trickyrich Posted April 21, 2014 Share Posted April 21, 2014 I just found this while looking up the subject as well. http://wp.scn.ru/en/ww3/f/97/244/0 I know it's the Wings-Pallet site but the photo looks right. The artist drawing is by Tom Cooper, would that be our Tom Cooper?? Seems the only issue is what were the exact camo colours. If it is then he'll have all the good goss on the subject. With my dislike of NMF (ok I can't do them) I would be almost tempted in a Iranian Camo F-86! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tailspin Turtle Posted April 21, 2014 Share Posted April 21, 2014 For the benefit of all, here's an article about the FJ-2/3 (Tommy Thomason's blog), which also has links to other useful information, and comments about kits. bob [Edit: one of the links was to an article about the different F-86 wings, but I'm afraid that it's been "disappeared". Does anyone know another way to that article? Edit again: Wayback Machine saves the day!] Thanks - I fixed the link. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enzo the Magnificent Posted April 21, 2014 Share Posted April 21, 2014 Even though there are decals being done for this I remain unconvinced. Has anyone actually come up with proof they were camo? I know it's the Wings-Pallet site but the photo looks right. The artist drawing is by Tom Cooper, would that be our Tom Cooper?? Seems the only issue is what were the exact camo colours. That was my source. Looking at the photo, I believe that Tom's choice of camo is likely, but I will be doing the desert scheme. I realise that it is wholly speculative and I will be stating that in my build. Next question - did Ethiopian Sabres actually fly in camouflage? There are a number of profiles of Pakistani F-104s which show them in a desert camouflage scheme, but I believe they only wore this scheme after retirement when they were used as airfield decoys. I wonder if the Ethiopian Sabres were in a similar situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Julien Posted April 21, 2014 Share Posted April 21, 2014 Thing was I have seen USAF reports about the bad state of the Sabres supplied to Iran. Maybe they did a repaint on the aircraft to make them look more presentable. I would really like to see more than one very grainy black and white shot before doing one. Not that I would dissuade anyone else from it. Have seen some cracking camo schemes on Japanese sabres, but again on grounded airframes. I am not sure Iranian sabres ever flew in camo, though there is one shot of a massively parted out airframe at a tech college which has tan paint on it, again not sure if it was a ground instructional airframe, test bed, decoy etc? Julien 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enzo the Magnificent Posted April 21, 2014 Share Posted April 21, 2014 I would really like to see more than one very grainy black and white shot before doing one. Not that I would dissuade anyone else from it. I totally agree. My choice is extremely speculative. Almost a what-if... Can I ask for a ruling on it from the GB hosts? Is it eligible for the GB? If not, then I'm going to build it anyway - I just won't enter it in the GB. I'll choose something else - I mean it's not as though there's a shortage of interesting colour schemes... Recently I have been entering stripy subjects in GB, so I will be building a very stripy Sabre... I'll also be building the Special Hobby F-86L in the boxart scheme of natural metal and International Orange as operated by the Californian Air Guard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Julien Posted April 21, 2014 Share Posted April 21, 2014 If you like stripy sabres then try these (1:48 tho!) Julien 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enzo the Magnificent Posted April 21, 2014 Share Posted April 21, 2014 If you like stripy sabres then try these (1:48 tho!) Oh my word! How stripy are they!?!?!?!? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Procopius Posted April 21, 2014 Share Posted April 21, 2014 I had no idea the Care Bears had an air force. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trickyrich Posted April 22, 2014 Share Posted April 22, 2014 If you like stripy sabres then try these (1:48 tho!) Julien Nyan-Sabre Cat! Oh my word! How stripy are they!?!?!?!? You have a thing for stripy aircraft at the moment! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazzio Posted April 22, 2014 Share Posted April 22, 2014 Wow... FU-124 is sure stripy and bright. Looks likes it would be right at home in Brighton!! FU-130 looks really cool too! Kind Regards Dazz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gingerbob Posted April 22, 2014 Share Posted April 22, 2014 I like that second one- seems quite unusual, and not in the usual way bob p.s. The Sabre has landed. Plenty of time to bury it in the stash before the GB starts up! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mozzy19 Posted April 23, 2014 Share Posted April 23, 2014 I totally agree. My choice is extremely speculative. Almost a what-if... :)Can I ask for a ruling on it from the GB hosts? Is it eligible for the GB?I don't mind you having a crack at it. I don't know what Paul thinks about it, but I'm sure he'll pop in with his opinion. Sean 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gingerbob Posted April 26, 2014 Share Posted April 26, 2014 (edited) Dear Sirs, I wish to register a complaint. For whatever reason- no doubt stemming from some cultural or mental deficiency- I have never been particularly interested in the F-86, let alone the Fury. The FJ-1 is a bit of an exception, since it still has one foot in the glorious WWII/ Mustang camp (and I have a thing about the first generation jets). But, for the purposes of this group build, that's beside the point. I did find myself with an F-86D after contracting a mild case of "Nifty Fifties" interest- you know, all those rather strange things rather fancifully imagined to be capable of stopping hordes of Russian A-Bombers. Quite why I then added a second F-86D I no longer remember- I can only assume it was a bargain- and was "the other boxing", with the parachute housing on the tail. But as for the "classic" day-fighter, hero of the Korean War, the nearest I came was a Monogram F-86F, which led to the acquisition of an ESCI Fury(ish), the better (I hoped) to create a narrow-winged E with, my dear, or so I remember lo these many years later. Needless to say, that's as far as I ever got on that project. Now, thanks to you rabble, I have purchased a Hasegawa F-86F-30, which I hope to turn into an XFJ-2 (see back about page 5 of this thread). I hope to transfer the leading edges/ slats from one of the Dogs- which leaves the F-86D kit needing a wing. Hmm, the F-86L was a D with the 6-3, slatted, lengthened wing- and a friend just happens to have the Hasegawa Sabre F.6 (pity the slats are welded closed)... [However, I also discover that Special Hobby is supposedly about to release a late-K with same wing configuration- and extended slats...] Meanwhile, trying to understand the evolution of the Fury side of the family has me wondering whether I could turn an FJ-4 fuselage back to an FJ-3... and another friend has an FJ-4 surplus, I believe... Now can you see the trouble you have caused?! bob p.s. In comparing the F to D wings, in addition to the discrepancy in sweep (see this article if you are interested in such things), I noticed that the ailerons were significantly longer on one kit versus the other, with the resulting change to the flaps, of course. I don't remember seeing any mention of the ailerons actually being altered along the way, but can anyone enlighten me one way or the other? Edited April 26, 2014 by gingerbob 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Procopius Posted April 26, 2014 Share Posted April 26, 2014 Hobbycraft's Sabre 6 has the 6-3 slatted wing with extended slats as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr B Posted April 26, 2014 Share Posted April 26, 2014 Interesting, Can an Avon Sabre be built for this g/b ? coincendently I took down a 1/32 Kinetic Sabre from on top of my shelf ...with a resin conversion for an Avon..... rgds mr b Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gingerbob Posted April 26, 2014 Share Posted April 26, 2014 Hobbycraft's Sabre 6 has the 6-3 slatted wing with extended slats as well. Sorry, I was talking 1/48th, and I suspect you're talking 1/72. bob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yeehah1 Posted April 26, 2014 Share Posted April 26, 2014 (edited) 26 04 2014 Tasty! Are those 'flashy Sabres' still available? Liam Edited April 26, 2014 by yeehah1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mozzy19 Posted April 26, 2014 Share Posted April 26, 2014 Interesting, Can an Avon Sabre be built for this g/b ? coincendently I took down a 1/32 Kinetic Sabre from on top of my shelf ...with a resin conversion for an Avon..... rgds mr b Yep. It was a variant so it's allowed. Sean Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Procopius Posted April 26, 2014 Share Posted April 26, 2014 Sorry, I was talking 1/48th, and I suspect you're talking 1/72. bob My apologies, I had no idea you were a heathen! Hisssssss Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mozzy19 Posted April 26, 2014 Share Posted April 26, 2014 My apologies, I had no idea you were a heathen! Hisssssss Now now. Just cos he uses a proper scale... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wez Posted April 26, 2014 Share Posted April 26, 2014 My apologies, I had no idea you were a heathen! Hisssssss No such thing although 1/72nd is my preferred scale... Now now. Just cos he uses a proper scale... ...I just don't believe there's one true scale, I build what I want in whatever scale it is, I don't intend to miss out on a decent kit just because it's in a perceived incorrect scale! For those of you who say it's too small, get some decent spec's or a magnifying lens and some good strong lighting, for those of you who say it's too big, get a bigger display cabinet or house!!! For those of you who say it looks ridiculous to display a 1/72nd kit against a 1/48th kit I say don't bother display them separately! Above all I say :bleh: ... :bleh: ... to scale fascists! Back to the topic in hand, anybody got a 1/48th Revell F-86D they want to flog 'cos plainly, I want to put the wings on a 1/72nd F-86E Wez the scale slut and heathen! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gingerbob Posted April 27, 2014 Share Posted April 27, 2014 (edited) My apologies, I had no idea you were a heathen! Hisssssss I like to think I hide it well. Above all I say :bleh: ... :bleh: ... to scale fascists! I consider myself a scale Socialist. (Strictly 1/48 for me- unless I feel like livin' large, in which case I go for 1/32, or get seduced by some cute little thing in 1/72.) bob Edited April 27, 2014 by gingerbob 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mozzy19 Posted April 27, 2014 Share Posted April 27, 2014 For those of you who say it looks ridiculous to display a 1/72nd kit against a 1/48th kit I say don't bother display them separately! Wez the scale slut and heathen! I was only joking... I'll build any scale as long as the subject takes my fancy... Now, does anyone have a spare set of 1/32 Hasegawa or Kinetic wings so I can kit bash them with the Trumpeter 1/144 kit to create a super glider thing.... Sean 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr B Posted April 28, 2014 Share Posted April 28, 2014 Yep. It was a variant so it's allowed. Sean thanks mate...I am also waiting your views over the Korean War g/b....could it be two for two ? rgds mr b 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Julien Posted May 1, 2014 Share Posted May 1, 2014 I totally agree. My choice is extremely speculative. Almost a what-if... Looks like it is not a whiffer! Check this post out on ARC some actual colour photos!!! http://www.arcforums.com/forums/air/index.php?showtopic=273043&st=20 This is one time I am happy to be proved wrong, tho it does mean another sabre scheme to add to the build pile! Julien 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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