Huub vD Posted August 7, 2013 Share Posted August 7, 2013 Hi All Here a quick posting Today bought the new 1/72 Minicraft Mariner. Only a PBM-5A can be made. Looks like a good basis for a stunning model of the Mariner. Fine recessed panellines and adequate detail. Small decal sheet printed by cartograf for 2 U.S. Navy versions one WW II and one post war. Have to have a closer look at this kit to check the accuracy. Will post my findings. Best regards Huub Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pigsty Posted August 7, 2013 Share Posted August 7, 2013 How much is it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huub vD Posted August 7, 2013 Author Share Posted August 7, 2013 Hi It was not cheap Picked it up at Aviation Megastore for 62.95 euro. Huub Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted August 7, 2013 Share Posted August 7, 2013 56cm wingspan should look good Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gunpowder17 Posted August 7, 2013 Share Posted August 7, 2013 Oh how i have waited for this one. I need to finish the b-17 first though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed Russell Posted August 7, 2013 Share Posted August 7, 2013 (edited) Only a PBM-5A can be made. Small decal sheet printed by Cartograf for 2 U.S. Navy versions one WW II and one post war. Have to have a closer look at this kit to check the accuracy. There are parts there for a PBM-5 flying boat. The serials are one for prototype and one spurious one so research needed there. When you are checking the accuracy bear in mind all of the many plans and profiles we have looked at are different. The Martin station drawings seem nearest to published dimensions. It looks like a PBM but a bit skinny around the tail - our conversion set will fix that. There are numerous other minor deficiencies we will fix but it looks pretty good. More discussion here http://www.britmodeller.com/forums/index.php?/topic/234939882-172nd-martin-pbm-5-5a-mariner-by-minicraft-release-imminent-first-look-link/ and here http://www.aussiemodeller.com.au/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=6541 x x Edited August 7, 2013 by Ed Russell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Takamota Posted October 16, 2013 Share Posted October 16, 2013 A bit pricey! mach2 kit builds up nicely for a lot less cash. Little bit more work as we all know Mach2 quality not the best but the sense of acheivement at the end is nice! Just my own humble opinion you undetstand....... 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveinns Posted October 16, 2013 Share Posted October 16, 2013 Hmmm, I like that ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gunpowder17 Posted October 17, 2013 Share Posted October 17, 2013 Waiting for mine to arrive excited as a little kid! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyot Posted October 17, 2013 Share Posted October 17, 2013 Got mine at the weekend and it was rather pricey at £45 however it seems to be a very nice kit. I agree with Ed that the parts are there to build a straight flying boat as there are blanks to fill in the main wheel wells. I`ll be building mine as a silver Dutch aircraft and my Mach 2 kit will hopefully be a RAAF transport, using the parts left over from my Rareplanes vacform which is in Korean War US Navy markings. Cheers Tony O Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
e8n2 Posted October 18, 2013 Share Posted October 18, 2013 Got mine at the weekend and it was rather pricey at £45 however it seems to be a very nice kit. I agree with Ed that the parts are there to build a straight flying boat as there are blanks to fill in the main wheel wells. I`ll be building mine as a silver Dutch aircraft and my Mach 2 kit will hopefully be a RAAF transport, using the parts left over from my Rareplanes vacform which is in Korean War US Navy markings. Cheers Tony O The only thing they didn't include for the straight flying boat version is the beaching gear. That will probably be included in a later release. Later, Dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JWM Posted April 2, 2023 Share Posted April 2, 2023 Hi, I excavated his thread since I think it is better to use (recycle?) an old one then create the new... My question is - is the Mariner PBM5A (amphibian) a WW2 machine or post war? The production was limited (40) and it happened I think in 1945 (?) not earlier (?) . Did the see any operations before V-J day or not? In Mincraft box there is a scheme/decals for machine from 1945, but I suspect that it is only a marketing.... I have not found any message that it was in use during WW2.... I have a PBM3s and think on construction of any of PBM-5 variant, the amphibian would be nice having more differences, but I limited my collection to WW2 (and some conflicts before it like SCW...). Therfore for me it is interesting if they were post war or still war time machines... Regards J-W Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoffrey Sinclair Posted April 3, 2023 Share Posted April 3, 2023 The XPBM-5A was accepted in April 1946, all 36 PBM-5A were well post war, accepted between April 1948 and March 1949. The final wartime version of the Mariner was the PBM-5E, acceptances of which started in April 1945 and ended in June 1947. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JWM Posted April 3, 2023 Share Posted April 3, 2023 2 hours ago, Geoffrey Sinclair said: The XPBM-5A was accepted in April 1946, all 36 PBM-5A were well post war, accepted between April 1948 and March 1949. The final wartime version of the Mariner was the PBM-5E, acceptances of which started in April 1945 and ended in June 1947. Many thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed Russell Posted April 3, 2023 Share Posted April 3, 2023 A PBM-5 cn still be built from the kit if you are lucky enough to find one. The PBM-5A markings are spurious anyway. We do get a lot of requests for it but unfortunately our update kit is lomg OOP. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admiral Puff Posted April 4, 2023 Share Posted April 4, 2023 Minicraft's moulds have now been passed over to Academy ( see here) so we may (and I emphasise MAY) see the Mariner in circulation again. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JWM Posted April 5, 2023 Share Posted April 5, 2023 (edited) On 4/3/2023 at 9:39 AM, Ed Russell said: A PBM-5 cn still be built from the kit if you are lucky enough to find one. The PBM-5A markings are spurious anyway. We do get a lot of requests for it but unfortunately our update kit is lomg OOP. In US it is not that difficult to get it as in Europe. However the Aviation megastore had surprisingly (till yesterday) four of them in stash! Now one of them is on the way to Poland 😀 Edited April 5, 2023 by JWM 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JWM Posted April 5, 2023 Share Posted April 5, 2023 19 hours ago, Admiral Puff said: so we may (and I emphasise MAY) see the Mariner in circulation again.) Oops, it means that very likely I overpaid by 3 times... surely at lest I doubled expected future price of Academy Mariner... If it will come... Regards J-W Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JWM Posted April 7, 2023 Share Posted April 7, 2023 My Mariner from Av.Meg.St. landed at my place . There is a photo of PBM 5 from VPB 27 flying on submarine patrol near Okinawa It is very well worn machine what tempting me a lot. The scheme is very peculiar with all white leading edges of external parts of wings (low visibility for antisubmarine - the experience taken from Battle for Atlantic?) . However the serial of machine is not know, moreover, the white inscriptions is not readable in this resolution. Has anybody this photo in better quality that can read the inscription? The "E10" could it be related to serial (with last digit overpainted?) ? Like on here J047? (with he same white leading edges scheme), but less worn https://www.gettyimages.co.nz/detail/news-photo/view-of-a-martin-pbm-mariner-patrol-bomber-as-it-undergoes-news-photo/104081043?adppopup=true I am considering doing either this machine or the all black like the one in backgriund behind J047 or C428 https://i.pinimg.com/originals/18/30/96/18309621cbb0f1a0c04f782d771ffa55.jpg from Marians. Any help with clarifying those details will be most appreciated. Regards J-W Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
e8n2 Posted April 9, 2023 Share Posted April 9, 2023 The Bureau number (that's what the Navy calls them) would have been in one inch high numbers on the outside of each fin. In 72nd, good luck in trying to read a number that small on a dark background, so I wouldn't really worry about it. As for the rest of it, I couldn't say. Later, Dave 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenshirt Posted April 9, 2023 Share Posted April 9, 2023 On 4/7/2023 at 2:45 PM, JWM said: the all black like the one in backgriund behind J047 That aircraft would be overall glossy sea blue, not black. Tim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JWM Posted April 9, 2023 Share Posted April 9, 2023 3 hours ago, Greenshirt said: That aircraft would be overall glossy sea blue, not black. Tim Tim, thank you, I thought this before also, but I have serious doubts. Or I am rather convinced that it is black, like on Catalinas. First it is not glossy at all https://www.worldwarphotos.info/gallery/usa/aircrafts-2-3/pbm/pbm-5-mariner-c428-saipan/ https://www.worldwarphotos.info/gallery/usa/aircrafts-2-3/pbm/pbm-5-martin-mariner-hoisted-aboard-seaplane-tender-1945/ Here, on a color photo it looks really like a mat black, same as on props https://www.worldwarphotos.info/gallery/usa/aircrafts-2-3/pbm/pbm-being-refueled-in-the-marianas-in-early-1945/ Regards J-W Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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