exdraken Posted November 24, 2013 Share Posted November 24, 2013 (edited) Hello, I plan to build this "small" but very nice bomber, but not in chinese or russian markings.... does anybody know of any alternative decals for this kit? (czech ones for example?) http://www.prodejonline.cz/1588/5000%7C.d.HpH48019R.iljuschin-il28.html a second question concerns the IL-28R, what would it take to do a conversion? wingtip tanks, what else? thanks of all kind of help! Regards, Werner Edited May 25, 2019 by exdraken Bobcat models injection molded kit available now! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jennings Heilig Posted November 24, 2013 Share Posted November 24, 2013 Given the price and rarity if that kit you're not going to find any aftermarket for it, guaranteed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
upnorth Posted November 25, 2013 Share Posted November 25, 2013 While you might not be able to find any aftermarket aimed directly at that kit, most Il-28s had pretty generic markings limited to national markings and numbers. There are decal companies out there who make generic insignia and number sheets, so if you know what size you need it shouldn't be a problem to find markings to suit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marty_hopkirk Posted November 25, 2013 Share Posted November 25, 2013 Given the price and rarity if that kit you're not going to find any aftermarket for it, guaranteed. It's still currently available direct from source, so not rare in that sense. As Upnorth said it should be straight forward enough to cobble together from generic decals. It's lovely kit BTW. Marty... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jennings Heilig Posted November 25, 2013 Share Posted November 25, 2013 Not rare but I'd be surprised if they've sold 25 of them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trimmer Posted November 25, 2013 Share Posted November 25, 2013 bomber to photo recon conversion will require, apart from wingtip tanks and removal of starboard front cannon, the modification of engine pods. The R version had bigger main landing gear and corresponding bulge on bottom part of engine to fit the wheels. The remaining difference is mostly in the cockpit and bomb bay. In some subversions the aiming radar in a fairing below the pilot was also removed. Czech insignia is not that difficult to paint, may I suggest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don McIntyre Posted November 25, 2013 Share Posted November 25, 2013 While it may well be worth it's price, at close to $200 USD i'll have to give it a pass. I would have thought this one would have been a natural for Trumpeter. Having said that, at the price they'd likely charge it wouldn't be much cheaper than the resin kit... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trimmer Posted November 25, 2013 Share Posted November 25, 2013 in fact, the kit is a marvel, fantastic precision and attention to details. It's just in a completely different league compared to Trumpy mass market kits. Though too expensive to my wallet as well, besides not my scale, the value for money is definitely there. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exdraken Posted November 26, 2013 Author Share Posted November 26, 2013 thanks for all the tips! still thinking about doing one.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cossack52 Posted November 27, 2013 Share Posted November 27, 2013 i believe nigeria used these in the biafran conflict;the green and white roundels shouldn't be too hard to do Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marty_hopkirk Posted November 27, 2013 Share Posted November 27, 2013 (edited) in fact, the kit is a marvel, fantastic precision and attention to details. It's just in a completely different league compared to Trumpy mass market kits. Though too expensive to my wallet as well, besides not my scale, the value for money is definitely there. It's a brilliant kit, no idea how many have sold but when it made its debut at Telford if memory serves, it sold out - again if memory serves it was slightly discounted so that might have encouraged folk.Marty... Edited November 27, 2013 by marty_hopkirk 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troy Smith Posted November 28, 2013 Share Posted November 28, 2013 i believe nigeria used these in the biafran conflict;the green and white roundels shouldn't be too hard to do yep, great camo too more pics here http://kevsaviationpics.blogspot.co.uk/search/label/Il-28 or how about a Finnish Target Tug think this is Egyptian? The HPH kit looks incredible though! cheers T 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
upnorth Posted November 28, 2013 Share Posted November 28, 2013 You should also be careful not to choose a nation who uses the Chinese copy of the machine, as in the case of Romania. I think there were more than a few differences in vent configurations and the tail turret between the real Il-28 and the Harbin made copy and you don't want to put your self in the position of needing to convert a kit like the HPH one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiger331 Posted November 28, 2013 Share Posted November 28, 2013 While it may well be worth it's price, at close to $200 USD i'll have to give it a pass. I would have thought this one would have been a natural for Trumpeter. Having said that, at the price they'd likely charge it wouldn't be much cheaper than the resin kit... Here we go again..........I suspect the reason Trumpeter kits (and other Far Eastern hobby products) are so expensive is down to punitive US Import tax. We dont seem to suffer so much from that in Europe, even here in Norway where Trumpeter kits are not cheap but are still good value for money....in most cases. Better to spend your money on all those US-originated new mould 1:48 scale aircraft kits....Oh Wait !,.....I forget, there are none. Might I suggest expending more energy on lobbying the US manufacturers to actually produce some new kits and less on bashing the Far Eastern companies for anything and everyhting from accuracy to price and back again.....at least they are producing kits and sometimes get them right !. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiger331 Posted November 28, 2013 Share Posted November 28, 2013 It's a brilliant kit, no idea how many have sold but when it made its debut at Telford if memory serves, it sold out - again if memory serves it was slightly discounted so that might have encouraged folk. Marty... Yep....agree....I have one, got at a slightly discounted rate which brought it down to the level I would shell out for a Tamigawa with all the resin add ons etc. I believe they are on their third production run so would imagine the kit is selling well in spite of the whining emanating from the usual suspects. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Headroom Posted November 28, 2013 Share Posted November 28, 2013 You should also be careful not to choose a nation who uses the Chinese copy of the machine, as in the case of Romania. I think there were more than a few differences in vent configurations and the tail turret between the real Il-28 and the Harbin made copy and you don't want to put your self in the position of needing to convert a kit like the HPH one. The original batch were Soviet supplied and it was only a later top-up examples that came from China. Trevor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marty_hopkirk Posted November 28, 2013 Share Posted November 28, 2013 Yep....agree....I have one, got at a slightly discounted rate which brought it down to the level I would shell out for a Tamigawa with all the resin add ons etc. I believe they are on their third production run so would imagine the kit is selling well in spite of the whining emanating from the usual suspects. I had a feeling it must have sold reasonably well as I had to wait a little for mine, not sure were the less than 25 copies emanates from or what it is based on. Marty... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exdraken Posted November 29, 2013 Author Share Posted November 29, 2013 sent an them an email today inquiring about czech markings. HArd to believe that a Czech company does not provide them.... We'll see. Thanks again everybody! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jennings Heilig Posted November 30, 2013 Share Posted November 30, 2013 Here we go again..........I suspect the reason Trumpeter kits (and other Far Eastern hobby products) are so expensive is down to punitive US Import tax. Not remotely. Toy imports (under which model kits fall) are not taxed coming into the US. It's 100% the doing of the importer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don McIntyre Posted November 30, 2013 Share Posted November 30, 2013 No bash intended, and I've got a pretty good idea where most of the money goes for buying Trumpeter's kits here (a Company in New Jersey), but the fact remains, the prices stay high. As far as lobbying for those kits to be produced here, I've about given up. A significant percentage of my fellow Americans can't find Russia on a map much less have a clue what an Ilyushin is... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exdraken Posted April 23, 2014 Author Share Posted April 23, 2014 (edited) Got mine today! :) brilliant ! a big box full of resin and 2 PE frets a CD with a booklet of detailed Photo instructions, and a small Belgian Chocolate! now building a smaller resin kit for practicing, the Czech L-159A ALCA light attack aircraft (see my start in the In Progress forum) still looking for decals though.... Czech or smoething really fancy? or just the kit ones? Edited April 24, 2014 by exdraken Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radleigh Posted April 23, 2014 Share Posted April 23, 2014 It is a lovely looking kit, one I would love to get my mits on one day! I was gawping over the one at SMW... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trimmer Posted April 23, 2014 Share Posted April 23, 2014 Congratulations, Werner The kit looks like pure enjoyment to build, regardless that it's made of resin. Can't wait to see a WIP from you. How about replicating that mean looking VPAF "2210 red"? Dmitry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Cooper Posted April 27, 2014 Share Posted April 27, 2014 Quite a few of Egyptian Il-28s used to wear big unit insignias/crest on their forward fuselage, in the early 1960s. This had a form of a big black bomb (pointing downwards), with two stylized wings (inside the bomb) in yellow, and either a Cobra's head or that of an Eagle (depending on squadron; Il-28Rs wore insignia with the Eagle). But, at those times, the planes in question wore no camouflage colours, and no serials but letter-codes (for example: G, G1, G2 were Rs; V1, V2 etc. were 'vanilla' bombers). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jennings Heilig Posted April 27, 2014 Share Posted April 27, 2014 Photos????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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