Mottlemaster Posted September 11, 2013 Share Posted September 11, 2013 Here we have the 1973 boxing of the Airfix Dornier 217e and the 1978 217J . Built the 73 kit when i was around 13ish so probably the first time i saw it on the shelf of Eddys Toy Shop in Helston Cornwall (now sadly closed) Cant remember how long it took me but no longer than a day , and that was fully painted. Got both of these on Ebay for £5.00 for the two .Lots of parts off the sprue so not sure yet if all there however have my form just in case Both kits are 99.9 % the same so will be able to mix and match One big change between 73 and 78 was our understanding of what the average luftwaffe pilot looked like 1973 pilot 1978 pilot Any way i must get a tube of glue to keep it retro . This is going to be out of box and on supplied stands. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JOCKNEY Posted September 11, 2013 Share Posted September 11, 2013 Really great to see two being built. I might have bits for these so let me know if you are missing something so I can have a look, good luck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimJ Posted September 11, 2013 Share Posted September 11, 2013 The 1973 crew look like they could be aliens from an early episode of Doctor Who. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Col. Posted September 11, 2013 Share Posted September 11, 2013 Proper box art on the later kit. That's what made me pester mum into buying me one back then. The 1973 crew look like they could be aliens from an early episode of Doctor Who. Whereas the 78 crew look as if they could be extras from Alien 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mottlemaster Posted September 12, 2013 Author Share Posted September 12, 2013 Really great to see two being built. I might have bits for these so let me know if you are missing something so I can have a look, good luck Thanks Jockney for the offer . I will do a parts manifest tonight, but don't leave yourself short as one very wet Sunday afternoon you may feel the urge to build yours . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duncan B Posted September 13, 2013 Share Posted September 13, 2013 Had the Airfix Draughtsmen not seen real Germans prior to 1978, maybe they still believed all the wartime propaganda? I dare you to use the 1973 pilots, go on you know you want to. Duncan B 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enzo the Magnificent Posted September 13, 2013 Share Posted September 13, 2013 Cant remember how long it took me but no longer than a day , and that was fully painted. Same with me. And I thoroughly enjoyed it! Mind you I was a little bit overenthusiastic with the tube glue on the undercarriage legs, which melted at the top. On the positive side, it did give me my first taste of using alternative adhesive. Araldite soon solved the problem. Well... not exactly soon if you see what I mean. Araldite Rapid was at least fifteen years away... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mottlemaster Posted September 13, 2013 Author Share Posted September 13, 2013 Had the Airfix Draughtsmen not seen real Germans prior to 1978, maybe they still believed all the wartime propaganda? I dare you to use the 1973 pilots, go on you know you want to. Duncan B Yes Duncan i will most certainly be useing the pilots. They have been patiantly waiting in their box for over 25 years to be sent on a mission, it wouldn't be fair not to use them Same with me. And I thoroughly enjoyed it! Mind you I was a little bit overenthusiastic with the tube glue on the undercarriage legs, which melted at the top. On the positive side, it did give me my first taste of using alternative adhesive. Araldite soon solved the problem. Well... not exactly soon if you see what I mean. Araldite Rapid was at least fifteen years away... The concrete fortifications bult on the channel Islands Are so thick that, only now are they reaching their maximum hardness, very much the same time as your old Araldite. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mottlemaster Posted September 22, 2013 Author Share Posted September 22, 2013 These are hard kits to get started ,not because they are difficult kits to build but due to them being so different to the kits i have built over the past 20 years. I have now found the wright attitude to get started and that is to build them both absolutly out of the box adding nothing that i would not have had available 40 years agoapart from moden putty. I took the plunge with the construction of the stand which whent together without any problems ,infact it is such a good fit that no glue was needed Had an idea to pimp it up but thought better of that in case it detracted from the finished model. Bothe wing mounted fuel tanks have now been glued and filled . Think this took as long as it took me to the whole kit first time around . Lots of sink holes and ingrown seams to be filled. The cockpit was a joy to make with all parts fitting like a glove and now ready for a coat of paint The pit may look a little sparse but when the crew are seated im sure it will come to life. Upper wing sections have been glued to respective fuselage halfs . The idea behind doing it this way is to get as good a joint as possible on the top wing to avoid too much sanding as i recon replacing the raised rivets will be difficult. Very pleased with how they have come out as it looks to be a near perfect joine Going to get the interior and wheel wells painted with some RLM02 (enamel of course as Acrylic paint doesn't exist .) 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jessica Posted September 22, 2013 Share Posted September 22, 2013 Love that powder blue Airfix plastic! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sgt.Squarehead Posted September 22, 2013 Share Posted September 22, 2013 Had the Airfix Draughtsmen not seen real Germans prior to 1978, maybe they still believed all the wartime propaganda? I dare you to use the 1973 pilots, go on you know you want to. Duncan B I reckon they'd been watching 'Iron Sky'. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mottlemaster Posted September 27, 2013 Author Share Posted September 27, 2013 The first paint has been splatted on and things should come together a liitle quicker over the weekend. the crew are now firmly glued in possition and moral has been raised .The prone gunner has even managed a letter home to his girlfriend . Withe the Near competion of step 1 of the instructions it is clear that Dornier made a poor desighn of the cockpit as crew unable to see out of window . Unfortuantly Airfix have chosen to apply this mistake to their kit Have just finished the instrument panel which when in possition will be about 6 scale feet away from the pilot so he will never see that the dials are blank. to keep with the theme of obsolete the paper panel has been glued on with Cowgum 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John_W Posted September 28, 2013 Share Posted September 28, 2013 (edited) Those fuel tanks look like U Boats Edited September 28, 2013 by John_W 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mottlemaster Posted September 28, 2013 Author Share Posted September 28, 2013 Those fuel tanks look like U Boats When i first saw your post i thought "someone has had too much to drink" but just had a look at the picture and you'r right . Howabout that ,the Do217 was able to carry a load of two mini subs 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JOCKNEY Posted September 28, 2013 Share Posted September 28, 2013 I've never built this kit but always fancied it, I hadn't anticipated it being such a challenge, really looking forward to you showing these two who's boss. Good luck we are with you all the way Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
English Electric Posted September 30, 2013 Share Posted September 30, 2013 Those fuel tanks look like U Boats Looks more like a pair of 'Alfa' subs to me!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JOCKNEY Posted September 30, 2013 Share Posted September 30, 2013 Looks more like a pair of 'Alfa' subs to me!!!No they can't be "Alfa Suds" they would be a lot more rusty ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mottlemaster Posted September 30, 2013 Author Share Posted September 30, 2013 No they can't be "Alfa Suds" they would be a lot more rusty ! You have'nt seen them weatherd yet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JOCKNEY Posted September 30, 2013 Share Posted September 30, 2013 Good point well made MM, look forward to seeing them with the compulsory dustpan and brush for collecting the bits that drop off between uses. Seriously enjoying watching this build develop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Procopius Posted September 30, 2013 Share Posted September 30, 2013 A little belatedly, but I almost never laugh aloud, but "One big change between 73 and 78 was our understanding of what the average luftwaffe pilot looked like..." certainly did the trick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John_W Posted October 3, 2013 Share Posted October 3, 2013 A little belatedly, but I almost never laugh aloud, but "One big change between 73 and 78 was our understanding of what the average luftwaffe pilot looked like..." certainly did the trick. You mean they never looked like this? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Procopius Posted October 3, 2013 Share Posted October 3, 2013 Rather more like this, old boy, I should think: 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mottlemaster Posted October 3, 2013 Author Share Posted October 3, 2013 This is about as far as you can get from a post on LEMB (luftwaffe Experten Message Board) those of you who frequent it will understand!!! I have just googled Eduard Photo etch Luftwaffe whips 1/72 17,000 serch results. You mean they never looked like this? Rather more like this, old boy, I should think: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nigel Heath Posted October 4, 2013 Share Posted October 4, 2013 Cant remember how long it took me but no longer than a day , and that was fully painted. That's the way to build kits. Old Skool style. Don't forget to get some glue and paint on the carpet. I was ready with a quip about space aliens but see I was beaten to that long ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul J Posted October 4, 2013 Share Posted October 4, 2013 Crikey! I remember building one of those . My dad gave me one for christmas about 1960 dot!! It was in an earlier box than you show;the one with the split background and red stripe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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