Anthony Kesterton Posted August 23, 2013 Share Posted August 23, 2013 Fantastic work, on a model of a great ship. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Natter Posted August 23, 2013 Share Posted August 23, 2013 You really do make some stunning models Jorgen. This one is definitely worth a watch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
surfsup Posted August 25, 2013 Share Posted August 25, 2013 Tha t is some stunning Paintwork on display. The Wasa is looking fantastic under all that work you have put in.....Cheers mark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Humbrol007 Posted August 25, 2013 Share Posted August 25, 2013 Astonishing piece of craftmanship, Jörgen. Väntar med spänning på fortsättningen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martyn Posted August 25, 2013 Share Posted August 25, 2013 Gotta agree with every other posts, oh to be able to achieve paint finishes like you have achieved, superb Cheers Martyn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nigel Heath Posted August 25, 2013 Share Posted August 25, 2013 (edited) Any chance of bringing this to the UK when you come over for the Nationals? I fully expect it to be finished by November! I know it won't be the easiest thing to transport but it would be great to see the real thing... Anyone else agree? Edited August 25, 2013 by Nigel Heath Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bengalensis Posted August 26, 2013 Author Share Posted August 26, 2013 Thanks a lot guys. I'm really glad you like her as I have never considered myself to be a very skilled painter when it comes to this type of paint work. But I have actually tried to build subjects over the last two years or so that should push me much more in that direction. So hopefully I'm learning. Bringing her to UK... Well that was a brave idea. I fear she may be difficult transport inside my house when finished, but who knows. I fitted the deck guns. Or rather I have fitted the number of deck guns that Airfix supply. I have opened up the two missing gun holes on the upper deck towards the stern, so I really need to find two more. I looked at the guns from one of my Revell kits, as it won't need them all with my plans for it, but they are no good match for Airfix guns. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
studiojohn Posted August 28, 2013 Share Posted August 28, 2013 Stunning paintwork. Liked your wood finishing technique. Have just started drawing the ratlines for production in etch for those who don't want the job of tying up their own. I am basing the ratlines on the Revell kit and not the Airfix kit so not sure if the result will be good for both yet! I suspect that given the time you have spent on the detail so far you will probably be fabricating the ratlines yourself anyway! Please finish the build off as you have started. John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bengalensis Posted August 28, 2013 Author Share Posted August 28, 2013 John, that sounds great! I think the right way to go is to do any photo etched and/or resin Vasa parts for the Revell kit, as it's rescent and certainly more accurate. I just wish it was a bit sharper in it's fine detail mouldings... I will definitely get a set of whatever you produce for Vasa, I have two Revell kits to do. I somehow doubt that ratlines fitting Revell will work on Airfix, but I will check that any day now, as I'm about to fit the masts. I will then take the Revell rat lines and see how they match up, just out of curiosity if nothing else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seadog Posted August 28, 2013 Share Posted August 28, 2013 The first of those is that the "things the rat lines/shrouds" (I'm useless at nautical terms in english...) Deadeyes....two, one above the other and joined by a lanyard, lighter line. PE shrouds? Eek! But I'll reserve judgement till I see what they come out like . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bengalensis Posted August 28, 2013 Author Share Posted August 28, 2013 Deadeyes, well yes, a Google picture search show a number of the things I mean. I tried to improve the painting a bit of the "things" that the ratlines attach to. Still not perfect, but given the limitations of the kit parts, and the fact that many attachment points for a full rigging are simply not present, these will have to do for this project. It's still better than I had hoped. I have fitted the bow sprit now, and have a little touch up painting to do around its attachment point. Hopefully the main masts will go on tomorrow. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister Surveyor Posted August 28, 2013 Share Posted August 28, 2013 Lovely modelling, Jorgen! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jessica Posted August 28, 2013 Share Posted August 28, 2013 (snip)...the "things" that the ratlines attach to. (.snip) They're called the Chains. They're named for each mast so there's the Fore Chains, Main Chains and Mizzen Chains. Very often the man whose job it was to throw the lead for depth sounding stood there so that he'd be outboard of all the rigging. They're wider than the deck so as to spread the shrouds a little farther for better purchase on the mast. Way back when I was small my parents bought a whole bunch of old [i[National Geographics[/i]. One of my favourite ones had the article on how Vasa was found and raised. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seadog Posted August 28, 2013 Share Posted August 28, 2013 Here's a quote from Charles Davis' bookShip Model Builder's Assistent' " In olden times the deadeyes in the lower ends of the shrouds were spread out away from the ships side by wide boards, called channels, to keep the shrouds from touching the rail above, and the connections from these deadeyes to the bolts in the ship's side below, through extra thick strakes of planking called the 'Chain wales', were pieces of chain; hence the expression, "in the fore chains" or "in the main chains"; and the plates bolted into the ships side, into which their lower ends were hooked, were the chain plates. A side note on heaving the lead is that the lead, up to 28lbs in weight...was often hollow with tallow inside which would pick up bits of the bottom, useful information! F Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seadog Posted August 29, 2013 Share Posted August 29, 2013 Found this nice little illo in "Seamanship in the Age of Sail" A Conway Publication by John Harland. The illo is by the Brilliant Marine Artist, Mark Myers. Probably an 18th c. ship or early 19th c. Gives a good idea of the scale of the chains on a large ship! What I find fascinating are the covers over the deadeyes and lanyards. The sketch was done from a contempory painting, so I gues some ships did this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foxy Posted August 30, 2013 Share Posted August 30, 2013 Heres a picture of the dead eyes . This for another ship, but most ships had the same type of fixing. Nice going Jorgen. Cheers foxy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bengalensis Posted August 30, 2013 Author Share Posted August 30, 2013 The masts were fitted yesterday night. I'm using photos of the large model at the museum as a reference to get them reasonably angled. When the rear mizzen mast was fitted a problem, which I had more or less expected, was finally confirmed. The angled yard interfered with the stern flagpole, when there should be quite some distance between them. The flagpole looked far too high and the angle of that yard too shallow. A rough paper sail template confirmed it. I did some measuring on photos of the museum model and some 1/150 vs. 1/144 calculations of the Revell kit's much shorter flagpole, and then promptly shortened the Airfix flagpole 13 mm. I also made a little cut so I could reangle the yard and add some glue, and then it looked much better. This is how it ended up. And here I am now. Suddenly the model has grown considerably in all directions and is no longer easy to handle... The little mast on the end of the bowsprit should not lean forward so much as it does now. This is how Airfix have done it, but it should be much more straight. I will have to make a little cut and try to reangle it. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nigel Heath Posted August 30, 2013 Share Posted August 30, 2013 I am worried Jörgen, in that first photo you still seem to have an awful lot of parts still unpainted and attached to their sprues, where the hell are you going to fit them in?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seadog Posted August 31, 2013 Share Posted August 31, 2013 Is it the Revell kit, still in it's bag? Whatever, she's really looking good! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob 1 Posted August 31, 2013 Share Posted August 31, 2013 (edited) Just read through the whole thread, and finding this is a great build, but the highlight above most others is the outstanding decorative paintwork, very well done! Edited August 31, 2013 by Rob 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foxy Posted August 31, 2013 Share Posted August 31, 2013 Thats coming on nicely, and lots still to do. Some faults can be sorted and this is looking good. I hope you have a glass case for this as its going to be a stunner. Cheers foxy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuck Posted August 31, 2013 Share Posted August 31, 2013 Outstanding workmanship !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bengalensis Posted August 31, 2013 Author Share Posted August 31, 2013 Nigel you´re right, it dawned on me yesterday that I must have forgotten half the kit. Too much wine every night... Oh well yes, it's indeed a bagged Revell kit, I could just measure its flagpole anyway. Thanks a lot guys, she's really taking off now. She is housed in one of my display cabinets (as are all my finished models) when I'm not working on her, so well protected but a bit temporary. When she's done I need something that makes her more visible. I will straighten up the little bow mast today. Then I must start seriously with the shrouds/ratlines, and the rest of the rigging. I will not even try a full real scale rigging with the other shortcomings the kit has, but hopefully a bit more advanced and busy than Airfix instructions suggest. I will try to find some compromise using both Revell and Airfix instructions and comparing with the museum model. I must find a good thread for the rigging, possibly two or three dimensions. I would prefer something ready to use, not having to spin my own, or pre-cut every length and soaking them in strong tea overnight... Any good suggestions? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nigel Heath Posted August 31, 2013 Share Posted August 31, 2013 The natural linen thread I am using on the Natter could be a good bet. It comes in a range of colours and has a natural, slightly uneven rope like appearance. There are of course bespoke marine model threads available, try a search including "rigging line". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seadog Posted August 31, 2013 Share Posted August 31, 2013 If you have any good model shops that sell wooden kits, they should have thread. Or try craft and sewing shops. I've had good rigging line from such places. BTW, a good way to handle the hairiness of a lot of threads is to drag the thread over a block of beeswax, helps preserve the thread and makes it easier to handle as well. Fraser Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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