun 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cuprar Posted March 10, 2014 Share Posted March 10, 2014 As it? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phildagreek Posted March 10, 2014 Share Posted March 10, 2014 where is it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
feoffee2 Posted March 10, 2014 Author Share Posted March 10, 2014 where is it? As it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUSTON Posted March 10, 2014 Share Posted March 10, 2014 ...and I am all ears and eyes... Go for it.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
feoffee2 Posted March 10, 2014 Author Share Posted March 10, 2014 ...and I am all ears and eyes... Go for it.. Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tail-Dragon Posted March 10, 2014 Share Posted March 10, 2014 That's one heck of a conversion, lots of work on the wings as well as the fuselage stretch - should be fun! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
feoffee2 Posted March 10, 2014 Author Share Posted March 10, 2014 That's one heck of a conversion, lots of work on the wings as well as the fuselage stretch - should be fun!Yer What do I have to do with the wings thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RocketSurgeon Posted March 10, 2014 Share Posted March 10, 2014 Nothing... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Posted March 10, 2014 Share Posted March 10, 2014 The Revell A320 and A319 kits have A321 wings out of the box, you need to do nothing. But that fuselage might need a bit of filler! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romeo Alpha Yankee Posted March 11, 2014 Share Posted March 11, 2014 Interesting, what are you using to fill the extensions with? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
feoffee2 Posted March 11, 2014 Author Share Posted March 11, 2014 The Revell A320 and A319 kits have A321 wings out of the box, you need to do nothing. But that fuselage might need a bit of filler! Nothing...That's what I thought thanksInteresting, what are you using to fill the extensions with?Revell plasto Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tail-Dragon Posted March 11, 2014 Share Posted March 11, 2014 (edited) That's one heck of a conversion, lots of work on the wings as well as the fuselage stretch - should be fun! Hi The A-319 and A-320 use a simple one piece flap that moves aft and down along tracks hidden under the flap fairings. The A-321 has a more complex double slotted flap, the aft portion of the flap deflects more than the main body of the flap as they extend. These secondary flap sections have their own sets of fairings that cover the actuating mechanism (not seen on 319/320's). They also increase the wing area, being larger than the 319/320 flaps. The other significant changes are the location of the emergency exits - no longer over the wing, but being moved ahead of the leading edge and behind the trailing edge, and increased in size. Each of these has a slide/raft door below them, now. The engine strakes are not the same as a 319/320 also. Colin Edited March 11, 2014 by Tail-Dragon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
feoffee2 Posted March 11, 2014 Author Share Posted March 11, 2014 Hi The A-319 and A-320 use a simple one piece flap that moves aft and down along tracks hidden under the flap fairings. The A-321 has a more complex double slotted flap, the aft portion of the flap deflects more than the main body of the flap as they extend. These secondary flap sections have their own sets of fairings that cover the actuating mechanism (not seen on 319/320's). They also increase the wing area, being larger than the 319/320 flaps. The other significant changes are the location of the emergency exits - no longer over the wing, but being moved ahead of the leading edge and behind the trailing edge, and increased in size. Each of these has a slide/raft door below them, now. The engine strakes are not the same as a 319/320 also. Colin Thanks will look into it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caution Wake Turbulence Posted March 11, 2014 Share Posted March 11, 2014 The A-319 and A-320 use a simple one piece flap that moves aft and down along tracks hidden under the flap fairings. The A-321 has a more complex double slotted flap, the aft portion of the flap deflects more than the main body of the flap as they extend. These secondary flap sections have their own sets of fairings that cover the actuating mechanism (not seen on 319/320's). They also increase the wing area, being larger than the 319/320 flaps. As Mark mentioned earlier, all Revell A320 series kits come with A321 wings, depicting the double-slotted flaps.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caution Wake Turbulence Posted March 11, 2014 Share Posted March 11, 2014 HiThe engine strakes are not the same as a 319/320 also. Colin Interesting! I'd not noticed that- just an additional outboard nacelle chine on each engine (both CFM and IAE)?. Are they the same shape? Andrew Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
feoffee2 Posted March 11, 2014 Author Share Posted March 11, 2014 As Mark mentioned earlier, all Revell A320 series kits come with A321 wings, depicting the double-slotted flaps.... Am gonna look into it thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gimme Shelter Posted March 11, 2014 Share Posted March 11, 2014 looks like an interesting project - have you a particular airline in mind for the finished bird? BA would look good of perhaps the old BWIA livery Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cuprar Posted March 11, 2014 Share Posted March 11, 2014 I think you may be better of using milliput to fill the gaps Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
feoffee2 Posted March 11, 2014 Author Share Posted March 11, 2014 I think you may be better of using milliput to fill the gapsI have some so will try it on the other side and see how they compare , is it stronger?Thanks looks like an interesting project - have you a particular airline in mind for the finished bird? BA would look good of perhaps the old BWIA liveryIt is between ba and the new american liveryThanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XV571 Posted March 11, 2014 Share Posted March 11, 2014 The engine strakes are not the same as a 319/320 also.Colin Interesting! I'd not noticed that- just an additional outboard nacelle chine on each engine (both CFM and IAE)?. Are they the same shape? Andrew Ahh, the engine nacelle strake conundrum... There are two sizes: large and small and various different configurations. From memory, the large ones are about 200-250mm tall; the small ones are about 100-150mm. Both are the same width. All A319s have two strakes per engine; the CFM56 has the small and the V2500 has the large version. The A320-100 didn't have strakes fitted at all. The A320-200 can have one or two dependent on engine sub-type, but if one is fitted it's only ever on the inner cowl; again the CFM56 uses the smaller version, the V2500 the large. A321s also always have two strakes per engine. As before, CFM56 equipped A321s have small strakes. V2500 powered A321-100s were originally fitted with small strakes but can be fitted with the larger version as a customer option. V2500 powered A321-200s always have large strakes. Mixing small and large strakes is not permitted. However, the aircraft Configuration Deviation List (CDL) permits operation of an aircraft with between one to all four missing (with performance penalties)! The inner ones are the most important since they provide more lift. Since they're not handed, an outer strake can be transferred inboard to reduce the penalty. I have some so will try it on the other side and see how they compare , is it stronger? Thanks It is between ba and the new american livery Thanks Milliput is much stronger and ideal for this task; it can be shaped with a wet finger after application, dries rock hard but can be sanded really smooth and has a longer work time than the Plasto. It also won't melt the plastic. I trust that you will be lining the inside of the gap with plasticard to support the filler otherwise it'll definitely be a tail sitter! Both BA and AA use the V2500 engine (therefore dual large nacelle strakes). BA A321s have wing tip fences (note that the kit ones are about 50% too small) and the AA ones are all Sharklet equipped. HTH, Jonathan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
feoffee2 Posted March 11, 2014 Author Share Posted March 11, 2014 Ahh, the engine nacelle strake conundrum... There are two sizes: large and small and various different configurations. From memory, the large ones are about 200-250mm tall; the small ones are about 100-150mm. Both are the same width. All A319s have two strakes per engine; the CFM56 has the small and the V2500 has the large version. The A320-100 didn't have strakes fitted at all. The A320-200 can have one or two dependent on engine sub-type, but if one is fitted it's only ever on the inner cowl; again the CFM56 uses the smaller version, the V2500 the large. A321s also always have two strakes per engine. As before, CFM56 equipped A321s have small strakes. V2500 powered A321-100s were originally fitted with small strakes but can be fitted with the larger version as a customer option. V2500 powered A321-200s always have large strakes. Mixing small and large strakes is not permitted. However, the aircraft Configuration Deviation List (CDL) permits operation of an aircraft with between one to all four missing (with performance penalties)! The inner ones are the most important since they provide more lift. Since they're not handed, an outer strake can be transferred inboard to reduce the penalty. Milliput is much stronger and ideal for this task; it can be shaped with a wet finger after application, dries rock hard but can be sanded really smooth and has a longer work time than the Plasto. It also won't melt the plastic. I trust that you will be lining the inside of the gap with plasticard to support the filler otherwise it'll definitely be a tail sitter! Both BA and AA use the V2500 engine (therefore dual large nacelle strakes). BA A321s have wing tip fences (note that the kit ones are about 50% too small) and the AA ones are all Sharklet equipped. HTH, Jonathan Excellent info I am gonna use milliput for the other side and also using plasticard and coffee things Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RocketSurgeon Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 Speaking of wing fences, does anyone have a scale drawing or the correct dimensions for those? I have an Austrian a321 on the workbench and I'm not sure how much bigger the fences should be... Thanks in advance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XV571 Posted March 15, 2014 Share Posted March 15, 2014 Here you go, measured off the actual drawing of the wing tip fence; note that the section above the wing tip is angled out about 10° from the vertical: 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
feoffee2 Posted March 16, 2014 Author Share Posted March 16, 2014 Here you go, measured off the actual drawing of the wing tip fence; note that the section above the wing tip is angled out about 10° from the vertical: Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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