bexwh773 Posted February 19, 2014 Share Posted February 19, 2014 still nothing my end? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mozzy19 Posted February 19, 2014 Share Posted February 19, 2014 Hmmm. Nothing my end either now 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antonioces Posted February 20, 2014 Author Share Posted February 20, 2014 Sorry, the error is corrected. Antonio 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antonioces Posted February 20, 2014 Author Share Posted February 20, 2014 In fact the second one is done... What do you think? Keep them?? Greetings Antonio 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bexwh773 Posted February 20, 2014 Share Posted February 20, 2014 Now those photos were worth waiting for!!! SUperb work my friend Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antonioces Posted February 20, 2014 Author Share Posted February 20, 2014 Now those photos were worth waiting for!!! SUperb work my friend Thanks Becky... Are they worth to be kept or should I put the resin ones??? Greetings Antonio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mozzy19 Posted February 20, 2014 Share Posted February 20, 2014 Keep them. It would be a shame for you to put all that effort into them and then leave them. Especially when they look that good. Sean Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hardtarget Posted February 20, 2014 Share Posted February 20, 2014 Can the E version be made from this i.e a Vietnam USAF or IAF F-E? If so which parst do i need to omit/use. I have a couple and one with no decals. TIA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antonioces Posted February 20, 2014 Author Share Posted February 20, 2014 Can the E version be made from this i.e a Vietnam USAF or IAF F-E? If so which parst do i need to omit/use. I have a couple and one with no decals. TIA I thinks that the F model is a late F-4E I mean post Vietnam... one of the changes must be the chaff/flare dispenser located in the outer wing pylons... the other one is the front cover of the Gatling gun. In Vietnam this was generally shorter than in the post war phantoms (although I think some Vietnam phantom already have the long one at the en of the war). Also the late F-4f has the capability of launching AMRAAM and in the vietnam war they use sparrow model C I think. But I don´t consider myself an expert but I think those were the main changes... besides the cockpit panels. Anyone has more info? Andre? Greetings Antonio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antonioces Posted February 20, 2014 Author Share Posted February 20, 2014 Keep them. It would be a shame for you to put all that effort into them and then leave them. Especially when they look that good. Sean Thanks Sean I think they came out pretty well... let me put a picture of the one I did side by side the resin one for comparison only... Greetings Antonio 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
troschi Posted February 20, 2014 Share Posted February 20, 2014 (edited) The F-4F for Germany was basically a simplified F-4E. Mainly the AN-APQ-120 radar was simplified without the capability to fire AIM-7 Sparrows and the fuselage tank no.7 was left out. Moreover in their initial delivery status they could neither carry any nukes, nor AGM-65 Mavericks, nor AGM-45 Shrike nor AGM-62 Walleyes. 175 were built in total and all were tranferred in-flight from the US to Germany. Later, from 1980 onwards they were upgraded to fire Macericks, AIM-9L Sidewinders and they got a AN/ALE-40 flare dispensers. 110 F-4F were upgraded from 1991 to 1996 to F-4F ICE. The upgrade consisted of a new Hughes AGP-65 radar to fire AIM-120 AMRAAMs. Further modifications covered the navigation system, computer avionics and RWRs. Distinctive feature of F-4F ICE was the tan coloured radome. Edited February 20, 2014 by troschi 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Creepy Pete Posted February 21, 2014 Share Posted February 21, 2014 Biggest difference would be the slotted stabilizers on the F-4E vs non-slotted on the F-4F. Other than that, they are fairly identical externally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hardtarget Posted February 21, 2014 Share Posted February 21, 2014 Biggest difference would be the slotted stabilizers on the F-4E vs non-slotted on the F-4F. Other than that, they are fairly identical externally. I gather these are not in the kit as an option? How do i go about creating the stabilisers? AM parts around? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antonioces Posted February 21, 2014 Author Share Posted February 21, 2014 Hi my work continues after some minor interruptions... I start to upgrade the kit's cockpit with some scratch using as reference some resins pictures I found in the internet... Using evergreen, masking tape and stretched sprue I'll try to replicate all this details... first pictures...I already painted it in aircraft gray as interior base color... As the paint began drying I started the side panels... first marking the boundaries of the cockpit tube and then gluing some plastic sheets... After finishing the details I also paint them with the same base color - aircraft grey... Greetings Antonio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bexwh773 Posted February 22, 2014 Share Posted February 22, 2014 AFter all the hard work with the scratch building, keep the scratch built seats!!! That cockpit is a great start Bexy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shalako Posted February 22, 2014 Share Posted February 22, 2014 Love those ejection seats!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antonioces Posted February 23, 2014 Author Share Posted February 23, 2014 Love those ejection seats!!!!! Thanks Shalako, actually the original seats colaborated s lot.... They are quite good and their shape is pretty accurste. Greetings Antonio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antonioces Posted February 25, 2014 Author Share Posted February 25, 2014 Hi this is the final result of the cockpit tub already painted and weathered... Greetings Antonio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antonioces Posted February 26, 2014 Author Share Posted February 26, 2014 Hi all... tonight I got a free night of modelling... however yesterday I managed to finish the lateral panels of the phantom cockpit... the description of the process is the following... First, all is covered with base color - aircraft gray... Second pre-shadowing with very thinned black paint--- sorry I don't have the pictures.... And third apply different layers of paint to bring depth and details for the different knobs, wires and buttons... During the hole process I checked constantly the fit and looks of the hole cockpit (including its cockpit tube)... Next I have to do the cables and wires that shows between the two seats (the ones that comes behind the RIO front panel) and the ones that go behind the RIO's seat... Well, this is all for tonight I hope you guys like the advances on this Rhino... thanks for watching... Greetings Antonio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troffa Posted February 27, 2014 Share Posted February 27, 2014 Lovely work on that cockpit, coming along nicely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kwaterous Posted February 27, 2014 Share Posted February 27, 2014 That cockpit looks great, If I may suggest a scheme, go colourful, orange tail or red and yellow stripes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antonioces Posted February 27, 2014 Author Share Posted February 27, 2014 Lovely work on that cockpit, coming along nicely. Thanks troffa... Tonight I'll finish the cables and wires and I'll post them tonight... Greetings Antonio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antonioces Posted February 27, 2014 Author Share Posted February 27, 2014 That cockpit looks great, If I may suggest a scheme, go colourful, orange tail or red and yellow stripes Thanks kwaterous... Scheme noted... The Orange tailed is one of my favourites together with the skark mouthed... Greetings Antonio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Val Posted February 28, 2014 Share Posted February 28, 2014 ahhhh Phantom's The RAF should still be using these aircraft just because they are soooo beautiful!! You're doing an excellent job, loving this build thread! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JosephLalor Posted February 28, 2014 Share Posted February 28, 2014 RAL 6014 is not the same colour as Humbrol 155. Humbrol 75 is better. Some say that Revell 42 or maybe Revell 46 can go (to greenish for me). Xtracolour has released an gelboliv - X251 and that may be usefull (I have not seen it). Xtracolor X251 is a distinctly brown representation of RAL 6014 - a greenish brown rather than a brownish green, if you like. Joseph Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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