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Am I correct in thinking this is the one displayed in a black/grey/white scheme or am I mixing up my Flanker variants?

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Am I correct in thinking this is the one displayed in a black/grey/white scheme or am I mixing up my Flanker variants?

Yup.

Here's my conversion of the old Airfix Su-27 into the new version - which is a Su-35S btw, not a Su-35.......

su-35_043.jpg

Great news from Hasegawa :thumbsup:

Ken

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Yup.

Here's my conversion of the old Airfix Su-27 into the new version - which is a Su-35S btw, not a Su-35.......

su-35_043.jpg

Great news from Hasegawa :thumbsup:

Ken

Thanks Ken. Tidy job there using the old Airfix kit. Let's hope the Hasegawa kit isn't a scary price around these parts.

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Does anyone know which of the Su-35s this will be, are there not about four different variants (two types of export, production Russia and the Russian prototype which had thrust vectoring)?

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Does anyone know which of the Su-35s this will be, are there not about four different variants (two types of export, production Russia and the Russian prototype which had thrust vectoring)?

Que ?? Listen carefulleeee I shall say theees only once......

There are TWO Flankers designated Su-35.......

The old Su-35 (T10M) - with canards and tall, square-tipped fins - only 15 were built (701 to 712 prototypes + 3 'production')

One (711) was converted into the Su-37 - with TVC nozzles. It lost its TVC and reverted to being a Su-35 before it crashed.

All of the above are no longer is use - they were a one-off development by Sukhoi and nerver actually entered service.

The new Su-35 (T10BM) is actually called a Su-35S (for Series - i.e. 'Production').

It is a major upgrade (radar, avionics, engines etc) with new-build airframes. It has no canards, but it does have TVC nozzles.

Two prototypes were built - 901 & 902 (as in my model) and the type is now entering service with the Russian AF in some numbers.

There are lots of visual differences between a Su-27 and the new Su-35S - most of which I incorporated in my conversion - see link above.

Links to some pics of the old Su-35...

http://cdn-www.airliners.net/aviation-photos/middle/5/9/8/0501895.jpg

http://cdn-www.airliners.net/aviation-photos/photos/5/9/7/1458795.jpg

(note:- 5 Su-35's were assigned to the Russian Knights but they never flew any displays with them - they are now rusting away at Kubinka)

http://worldsairforce.webs.com/photos/-Russian-Aircraft/su35_002.jpg

The sole Su-37....

http://www.surclaro.com/modules/Media_Gallery/gallery/Screenshots/FS2004/SU37.jpg

Links to some pics of the new Su-35S....

http://sohanews2.vcmedia.vn/2013/1361587937942-477eb.jpg

http://ptisidiastima.files.wordpress.com/2013/06/su35demo-copy.jpg

http://www.ainonline.com/sites/default/files/uploads/996_dsc6233_0.jpg

Here endeth the lesson - I hope you are taking notes, questions will be asked later :coolio:

Ken

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Great news.

I think I`d be happy with three of them.

One (711) was converted into the Su-37 - with TVC nozzles. It lost its TVC and reverted to being a Su-35 before it crashed.

Hi Ken: A year ago or so when I was gathering information for a SU-37 I was building, I read that there were two SU-37 built (from T10M-11 and T10M-12) and that T10M-11 crashed in 2002. I couldn`t find any picture of both planes together though and didn`t find any info about the faith of the second plane.

Have you got any other information about this/these plane/s?

It would be very much appreciated

Adrian

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Great news.

I think I`d be happy with three of them.

Hi Ken: A year ago or so when I was gathering information for a SU-37 I was building, I read that there were two SU-37 built (from T10M-11 and T10M-12) and that T10M-11 crashed in 2002. I couldn`t find any picture of both planes together though and didn`t find any info about the faith of the second plane.

Have you got any other information about this/these plane/s?

It would be very much appreciated

Adrian

According to Yefim Gordon's Su-27 book, T-10M -12 - Bort 712 - f/ns 12-04 ended up at GLITS as 88 Red.

There are 3 photos of it as 712 in the book.

Much later 88 Red became 5 Blue when it was transferred to the Russian Knights at Kubinka - along with 4 other Su-35's (T-10M's)

Sadly they five T-10M's never flew as a display and they are rusting away on the far side of Kubinka.

Ken

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The nose wheel could be under breaking in the real pic and you never know the kit might come with two oleos.

Mine is on order regardless.

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Here's one 'at rest' wot I photographed at Zhukovsky in 2012 - note the relative position of the nose door and the nose leg....

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The prototype under tow.....

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.... and taxying.....

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It isn't a major issue - but it completely alters the Flankers 'nose down' attitude.

Also, the nose leg looks a little bare and spindly - it seems to lack the steering rams and actuators - but it's probably just a quickly-made display model from test shots, so I'll hold judgement until I have one in my hot sticky hands.

Ken

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Anybody got one of these kits in their hands for a review yet?

In English:

http://www.aeroscale.co.uk/modules.php?op=modload&name=Reviews&file=index&req=showcontent&id=10916

Google translate needed:

http://www.k2.dion.ne.jp/~konjyo/su27/hasegawasu35s/index.html

http://www.moxing.net/bbs/thread-47444-1-1.html

I have the boxing at home, not built but opened, and I basically concur with the Aeroscale review.

Typical Hasegawa molding. Nice thing is you get 2 seated pilots, ordnance to put on the pylons and 2 different positions for the thrust nozzles.

The Japanese link is pointing out a few mistakes, but I can live with them or correct them easily.

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Nose is too slender in elevation, radome separation line appears orthogonal to the ground rather than to the airframe waterline.  LERX are not sufficiently sharp radii'd and appear to join the forward fuselage at too shallow an index line (not enough nose protruding beneath) which means that the entire nose lower line needs to cant down another half millimeter or so ontop of what the real problem is: the NLG strut sit.

 

The nose landing gear is too skinny and joins the extension strut almost 2mm too low on the main strut (meaning it's too tall, relative to landing light placement) and as a result, the extension strut tilts up at about 30` when it should be nearer to 45`.  The entire strut needs to be moved forward a millimeter, so that the NLG door protrudes behind it.  Adjusting all of these will dramatically lower the nose but will then run you into the last and, IMO, greatest problem: the canopy bulge.

 

The entire sit of the forward fuselage is produced as if taken from an aircraft in flight with the nose too upright/level.  To make this seem natural, the cockpit canopy is raised too high in elevation and looks to be too short by at least 1-2mm (this could be optical illusion as the canopy clearance over the pilot is really extreme).

 

The whole 'big transparency, small nose, rocked back on it's haunches' look is very similar to the older Hasegawa Su-27 and was wrong then too, giving this 40-50 dollar kit a bobble headed appearance.

 

Hard to believe that the Zvezda and Trumpeter have aced Hasegawa but that's the way it looks to me.

 

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