scorpiomikey Posted June 20, 2013 Share Posted June 20, 2013 So i was looking for extra bits and bobs to add to my airfix spit, and i notice theres 2 different types of exhausts. Oval and Fishtail. Whats the significance of this? Does it matter which one i use? Thanks for the assist guys. Mike. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jennings Heilig Posted June 20, 2013 Share Posted June 20, 2013 The early ones were round and the later ones were fishtail (carried over to the Mk.V). It matters which you use if it matters how accurate you want your model to be, but only you know that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doug Rogers Posted June 20, 2013 Share Posted June 20, 2013 And as always, try and find a picture of the Spitfire you're modelling so you know that it used that particular style of exhaust. Photos are obviously best, steer clear of profile pictures if you can. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scorpiomikey Posted June 20, 2013 Author Share Posted June 20, 2013 So it was a matter of individual aircraft then? Thanks guys, ill get to researching which one i want to do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnd Posted June 20, 2013 Share Posted June 20, 2013 I wasn't aware that Mk.Is carried fishtail exhausts. Always thought they made an appearance on the Mk.V... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Work In Progress Posted June 20, 2013 Share Posted June 20, 2013 (edited) Some examples of the Mark I continued in service until the end of the war and were updated with all sorts of whatever was available. They could be seen with fishtails, even with multiple ejectors, and with Mark V oil coolers in some cases. = Edited June 20, 2013 by Work In Progress Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scorpiomikey Posted June 20, 2013 Author Share Posted June 20, 2013 So some Mk.1's ended up as frankenstein birds? Thats kind of interesting. That means i need to pick a time frame and research the hell out of a particular aircraft to make sure i get it right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Work In Progress Posted June 20, 2013 Share Posted June 20, 2013 (edited) Well, that's always been the case. Consider, if you will, the pre-war aircraft which started life with 2-blade props and flat sliding canopy sections, and no armour, and the early protruding outer gun muzzles and so on. Most of those survived into the B of B, but not looking like that. All military aircraft that survive longer than a couple of months are modified and updated in service, and more dynamically in wartime than in peacetime. I can't think of a single example that hasn't been. To take another example of a widely adopted Spitfire modification, there's the retro-fitting of aircraft built with the original fabric-covered ailerons with metal-covered ones. R6915 at the Imperial War Museum is an examples of the Mark I with fishtail exhausts and many other mods carried out during its service ownership. Have a look at http://www.warbirdregistry.org/spitregistry/spitfire-r6915.html for a potted history. Edited June 20, 2013 by Work In Progress Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scorpiomikey Posted June 20, 2013 Author Share Posted June 20, 2013 Very interesting, i normally do alot of research into an aircraft im building, but early spitfires all seem so generic. The one i liked the look of was AZ+H with the black crosses painted over the roundels (german captured) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doug Rogers Posted June 20, 2013 Share Posted June 20, 2013 So it would appear that looking at the pics of the German guards standing over N3277, it had the oval cast style of manifolds, not the fishtail type. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Work In Progress Posted June 20, 2013 Share Posted June 20, 2013 Fortunately there are plenty of pics of that one, mostly taken by the Germans after they captured it. No fishtails - standard tubular exhausts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troy Smith Posted June 20, 2013 Share Posted June 20, 2013 Very interesting, i normally do alot of research into an aircraft im building, but early spitfires all seem so generic. The one i liked the look of was AZ+H with the black crosses painted over the roundels (german captured) the late 1970's version of the Airfix Mk had AZ-H as it's marking option! If you fancy a less generic MkI you could do one of the early PR variants, you need to some small modifications. There was also a Turkish MkI.. cheers T Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aero Imageworks Posted June 20, 2013 Share Posted June 20, 2013 note the colour isn't 'brick red' Cheersy http://www.aeroimageworks.com/spitfiresintheantipodesblog.htm Prof-meisterrrrrrr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Headroom Posted June 20, 2013 Share Posted June 20, 2013 Some examples of the Mark I continued in service until the end of the war and were updated with all sorts of whatever was available. They could be seen with fishtails, even with multiple ejectors, and with Mark V oil coolers in some cases. = Here's the example from the IWM at Lambeth before it was removed this year. As a Mk.I at the end of the war, in a second line unit I'm guessing that if it fitted, it went on. Trevor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scorpiomikey Posted June 20, 2013 Author Share Posted June 20, 2013 Ill just need to pick up some sky codes and serial numbers (May have some i can use in my stash) The kit im working with is the Airfix 1:48 Spitfire Mk.I/Mk.Ia/Mk.IIa I think its the new one, its got the spit flying away from the camera with a pair of smoking 109's in the background. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edgar Posted June 20, 2013 Share Posted June 20, 2013 1940-vintage Spitfires had Medium Sea Grey codes. Edgar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scorpiomikey Posted June 20, 2013 Author Share Posted June 20, 2013 ...medium sea grey codes then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troy Smith Posted June 21, 2013 Share Posted June 21, 2013 Ill just need to pick up some sky codes and serial numbers (May have some i can use in my stash) The kit im working with is the Airfix 1:48 Spitfire Mk.I/Mk.Ia/Mk.IIa I think its the new one, its got the spit flying away from the camera with a pair of smoking 109's in the background. If you are building the 1/48 Airfix Spitfire Mk.I, some judicious sanding will go a long way see here for details http://www.network54.com/Forum/149674/thread/1184142858/New+Airfix+Spitfire+Mk-1- John Adams is the owner of Aeroclub, and noted for accuracy and his knowledge of Spitfires. What it won't fix is the oversize spinner, but replacements can got by using ones from the 1/48 Hurricane, which has both the DeHavilland [as used on most BoB spits] and Rotol [as used on Spitfire MkII] HTH T Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scorpiomikey Posted June 21, 2013 Author Share Posted June 21, 2013 Thanks for that troy. Looks like there isnt too much i need to do to the kit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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