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Il-28 Beagle 1/48; questions (HPH; Bobcat related)


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More pictures: Part, armament and target towing.

 

Here is the bomb bay looking rearwards. The style of these drawings is almost identical to those you can find in EE Canberra's technical description...

 

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The bomber version carried two 30 mm NR-30 automatic cannons in the nose. The reconnaissance version had only one (on the port side). As all shell cases, links and MISFIRED grenades were collected in a box just inches away from the navigators right foot, most navigators refused to fly with starboard cannon installed (in NH-1).

 

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This is the BLM-1000M target towing winch attached in the bomb bay of NH-4. Note that either the winch or the camera equipment is installed at one time.

 

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This is the cable guide running at the fuselage bottom all the way down from the bomb bay into the towing tail.

 

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A close up of the towing tail showing a soft target (sleeve) attached on the plate. As my hand written note says, the full ammunition load for the rear guns is 180 kilograms!

 

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Slightly different towing tail: this time for hard targets (kite). Note also the two yellow "PELASTUS" ("RESCUE") arrows close to the gunner's windows. The rear window was 60 millimeters thick. The effect is the same as in Phantom's wind shield: the front panel is made of laminated glass and looks blueish or greenish when compared with the plastic quarter panels.

 

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These two photos were shot by a fellow navigator Jussi Sistonen. Engineering Lieutenant is ready for a target towing mission manning the rear seat.

 

A close up of the towing tail showing the dark red plate for soft targets.

 

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Antti

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Here's the huge Soviet built target kite. It was painted with red and white stripes.

 

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And this is how it looked behind the plane.

 

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Jordi, I expect you have a busy weekend with the Bobcat kit😉

 

Have fun!

Antti

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Yes, unfortunately the photos aren't that good and my scanner made things even worse. The cable runs through that triangular thing you can see on the starboard bomb bay door.

 

I think the kite will draw attention when you place it side by side with plane. Competition judges may have it hard to find which one is the actual model to judge😄

 

Kind Regards,

Antti

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On 5/22/2019 at 5:18 PM, 28ZComeback said:

Has anyone done a side by side comparison between the HPH kit and the Bobcat masterpiece? Thank you.

hopefully soon!

 

but detail whise, the HPH kit is full of high qualitiy resin and PE  for, cockpit, engines, bomb load etc..., so kinda includes the aftermarket already..... 

hard to compare I guess!

 

see e.g. here

http://modelweb.modelforum.cz/2013/05/21/148-iljusin-il-28-hph/

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Question-does anyone know when the PLAAF began camouflaging their Il-28’s? The photos I have of Il-28s and H-5’s are from the early or mid-sixties. I believe the Chinese received the Il-28 in 1952-53. Thank you in advance. 

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On 6/4/2019 at 5:05 AM, Jordi said:

Some sad news... I have a friend who knows Dmitri Malkov of D-Mold in Russia.  My friend floated the idea to Dmitri of doing Il-28R nacelle parts and possibly the target tow gear.  But sadly, Dmitri said he has no interest in it, and doesn’t think such a conversion set would sell (I disagree!).  

 

Can anyone think of anyone else who might be interested in producing such a resin set?  

 

Best regards to all

 

Jordi

Maybe one of the Czech resin specialists, like AIRES, would like to come to the rescue?

The target tow gear could be easily included in one of their resin accessories series, for example...and Finnish stuff is popular.

The nacelles are of course bigger, but, looking at the kit parts, you would only need the 4 bulged  "side" parts, as the big intakes are separate elements, so I suppose, they wouldn't be extremely expensive...

 

Greetings

 

Diego

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14 hours ago, Jordi said:

Hi Diego

 

Actually if you look at good close up photos, the bulge actually continues forward almost to the position of the landing light on the forward part of the cowling.  So to do the R absolutely right, you would need 8 new nacelle pieces and 4 new main gear doors.

Hi Jordi,

In this case, we need to bother Bobcat Models, asking for a new, correct R release - I guess, there could be chances that this happens :)

 

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Hello Jordi and Diego,

 

then of course we need new main wheels as well. I mean if someone is going to do new nacelles and MLG doors then it would be nice to have in the same delivery. And that towing equipment🙂

 

Antti

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On 6/4/2019 at 6:05 AM, Jordi said:

who knows Dmitri Malkov of D-Mold in Russia.

But as far as I heard, he emigrated from Russia to the USA a long time ago.

On 6/4/2019 at 6:05 AM, Jordi said:

Can anyone think of anyone else who might be interested in producing such a resin set?  

NeOmega?

Katran?

Complect ZiP? 

Armory?

Pavla?

Tempmodels?

NordStar?

Cold War Studio?

e.t.c, e.t.c...

 

B.R.

Serge

 

 

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Having bought the Bobcat kit and thinking of building a Finnish one, I found this thread. I have read that Finland had one bomber and three Il-28R. Is that correct? Can the bomber be built from the Bobcat kit? And which one was the bomber? NH-1? 

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