Shalako Posted January 10, 2014 Share Posted January 10, 2014 Nice work so far Jonners. I have been asking (myself) the same question about the SEA colours for quite some time now. The Belgian Air Force SEA colours also present different shades from the standard ones. You can also notice this difference on some F-100s and B-57s when looking at Vietnam era photos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caerbannog Posted January 10, 2014 Share Posted January 10, 2014 Nice build Jonners Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomjw Posted January 10, 2014 Share Posted January 10, 2014 I am certainly enjoying watching your 'taming this beast' of a kit. Tom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Kunac-Tabinor Posted January 11, 2014 Author Share Posted January 11, 2014 Many thanks for the camo links chaps. So while I ponder colours, Ive been adding a few details - mainly vents and grills, plus the landing light under the nose and some rescribing of panel lines You can also see in this pic the rear fuselage widening wedge I added - which allows me to add the rear clamshell burner can after painting. The DEFA cannon access panels have a big grill vent at the rear of each, so some etched grill was cut to shape, a recess to match chiselled into the panel then the etch piece dropped in and fixed with CA. Sounds simple when you say it, but the first one took about an hour and a half to do this morning!! Tail has the parachute cable attachment fairing added under the rudder, plus the other fairing above close to fin top ( I cant quite work out if this a light or an avionics fairing with a light on the end). It still needs its rear tip adding. Tailplanes are cleaned up and their variable incidence cover plates are cleaned up thinned and added Main landing gear work also started - new oleos added, the scissor links will be rebuilt from plastic card Busy, busy, busy!!! Jonners Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Kunac-Tabinor Posted January 12, 2014 Author Share Posted January 12, 2014 Cockpit front coaming and windscreen work yesterday /today: First some detail is added to the front - wiring mostly plus some extra bits of plastic card to give a "busy" feel. The windscreen has an internal rim added from plastic strip too. The internal canopy frame is masked, and a symphony of blacks applied Once the gunsight lens is added, windscreen can go on, and I can mask and prime ( later today with luck) Cheers Jonners Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HAMP man Posted January 12, 2014 Share Posted January 12, 2014 Now it's a symphony in black! Nice..no spectacularly nice work on the pit and screen, I've tried to do stuff like the vent work and then b***s it up with cack-handed painting! You make it look like a Tamagawa shake and bake, top notch, as always Cheers Strickers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMCS Posted January 12, 2014 Share Posted January 12, 2014 Looking forward to this one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Kunac-Tabinor Posted January 12, 2014 Author Share Posted January 12, 2014 Thanks Gang - I'm having fun with this one. Jonners Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viking Posted January 12, 2014 Share Posted January 12, 2014 Nice work Jonners, I have always thought the FM kits separate the men from the boys! (That's why I never built one!) Cheers John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Kunac-Tabinor Posted January 12, 2014 Author Share Posted January 12, 2014 Nice work Jonners, I have always thought the FM kits separate the men from the boys! (That's why I never built one!) Cheers John Not sure about that mate - perhaps the sensible from the insane ! Anyhow.... just in case you are wondering what the scheme will be... Here's a better view of the cannon bay vent work, plus the weapon of choice for such work: The micro chisel And finally for the day - I did manage to get the Mr Surfacer 1000 on My old coat hanger wire holder continues to give good service - and is indispensable in these situations for making bespoke hanger/holders when priming. I can already see a few areas that need attention, but thats the point of primer coat one. Cheers jonners 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattlow Posted January 12, 2014 Share Posted January 12, 2014 Nice work on a good looking aircraft... Matt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pacificmustang Posted January 13, 2014 Share Posted January 13, 2014 nice work on the chiselling Jon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caerbannog Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 nice work on the chiselling Jon yes - I second that. Rene Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giorgio N Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 Good work on this one ! Regarding the paints used, these were not exactly the same of the SEA scheme, although they were close. The darker green too differs as it's a bit darker and browner than the USAF one I should have a list of the correct colours somewhere, will try to dig the info from the various books and magazines. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Kunac-Tabinor Posted January 15, 2014 Author Share Posted January 15, 2014 Good work on this one ! Regarding the paints used, these were not exactly the same of the SEA scheme, although they were close. The darker green too differs as it's a bit darker and browner than the USAF one I should have a list of the correct colours somewhere, will try to dig the info from the various books and magazines. Cheers Giorgio - Im wondering if the USAF colours would be "close enough for Government work", as they say, on this model - especially after I've weathered into them Jonners Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giorgio N Posted January 16, 2014 Share Posted January 16, 2014 Cheers Giorgio - Im wondering if the USAF colours would be "close enough for Government work", as they say, on this model - especially after I've weathered into them Jonners To be 100% honest, that's probably what I would do.... Found the info but they are for the F-100 and I'm not sure they had the same scheme... for the darkest colour this is actually listed as a brown ! But again, this was on the F-100. The darker colour on the SM-B2 looks green to me, although it is indeed a browner green IMHO compared to the USAF colour, maybe a dark olive drab would be a good choice ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Kunac-Tabinor Posted January 17, 2014 Author Share Posted January 17, 2014 To be 100% honest, that's probably what I would do.... Found the info but they are for the F-100 and I'm not sure they had the same scheme... for the darkest colour this is actually listed as a brown ! But again, this was on the F-100. The darker colour on the SM-B2 looks green to me, although it is indeed a browner green IMHO compared to the USAF colour, maybe a dark olive drab would be a good choice ? Bizarre Giorgio - I pulled out the Xtracrlix colours and some olive drab too - thinking it would be a good modifier for the darker green!! I think this is a "looks right" colour job, rather than a match paint to specs thing. Cheers Jonners Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Kunac-Tabinor Posted January 18, 2014 Author Share Posted January 18, 2014 OK I just noticed that the wing dog teeth slat leading edges should cant down further - so their leading edge is lower than the inner wing. Its quite noticeable - and adds to the Mystere look. Amazing what you don't see when you stare at something for ages isnt it!! Its out with the CA & talc again, and while Im there I think I'll add the wing lights too.... Jonners Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Kunac-Tabinor Posted January 18, 2014 Author Share Posted January 18, 2014 So - the leading edge of the dog tooth is masked underneath with tape - so I get a nice clean filler to plastic delineation, then thick CA/Talc mix is applied on the underside, allowing it to just come forward of the leading edge a tad. The its carefully sanded to shape - bringing the top edge of the dog tooth down and blending it into the filler below....as the dog tooth heads towards the wing tip the downward angle is blended out. From the top you can see how the CA becomes the new lower leading edge. and head on - the effect is now to give the dog teeth the lower "droop" and downward cant I also added the wing tip lights , as you can see, and used CA/talc coloured with some SNJ aluminium powder to attach - so now the "inside" of the lights are silver. Bit of masking and a re-prime next. cheers Jonners Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colin Posted January 18, 2014 Share Posted January 18, 2014 Very cleaver fix with the dogs tooth and landing lights Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viking Posted January 18, 2014 Share Posted January 18, 2014 Thats a mighty clever way to fix the slats! And the use of SNJ/CA to attache the landing lights. Mental note made and stored away for future use..... Cheers John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Kunac-Tabinor Posted January 19, 2014 Author Share Posted January 19, 2014 I reckon I have paid my dues to the carpet monster for the YEAR!!! 2 hours making 4 wheel leg torque links, and one pings off into the abyss. What a massive set of capital letters in between Q and S!!! jonners - still searching ( in vain) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gingerbob Posted January 20, 2014 Share Posted January 20, 2014 (edited) Amazing what you don't see when you stare at something for ages isnt it!! Especially when it's thought to be in the vicinity of the carpet. When it comes to "photo interpretation" I heartily agree. But the corollary is that, having been made aware, and tried to tell yourself that it isn't important, it then shouts out at you when you look at the images. bob Edited January 20, 2014 by gingerbob 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Kunac-Tabinor Posted January 20, 2014 Author Share Posted January 20, 2014 Especially when it's thought to be in the vicinity of the carpet. When it comes to "photo interpretation" I heartily agree. But the corollary is that, having been made aware, and tried to tell yourself that it isn't important, it then shouts out at you when you look at the images. bob Im normally pretty good at finding lost bits too, but this one has slipped through a wormhole into a parallel universe. And yep I heartily agree. How many "simple" builds have I started only to latch on to some detail that I just can't not have on a model - Lansen gun ports, Sea Fury exhausts, Gladiator engine bracing rods. I should just build bloody models!! jonners Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Kunac-Tabinor Posted January 23, 2014 Author Share Posted January 23, 2014 Right , I applied an underside coat of Tamiya XF-19 sky grey yesterday ( which shows as a match for FS36622 Light Gray - the SEA undercolour), but it seems a bit dark. Looking at Mystere pics and a few 'Nam USAF aircraft the colour seems much lighter than this. Was it just one of those greys that takes on a different tone easily in different lighting conditions, or was it lighter than my match suggest? Jonners Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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