tinleeds Posted June 24, 2013 Share Posted June 24, 2013 (edited) Hi guys! Started another project few days ago. Trumpeter MiG-3 Early version. Nice kit. Also I got Eduard photo etched set for cockpit. Artbox got few books as references With planning to get A. Pokrishkin plane... probably something like this: I know this kit got few mistakes but not critical. Going to change armour back plate on pilot seat and not to use harness straps because no one wartime photo showed it. So, lets go rock and roll Tried to deepen and make thinner pilot's seat First version armour back plate beside original one Progress at the moment. Hope you like it Ivan. Edited June 24, 2013 by tinleeds 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Headroom Posted June 24, 2013 Share Posted June 24, 2013 Very nice! I built or rather finished this recently. Very good fit with the parts except the intakes at the wing roots - very fiddly. I look forward to progress! Trevor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marek Posted June 24, 2013 Share Posted June 24, 2013 Nice start. Good luck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Learstang Posted June 24, 2013 Share Posted June 24, 2013 Nice cockpit! What did you use for the interior colour? Regards, Jason Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tinleeds Posted June 24, 2013 Author Share Posted June 24, 2013 (edited) Thank you guys Jason, I used Tamiya XF-53 with couple drops white (my interpritacion of A-14) and Valejo model air 71.021 (RLM70) for analog of АПГ-5 or APG-5. (in my opinion ) We had a lot of conversation about this colors on Russian modeling forum. http://scalemodels.ru/modules/forum/viewtopic_t_46762_start_0.html Few photos Ivan. АПГ-5 APG-5: A-14: Edited June 24, 2013 by tinleeds Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Learstang Posted June 24, 2013 Share Posted June 24, 2013 Thank you for the photographs, Ivan! A-14 I know about, but I don't remember APG-5. I presume that's a primer? Was it a pre-GPW colour? It wasn't used on Il-2's or I'm sure I would have heard about it. Regards, Jason Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tinleeds Posted June 25, 2013 Author Share Posted June 25, 2013 (edited) You are right Jason. ALG-5 (sorry for my mistake, should be ALG-5 instead APG-5. Russian "П" and "Л" looks a bit similar ) is a primer and it was mixt from ALG-1 and A-14 and was a bit dark grey-green. I have no idea about Il-2 you should know much more than me but I can ask on scalemodels's forum about it and let you know result. but it looks like one colour for panels and structure: Ivan. Edited June 25, 2013 by tinleeds Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Learstang Posted June 26, 2013 Share Posted June 26, 2013 (edited) Yes, I've seen those, Ivan. The first two are of an Il-2 in a museum in Kiev, I believe, and the second is a rare GPW photograph of the instrument panel (a captured example - notice how a German souvenir-hunter has already pried one of the instruments out). The Kiev wreck seems to show ALG-1 (the yellowish colour), and ALG-5 (the greenish colour). However, I think it may very well all be ALG-5 that has weathered to a yellowish colour in places (it seems strange that the Soviets would use two primers on an all-metal cockpit). There doesn't seem to be any A-14 Steel Grey (the greyish colour on the floor is probably just oxidised aluminium), but it may have just weathered off. The GPW photograph shows the panel to be painted in a light colour, perhaps AE-9 Light Grey. For what it's worth, I use Testors Model Master Neutral Gray for my A-14, and MM Camouflage Gray for the instrument panel colour. Regards, Jason Edited October 20, 2013 by Learstang Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tinleeds Posted October 8, 2013 Author Share Posted October 8, 2013 (edited) A bit more progress. It's go really slow for me but I don't care. This is a hobby and should be with pleasure and inspiration Try to upgrade wheels bays. Edited October 8, 2013 by tinleeds 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shalako Posted October 8, 2013 Share Posted October 8, 2013 I'm not an expert on early MIG aircrafts, but it is my humble opinion that you have exaggerated - just a bit - with the weathering on the cockpit's floor. What do you think? Everything else look great. Keep up the good work! Cheers Sernak Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tinleeds Posted October 8, 2013 Author Share Posted October 8, 2013 You are right Sernak... My main problem - can't stop in right time and always go over any limit... And some more picture from progress I did few weeks ago. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Learstang Posted October 8, 2013 Share Posted October 8, 2013 Looking good, Ivan, keep at it! Always nice to show the folks here some Soviet GPW aircraft, and how interesting and attractive they could be. Regards, Jason Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Col. Posted October 8, 2013 Share Posted October 8, 2013 Stunning work Ivan. Always liked the MiG-3 but not an aircraft I know much about. Will be watching out for your progress on this one now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tinleeds Posted October 20, 2013 Author Share Posted October 20, 2013 Today, some work on the model. Mesh made of imitation radiator and protection upstream air intakes. Then replaced the air outlet flap to sheet of cans. Put on a dry, like not bad. Hope you like it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Learstang Posted October 20, 2013 Share Posted October 20, 2013 Nice job on the radiators, Ivan! Regards, Jason Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Col. Posted October 20, 2013 Share Posted October 20, 2013 Those improvements are having a great effect on your model Ivan. Extremely nice work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tinleeds Posted December 1, 2013 Author Share Posted December 1, 2013 Thank you all guys! I'm so glad you like it Sorry for long period of silent, as I said before this project going slowly. But for last time I got some progress and tested new tool for drilling. A little upgrade for under-wing area. make thinner rear wheel cover A bit upgrade of landing gear Ready for primer 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marek Posted December 1, 2013 Share Posted December 1, 2013 good job ! It's very interesting to see your model , I once made the MiG-3 by ICM myself but mine was rather a joke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Col. Posted December 1, 2013 Share Posted December 1, 2013 A good selection of subtle details there to enhance the kit parts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Learstang Posted December 1, 2013 Share Posted December 1, 2013 That is turning out very nicely, Ivan! I look forward to the finished article. Regards, Jason Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Kiker Posted December 2, 2013 Share Posted December 2, 2013 Hi Ivan, I have just run across this build and I like the additional work you are adding to it. It may be too late now, but given the extra detail you are adding I thought it might be of interest to mention that Trumpeter did not quite get the correct configuration on the exhaust openings. If my memory serves, these early MiG-3's did not have the raised lip above and below the exhausts. Further, the fairing at the front of the exhausts appears to be something between the early short fairing and the later long one. If you are interested in messing around with this, please reply here. I think I still have some in-progress pictures that show what I did. And if you are not particularly interested, that is perfectly fine as well. HTH, Jim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tinleeds Posted December 4, 2013 Author Share Posted December 4, 2013 Thank you very much Jim! I still interesting about exhaust area. A was thinking to change it but to sure if I can do it... When I was started this model I was planed to have a relax and joy without any big modification but I'm afraid fall into protracted project Anyway I so glad if you like it and I'll be very appreciated for any help and inspiration and photo from yours WIP you can post here, it'll be great! And now I got some more progress pictures: I drilled a little hole and touched with paint Place in a wing painted with aluminium paint and after dry will fix with Clearfix. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Kiker Posted December 5, 2013 Share Posted December 5, 2013 (edited) Hi Ivan, I do a similar treatment of wingtip lights, and they will look even better on the finished plane. It will take about as much time for me to write out the update I did to the kit cowlings as it will to actually do it, and of course it will be up to you to give it a try or take a pass. First, the shroud at the front of the slot where the exhausts fit is incorrect for the early MiG-3; it can be cut off using the slot itself as a guide. As with so much in modeling, taking things slowly and with care will mean fewer errors and extra things to repair. Next, the kit has raised ridges along the top and bottom of the exhaust slot which need to be sanded off. I applied thin tape right next to each raised ridge and sanded them down. With the tape there, you can quickly get down to about the thickness of a piece of paper without damaging the surface detail. After that, I switched to narrow, fine sanding sticks and worked the remaining plastic off, sanding along the slot edge (front to back) rather than across the slot (top to bottom). Result: almost no loss of surface detail, with the original shroud and raised lip removed. Looking at the references such as you have, there is a shorter shroud shape at the front of the exhausts plus a short flat piece at the very front of the slot on these early MiGs. I cut a piece of photoetch brass to the length needed and left it longer at the sides, forming a rectangle. Using the small round handle of one of my files, I bent the rectangle into a "U" shape; the width of the "U" needs to be slightly bigger than the exhaust tubes. The front end of the piece will tuck into the fuselage at the front end, but the back end needs to stick out enough from the kit's fusleage so that the kit exhausts can be slid into the slot at an angle. Done right, you can fit the exhausts into position at the end of build. From the inside you wind up with this. The most important thing besides leaving enough space to fit the exhausts is to make the length of the shroud the same on both sides. Now you want to cut out a small piece of plastic sheet into a rectangle, file a notch into it to fit snug against the new shroud, and glue it in place at the front of the slot. It won't be perfect, but a little Mr. Surfacer or something similar will do to blend the plastic piece to the shroud and to the edges of the opening; here is the end result with the other fuselage piece in it's original shape for comparison. the idea is to get this plastic piece to fit flush with the edges of the slot and blended into the shroud. Finally, here is a picture of the model without paint, showing the completed work. You should also note that there is a recessed panel line around the exhaust opening on the model; I did a little restoration work on my build. Here is a picture of the finished model that shows how the new pieces look once painted up. As I said, it won't take all that much longer to do this update, if you want to do it, than it takes to describe it. If anything is unclear, let me know and I will be happy to help. Happy modeling, Jim Edited December 5, 2013 by Jim Kiker 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Learstang Posted December 5, 2013 Share Posted December 5, 2013 Beautiful MiG, Jim! Regards, Jason Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tinleeds Posted December 5, 2013 Author Share Posted December 5, 2013 Thank you very much Jim! Honestly I was a bit confused with this area and planned to live it as is even now, when fuselage is glued.. I was thinking this is depend from modification or something else But it's looks like another visible difference between early and late version Don't know if I'll do this but I'll try. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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