Fozzy Posted June 24, 2014 Author Share Posted June 24, 2014 aaaaarggghh hes at it again someone stop him pleeeeeese... hes making me feel like my attempts at modelling are ham fisted and amateurish!!:-D All in fun fozzy:-D supurb work as usual i cant wait for the next installment!:-) Cheers Dude...Crusty that is! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John_W Posted June 24, 2014 Share Posted June 24, 2014 aaaaarggghh hes at it again someone stop him pleeeeeese... hes making me feel like my attempts at modelling are ham fisted and amateurish!!:-D All in fun fozzy:-D supurb work as usual i cant wait for the next installment!:-) I kno how you feel, especialy as Oliver has started another helicopter build http://www.britmodeller.com/forums/index.php?/topic/234961066-super-frelon-heller-135-scale/page-4#entry1659782 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusty one Posted June 24, 2014 Share Posted June 24, 2014 I kno how you feel, especialy as Oliver has started another helicopter build http://www.britmodeller.com/forums/index.php?/topic/234961066-super-frelon-heller-135-scale/page-4#entry1659782 oh lordy lordy thats it im giving up modelling, someone give me another hobby to do!:-D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nigel Heath Posted June 25, 2014 Share Posted June 25, 2014 Yup, this is quite something isn't it. (statement, not question). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fozzy Posted June 30, 2014 Author Share Posted June 30, 2014 Hi to everyone and thank you for all your comments This update shows some of the detail I have done on the pilots side wall.....as like the other side wall the detail is only up to the back of the seats (which I am yet to think about scratching....gonna be a toughy that one!!!) The first photo shows all the bits and bobs that were on the pilots side wall...from suit heaters to the oxygen regulator......its about 2 days worth of scratch building............. I tried to get a close up of the panel light bulb I made which shows you the stupid lengths I go to for realism!! ...I got a clear plastic cocktail stirrer and put it very briefly under a lit candle to get the shape of the bulb!............. This next photo shows how I make the oxygen hoses....very thin fuse wire wrapped around a length of wire.............. .......and finally the next lot of photos show the side wall all put together............ Once again that's all for now. Coming up next is the central control box in front of the IP which houses the throttles...this might take some time so wont be around for a bit!!!! Thanks again for taking the time out to look at all this.... Fozzy 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perdu Posted June 30, 2014 Share Posted June 30, 2014 you take your time, just keep dripping more and more of this fabulous model as you go we'll wait well I will anyway fab stuff Fozzy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fozzy Posted June 30, 2014 Author Share Posted June 30, 2014 Thanks Bill! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete in Lincs Posted June 30, 2014 Share Posted June 30, 2014 Yep, Wot he said. Take your time, It obviously works! Equally obviously, As each throttle is moved, The corresponding engine should start. Jus' sayin'.... Regards, Pete 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wrivera Posted June 30, 2014 Share Posted June 30, 2014 Superb!!! for oxigen hoses you can use string guitar. It´s more easy. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kallisti Posted June 30, 2014 Share Posted June 30, 2014 I suspect for this scale he'd need Bass guitar strings! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fozzy Posted June 30, 2014 Author Share Posted June 30, 2014 Thanks for your input lads!...good stuff.... On the front of using guitar strings Wrivera....2 problems I think would arise....1. Guitar strings are blasted expensive...I should know I buy enough of them!!....and 2. Fuse wire conforms to the shape as you wrap it and requires no glue...whereas Guitar strings would need glue to hold it in place as it would spring off!!....unless of course I am mistaken! Cheers chaps! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perdu Posted June 30, 2014 Share Posted June 30, 2014 I suppose you could shape the geetar string round a former and flood it with stuporgloo When the corrosive fumes have dissipated and the cyano dried it would prolly hold its shape quite well. I use it to add stiffness without massive thickness to weakened appendages (U/C legs for instance, I had to use massive amounts of nasal tissue killer on my Black Cat to hold the puny legs together tightly) cue Fozzy stalking the stage at Glasto next year looking for discards... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kallisti Posted June 30, 2014 Share Posted June 30, 2014 The problem with guitar strings is the inner wire is VERY stiff and doesn't like to bend. Sometimes you can extract the inner wire and just use the wire wrapping, but its very tricky to separate them. I picked up a cheap set of guitar string on eBay from china for a couple of quids, including postage, so not that expensive and I got a complete set of 6 for that, although I only want the 3 lower ones as they have the wrappings. They are unlikely to be high quality for that price, but I'm not going to be playing them... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nigel Heath Posted June 30, 2014 Share Posted June 30, 2014 Yes, amazing work yet again. Fozzy is there a chance your model will ever be put on public display anywhere? I would love to look at it up close and personal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fozzy Posted July 1, 2014 Author Share Posted July 1, 2014 The problem with guitar strings is the inner wire is VERY stiff and doesn't like to bend. Sometimes you can extract the inner wire and just use the wire wrapping, but its very tricky to separate them. Couldn't you just anneal the strings? Anthony. Interesting subject we got here regarding guitar strings...thanks for all your input ...but I just have to say ...without sounding ungrateful for your suggestions!.....and please don't take this the wrong way.....but..... You suggest separating the wrapping wire from the inner wire on guitar strings...even though its difficult Kallisti ? !....and annealing the strings to make them more pliable Anthony?....very interesting ideas I have to say but .....why??....Fuse wire just wraps around anything without annealing and without any preparation or gluing for that matter...you guys should try it and see how easy it is sometime. Jeez......I do hope I haven't offended any one...it is not my intention 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fozzy Posted July 1, 2014 Author Share Posted July 1, 2014 Yes, amazing work yet again. Fozzy is there a chance you model will ever on public display anywhere? I would love to look at it up close and personal. Cheers Nigel......possibly in the future as I will be bringing it back to UK......but I have got to get it finished first!!!....so don't hold your breath 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianthemodeller Posted July 1, 2014 Share Posted July 1, 2014 (edited) Interesting subject we got here regarding guitar strings...thanks for all your input ...but I just have to say ...without sounding ungrateful for your suggestions!.....and please don't take this the wrong way.....but..... You suggest separating the wrapping wire from the inner wire on guitar strings...even though its difficult Kallisti ? !....and annealing the strings to make them more pliable Anthony?....very interesting ideas I have to say but .....why??....Fuse wire just wraps around anything without annealing and without any preparation or gluing for that matter...you guys should try it and see how easy it is sometime. Jeez......I do hope I haven't offended any one...it is not my intention Sometimes we just miss the obvious. Modellers are like Engineers - the simplest solution will always be discarded in favour of something very complicated and expensive! Fozzy - please accept my apologies for my lack of posts but, quite honestly, I am running out if superlatives! Edited July 1, 2014 by brianthemodeller 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kallisti Posted July 2, 2014 Share Posted July 2, 2014 I've tried both methods and to be honest it depends on the scale. For 1:32 I think you are right that fuse wire is a better solution, but for smaller scales or for finer detail, I think the guitar strings can produce a better result, for exampel I did it on my 1:35 Scimitar 2 build recently: This is what I was trying to represent: and this is the result using a #5 guitar string: I don't think I could have got it as fine as that by hand winding. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete in Lincs Posted July 2, 2014 Share Posted July 2, 2014 Last time I looked for fuse wire on one of those little cards in Wilkinsons I couldn't find any. Has everywhere gone to cartridge fuses & CB's/ trip switches ? Befriend a guitarist. Beg him/her for broken strings. Being cheap costs nowt! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fozzy Posted July 2, 2014 Author Share Posted July 2, 2014 Last time I looked for fuse wire on one of those little cards in Wilkinsons I couldn't find any. Has everywhere gone to cartridge fuses & CB's/ trip switches ? Befriend a guitarist. Beg him/her for broken strings. Being cheap costs nowt! I'm a bass guitarist and I ain't using my strings!!!! What I also use is wire that is wrapped around coils in old radios etc.....I took apart an old radio years ago and still using the contents to this day! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jürgen Posted July 2, 2014 Share Posted July 2, 2014 Hello Fozzy, I just read through the whole thread, better than go to the movies. I don't want to highjack your project or suggest spending any more time, but did you consider putting lighting into this masterpiece using micro-LEDs? Well worth and the lighting would make some of the detail more visible, detail into which you put this tremendous amount of attention and patience. It would still be doable and with so much cabling already in place, some additional wires wouldn't matter. This is a truly admirable project. Take care, Jürgen 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fozzy Posted July 3, 2014 Author Share Posted July 3, 2014 Hello Fozzy, I just read through the whole thread, better than go to the movies. I don't want to highjack your project or suggest spending any more time, but did you consider putting lighting into this masterpiece using micro-LEDs? Well worth and the lighting would make some of the detail more visible, detail into which you put this tremendous amount of attention and patience. It would still be doable and with so much cabling already in place, some additional wires wouldn't matter. This is a truly admirable project. Take care, Jürgen Hi jurgen Thanks for your kind comments and your input . I have toyed with the idea of putting in some LED's and I experimented by putting one in the front compartment to see what it was like.......but since then I have been thinking on the lines of not actually fitting the top half to the bottom so that all the detail I have put into this project will be seen! This is still an on going thought and it troubles me a bit I have to say but I don't have to make up my mind now...but soon I will have to make a decision cheers Fozzy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianthemodeller Posted July 3, 2014 Share Posted July 3, 2014 ..but since then I have been thinking on the lines of not actually fitting the top half to the bottom so that all the detail I have put into this project will be seen! I can see that would work for the cockpit but would it work to show off the detail around the waist guns and ball turret?!? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fozzy Posted July 3, 2014 Author Share Posted July 3, 2014 I can see that would work for the cockpit but would it work to show off the detail around the waist guns and ball turret?!? You and your little jokes Brian!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andy wood Posted July 4, 2014 Share Posted July 4, 2014 Befriend a guitarist. Beg him/her for broken strings. Being cheap costs nowt! Ahem...I play the guitar. I have 5 of them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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