Shane Posted April 13, 2015 Share Posted April 13, 2015 As for the BP Defiant by Airfix - I go by what I see on the shelves of my local stockists - Airfix may sell them but are they sold out of the stockists branches...and believe me I do talk to major model sellers Frankly I wouldn't believe you if you told me the sun rose in the east. EVERY kit smaller than 1/32 apparently doesn't sell at a vast number of entirely unidentified outlets and all the anonymous big retailers are disgusted that the manufacturers don't take your advice and still somehow survive not selling any kits We get it - you're Chuck Norris with a styrene gun. Imaginary. There are far too many other people posting here - almost everyone else in fact - who report the opposite to your repeated rants for you to be taken as anything but a deluded nutter. So...I'm probably banned, but it'l be better for my heart anyway Shane <==my real name 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted April 13, 2015 Share Posted April 13, 2015 Shane - you won't be banned for that, as your post contains a lot of verifiably correct facts, but I would ask you and everyone else to keep it civil and refrain from any (even veiled) personal attacks. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob Posted April 13, 2015 Share Posted April 13, 2015 (edited) A large Tamiya boxed spanner, may have just Jammed up HKMs works, if the July release date of their just announced 32nd scale FBVI is accurate Edited April 13, 2015 by rob 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fightersweep Posted April 13, 2015 Share Posted April 13, 2015 I don't think it will jam up HK too much, well not from my perspective anyhoo, as it's a B.Mk IV that I'm after. If HK release some later bomber variants, then I think they will get a fair share of the sales. I prefer the bomber variant myself, and find the variety of colour schemes available to the Fb variants a little dull. Just my opinion of course. Happy days for large scale Mosquito fans though! Regards; Steve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ali62 Posted April 13, 2015 Share Posted April 13, 2015 Well now that I have just seen the Tamiya announcement, I know where I think I will spend my money, and I am sure Tamiya will develop the MkIV, in the not too distant future, and as I have so much to do I can wait for the MkIV, maybe I may even build a VI while I wait. However I will still read and see the reviews and or more sprue shots before I make my mind up 100%, but for similar monetary costs I can only be swayed to the Tamiya kit. Ali Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colin Posted April 13, 2015 Share Posted April 13, 2015 If their other 1/32 kits are anything to go by same here, only good thing, HKM may now consider their selling price for the kit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted April 13, 2015 Share Posted April 13, 2015 That's thrown a spanner amongst the pigeons for the indecisive... we'll have to wait & see whether price, accuracy & quality become a deciding issue, or whether it ends up a decision of which brand you prefer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iain Ogilvie Posted April 13, 2015 Share Posted April 13, 2015 HKM may now consider their selling price for the kit. Hi Colin - that's down to the importers I think... Iain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colin Posted April 13, 2015 Share Posted April 13, 2015 Hi Iain, your correct, but HKM must have a selling price to them,so we will soon see what the importers mark up is then Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBOHMSS Posted April 13, 2015 Share Posted April 13, 2015 Major model sellers? Who? All the model shops I look at and visit and all the retailers I talk to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBOHMSS Posted April 13, 2015 Share Posted April 13, 2015 Frankly I wouldn't believe you if you told me the sun rose in the east. EVERY kit smaller than 1/32 apparently doesn't sell at a vast number of entirely unidentified outlets and all the anonymous big retailers are disgusted that the manufacturers don't take your advice and still somehow survive not selling any kits We get it - you're Chuck Norris with a styrene gun. Imaginary. There are far too many other people posting here - almost everyone else in fact - who report the opposite to your repeated rants for you to be taken as anything but a deluded nutter. So...I'm probably banned, but it'l be better for my heart anyway Shane <==my real name The sun does rise in the East...Not Chuck Norris - but I do kick rear end. And I do keep it polits and I am entitled to my opinion that is based on all that I see and to whom I talk with in the industry. If you don't lik it then don't read my posts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBOHMSS Posted April 13, 2015 Share Posted April 13, 2015 Great news then that Tamiya are releasing a 1/32 Mossie. Superb news in fact if they will be following their previous great 1/32 kits. However I imagine the price will be in a similar bracket as the HK - Again I am going on the prices of the Spitfires, Mustang and Corsair. It can't be much difference in the price range...The Corsair was in the £120bracket so the Mossie has got to be up there. Watch this space as they say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBOHMSS Posted April 13, 2015 Share Posted April 13, 2015 I think the glass fronted versions of the Mossie are the best so I will probably stick with HK - unless Airfix get their glass nosed version 1/24 released. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brewerjerry Posted April 14, 2015 Share Posted April 14, 2015 Hi maybe the tamiya will force the hk price down cheers jerry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick_Gannon Posted April 14, 2015 Share Posted April 14, 2015 (edited) The price will not change on the first release may be on the second. And it is unlikely that Airfix will do a bomber in their 1/24 version, too many changes to the tooling or the cost of extra tooling is too high. M&G Edited April 14, 2015 by Mick_Gannon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davidelvy Posted April 14, 2015 Share Posted April 14, 2015 If you don't lik it then don't read my posts. To be fair,I think he has to read your posts first in order to know if he doesn't like them. With regard to the Defiant, all this debate is based on anecdotal evidence. You speak to retailers who say they don't sell many Defiants, but Airfix will have based their decision on sales of the old kit, which has been a consistent seller. Going back to the Mosquito, I suspect the Hong Kong and Tamiya kits will be similarly priced so (subject to any preference to bomber or fighter version) the choice may come down to reputation. Maybe that's why Trumpeter/Hobbyboss release so many kits of aircraft no one else is offering? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albert RN Posted April 14, 2015 Share Posted April 14, 2015 The sun does rise in the East...Not Chuck Norris - but I do kick rear end. And I do keep it polits and I am entitled to my opinion that is based on all that I see and to whom I talk with in the industry. If you don't lik it then don't read my posts. Who do you talk to? Context is everything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shane Posted April 14, 2015 Share Posted April 14, 2015 The sun does rise in the East...Not Chuck Norris - but I do kick rear end. And I do keep it polits and I am entitled to my opinion that is based on all that I see and to whom I talk with in the industry. If you don't lik it then don't read my posts. *I* know the sun rises in the East. But on the basis of your other 'facts' your agreement would make me wonder whether I was wrong. Anyway....sorry to take you to task. We all have opinions; there's even an appropriate famous saying about it. I read your post because someone else quoted it, but over the years have read your contentions many times, so I know what to expect. You tell us that you're concerned about the health of the industry, so you *could* help your fellow Britmodellers, all your many shop owner friends and the manufacturers by posting a list of which shops have all these over stocked and under sold kits. That way, people who've missed out can get a Defiant, your hobby shop mates can sell some dead stock, and Airfix and the other 1:72 kit manufacturers will last long enough to (perhaps) release a kit for you! Shane Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBOHMSS Posted April 14, 2015 Share Posted April 14, 2015 Well I am pleased you know the sun rises in the east -I'd hate for you to think otherwise. As for taking me to task I have no cares - but this is a public forum - one where we are all allowed to make comment and have opinions. Getting personal is up to the individual - I have teflon shoulders that are very broad. As for talking to stockists I will not mention names but certainly my local Hobby Craft - Smiths/Modelzone (alas I do not have a local model shop anymore) have piles of Defiants and other Airfix kits that are not selling (yes I spoke to the buyers), before LSA finished he had no faith in the Defiant....I do not have to prove myself. If all the Britmodeller contributors like the 1/72 BP Defiant from Airfix... that still does not make for great sales world wide. However from my point of view I am not a fan of the kit and I am allowed to talk about it. Getting back to the Mosquito - Airfix did say ( a couple of their guys at Telford) that a glass nosed Mossie was on the cards - just when? For me the HK kit will be on the want list but I will wait for Lucky Hobby I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted April 14, 2015 Share Posted April 14, 2015 Will you lot stop willy-waving over who knows the most about how well the Defiant is selling? A few non-specialist shops with general assistants doth not a catastrophe make. Now move on 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick_Gannon Posted April 14, 2015 Share Posted April 14, 2015 (edited) If Airfix are going to do a glass nosed mossie why wait until now why did they not do it a build it into the original moulds? it would have made sence, as for Airfix at Telford saying it is on the cards but no details given, take that as under discussion with all other proposels, when costed out along with predicted sales it will be way down the list of things to do, don't get me wrong I would like one but can't see it happening. M&G Edited April 14, 2015 by Mick_Gannon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andrewfl290 Posted April 15, 2015 Share Posted April 15, 2015 Comparing the HKM B-25 and B-17 to the Tamiya Spitfires, Mustang and F-4 I have in my stash, to my mind (and this is just my opinion) I much prefer the finesse of the Tamiya kits, the detail is finer and much more delicately accomplished. What this means, for me, is that the HKM Mosquito will in all probability not get a look in over the Tamiya kit. However I do hope that I am not taken to task for voicing my opinion, I am also mindful that neither kit is out yet so direct comparisons cannot be made. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Fleming Posted April 15, 2015 Share Posted April 15, 2015 I'm not a huge Mossie expert, and nor am I a 1/32 fan but the nose and the nacelles on the HK kit don't look right Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albert RN Posted April 15, 2015 Share Posted April 15, 2015 Reminds me of the frog kit. It's not the same errors but just off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Cobbley Posted April 15, 2015 Share Posted April 15, 2015 There is a very good build of a test shot in the lastest issue (May) of Military Illustrated Modeller. Worth a read. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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