dfqweofekwpeweiop4 Posted March 7, 2014 Share Posted March 7, 2014 I assume you mean "attach the upper wings to the fuselage" vice lower wings, but for my part, I assembled the wings first (wish I'd thinned them a little before gluing them, they seem a trifle too thick as is, and I think it would help when the time came to add the wingtips) and then glued them on. There was a small gap, but not a particularly bad one, and I filled it with Mr. Dissolved Putty, which is generally my go-to for wing-roots. * * Warning: not a master modeller. Indeed! Post amended, thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenshirt Posted March 7, 2014 Share Posted March 7, 2014 I second Procopius' assessment, albeit I didn't have any gaps to fill. It built very typically for a Spitfire kit other than the wing tips, and my lesson learned was to thin the trailing edge to nearer the tip's thickness where it attaches. Tim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveCromie Posted March 7, 2014 Share Posted March 7, 2014 Can't comment on accuracy re the AZ Mk IX but I found it went together really nicely, the wing tip "surgery" was accomplished without any fuss (bog standard razor saw) and after a quick blast with the sanding sticks both the kit supplied standard tips and my homemade "non standard extended tips" (from the schemes on the Rising Decal's Mediteranean Spitfires sheet) went on very easily. I can second the comments about thinning the trailing edge a wee bit before adding the tips and also the one about disolved green stuff/putty tidying up any gaps. The Joy Packs will be go to Mk IX in the future due to the cost, ease of build and overall quality - I just wish AZ would do some more of their HQT molded Spitfires in this format! DC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Test Graham Posted March 7, 2014 Share Posted March 7, 2014 Sadly the other AZ Spitfires are not HQT, for I could have been tempted by a Mk.VIII. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Procopius Posted March 7, 2014 Share Posted March 7, 2014 Sadly the other AZ Spitfires are not HQT, for I could have been tempted by a Mk.VIII. I think it's worth a try, even as a non-HQT kit. I had no real trouble with it, aside from the standard problem every AZ Spitfire I've ever built (five of them, I think) has, which is that the bottom of the instrument panel part doesn't fit properly and the sides of the little floor piece are too wide. (Please someone tell me I'm not alone on this.) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atvd1020 Posted March 7, 2014 Share Posted March 7, 2014 Sadly the other AZ Spitfires are not HQT, for I could have been tempted by a Mk.VIII. I would say go for it. I started on their Mk.VII (butchery included) and it's definitely a step up from their earlier ones (of which I have built two and am planning to start a third). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Navy Bird Posted March 8, 2014 Share Posted March 8, 2014 Sadly the other AZ Spitfires are not HQT, for I could have been tempted by a Mk.VIII. The AZ low-back Mk.XVIe kits are HQT. http://www.azmodel.cz/product_info.php?products_id=646 http://www.azmodel.cz/product_info.php?products_id=631 Cheers, Bill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aesthete Posted March 10, 2014 Share Posted March 10, 2014 (edited) I believe, it would be easier to convert the HQT Mk. IXc to Mk.VIII. At least, I am planning to do it this way, unless Tamiya or Eduard release a "perfect" Mk. VIII by that time... I think it's worth a try, even as a non-HQT kit. I had no real trouble with it, aside from the standard problem every AZ Spitfire I've ever built (five of them, I think) has, which is that the bottom of the instrument panel part doesn't fit properly and the sides of the little floor piece are too wide. (Please someone tell me I'm not alone on this.) Edited March 10, 2014 by Aesthete 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Procopius Posted March 10, 2014 Share Posted March 10, 2014 I believe, it would be easier to convert the HQT Mk. IXc to Mk.VIII. At least, I am planning to do it this way, unless Tamiya or Eduard don't release a "perfect" Mk. VIII by that time... I don't think it would be very difficult, although I believe the panel lines on the VIII wing are somewhat different than those of the IX/XVI wing. Hopefully one of the Spitfire experts will be in shortly to confirm or disprove that claim. EDIT: here we go: http://spitfiresite.com/2010/04/concise-guide-to-spitfire-wing-types.html/2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giorgio N Posted March 11, 2014 Share Posted March 11, 2014 I don't think it would be very difficult, although I believe the panel lines on the VIII wing are somewhat different than those of the IX/XVI wing. Hopefully one of the Spitfire experts will be in shortly to confirm or disprove that claim. EDIT: here we go: http://spitfiresite.com/2010/04/concise-guide-to-spitfire-wing-types.html/2 There are differences but nothing major: the Mk.VIII has shorter ailerons and there are panel lines for the wing leading edge fuel tanks. These take very little to sort... and actually the panel lines for the tanks are not present on some kits anyway. The retractable tailwheel is maybe the hardest part, but it's actually quite simple. I see that in the drawings linked the XIV wing is shown with full span ailerons, strange as these should be the same short span fitted to the Mk.VIII Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael louey Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 I actually bought an AZ Spitfire VII as the Italeri one isn't great and the Hasegawa one is almost impossible to find. I started it, so I guess I'll have to finish it, so I guess I'll find out how easy it is fixing the wing tips but I have a question for those who've built the AZ Mk VII or VIII, is it best to glue the lower wings to the fuselage before attaching the upper wings or best to assemble the wings fully before fixing to the fuselage? thanks Mike Hi Mike, I've built the Mk VII. It has been a while but I built the wing prior to attaching to the fuselage. I can't recall if there were fit problems but I suspect I filed back the wing roots on the fuselage parts. I prefer to have the wing all completed as a single unit in pretty much all cases. I expect that if the root isn't filed back until the test fit is ok, it may affect the dihedral of the wing. The guys are right about the wing tips - I noticed I hadn't blended them in as well as I thought after the final paint job. Here is the final result - http://www.aussiemodeller.com.au/pages/Gallery/Aircraft_I-O/Louey_SpitMkVII.html Cheers Michael Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter AZmodel/Admiral Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 (edited) Dear friends, watch this. Some here have a desire for more Spitfire in AZmodel HQT-up of metal forem.Ano Spitfire Mk.IX in HQT was very successful (all our other Spitfire family are only short-run), about the moment to be the best choice for a good and accurate model. And we continue ... We think about Spitfire Mk.VII, Spitfire Mk. VIII or Mk.XIV, XVIII. Are you interested? Please suggest that it is necessary to have previously. We assume a loose term for production in 2Q/2015. Or please suggest another option. Thank you very much for your suggestions and cooperation. Very best regards Edited March 12, 2014 by Peter AZmodel/Admiral Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CockneyCol Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 Hi Petr, How about a Spitfire Mk.V Joypack? there are so many options for this kit. Regards Colin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnd Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 I agree, the Mk.V is the biggest gap at the moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giorgio N Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 Boh the VII/VIII (there should be ways to make both from the same mould) and the XIV would be welcome. And a Mk.V would be welcome too, more so if a Mk.Vc is available. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dfqweofekwpeweiop4 Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 Dear friends, watch this. Some here have a desire for more Spitfire in AZmodel HQT-up of metal forem.Ano Spitfire Mk.IX in HQT was very successful (all our other Spitfire family are only short-run), about the moment to be the best choice for a good and accurate model. And we continue ... We think about Spitfire Mk.VII, Spitfire Mk. VIII or Mk.XIV, XVIII. Are you interested? Please suggest that it is necessary to have previously. We assume a loose term for production in 2Q/2015. Or please suggest another option. Thank you very much for your suggestions and cooperation. Very best regards Hi Peter, Like most modellers, I would be very happy if you made other Spitfires to the standard of your Mk IX's but please, when you design the kit, make it so we don't have to chop the wing tip off to fit the correct tips for the model. I would suggest the wings be on a separate sprue and that way, you could put the correct wing type (Clipped, Standard or Extended) in the box for that kit. Not all of us are good at cutting bits off and then making them look like there's no join! thanks Mike 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greycap Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 Hi Peter I would like to see a HQT high back mk 14c-e with the correct style wing as opposed to an 18 wing which I believe had some different panel lines. regards greycap/ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul J Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 Definite need for nice Mk14s high back and low! Also Mk.( F?).21 maybe?? In HQT naturally. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Procopius Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 The high-backed Mark XIV would be my number one desire, followed by the Mark Vb and then the Vc. But absolutely the Mark XIV first. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Denford Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 The high-backed Mark XIV would be my number one desire, followed by the Mark Vb and then the Vc. But absolutely the Mark XIV first.Agree, but any 'short run' manufacturer attempting, this risks 'having the rug pulled from under them' by Airfix. Curiously Xtradecal have already issued a number of sheets for the above.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dfqweofekwpeweiop4 Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 The high-backed Mark XIV would be my number one desire, followed by the Mark Vb and then the Vc. But absolutely the Mark XIV first. What's wrong with the Sword Spitfire Vc? I've built several of them and they're quite nice kits! I would suggest AZ do marks that Airfix are not likely to do, or ones by Sword. How about HQT versions of the Mk Ib, IIb, PR X/XI, I bet Airfix wouldn't bother with them in a hurry! thanks Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Procopius Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 I like the Sword Vc fine, hence putting it in third place; it'd still be nice to see joypacks of it someday. With respect to the more outre marks, I think an HQT, which of necessity should be something that sells well, might want to steer clear of them. Anyhow, the Ib and IIb could easily be covered by the Vb, as AZ previously did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spitfire31 Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 A voice in the chorus here for the PR Mk XI. Please! Kind regards, Joachim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dfqweofekwpeweiop4 Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 I think it would only be worth AZ doing a HQT Mk Vb, only if they do the Ib and IIb (out of the same parts) as well because Airfix are likely to do a Vb and that would seriously affect AZ sales. I'm sure they would get plenty of sales of a PR X and XI, especially if they can be covered by 1 set of parts (I can't remember the differences off the top of my head!). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter AZmodel/Admiral Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 Yes friends, watching everything. Truth be new Spitfire VB at full quality is needed. Can be produced from a single mold also Mk.Ib, Mk.IIb, Mk.Vb and HFMk.VI. You can also add Mk.Vc a Seafire Mk II and Mk III. Already have these types once did in the short-run. We have already experienced a lot of suggestions for improvements. Today our new HQT completely different quality. This we have several models to confirm. For a very good price and perfect quality very good and simple construction. We believe that our new Vb and all its versions find many satisfied customers. I discuss this proposal with our team. Very glad I will inform you. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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