dadgaddad Posted June 15, 2013 Share Posted June 15, 2013 Which 1/72 scale kits would people recommend for these two planes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miggers Posted June 15, 2013 Share Posted June 15, 2013 (edited) Others may comment on the MiG,but how detailed do you want to go with the Sea Fury?. The Airfix/PM is a pretty good blank canvas,not bad in outline,but basic in detail. Build up of it here(dunno who the hell these guys are though ) http://www.britmodeller.com/forums/index.php?/topic/34147-172-airfix-sea-fury-fb11/ The Special Hobby(had the kit and sold it on)is pretty good all round with resin details and a good decal sheet. The Trumpy is said to have a pig of a wingfold(you can do folded or spread)and a bit of a mare to build all round. Comparison of the Trumper and SH kits here: http://designer.home.xs4all.nl/models/seafuries/seafuries-72.htm The absolute gold standard of 1/72 Sea Furies is the amazing Aki resin kit: http://www.modelingmadness.com/review/korean/cleaver/tmc72sf.htm With you asking about the MiG too,I suppose you want to do Hoagy Carmichael's 802 Sqn MiG killer? The old Frog kit(very scrub-uppable)has markings for his kite along with a wingfold option. It has raised panel lines and is again a bit basic,but do-able. That maybe your answer,add some Aeroclub undercart,prop,a few scratchbuilt details.... http://www.cybermodeler.com/hobby/kits/frog/kit_frog_f221.shtml Edited June 15, 2013 by Miggers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flankerman Posted June 15, 2013 Share Posted June 15, 2013 (edited) As for the MiG-15........ If you are not bothered with accuracy, the new(ish) Airfix MiG-15 is very buildable - but suffers from a lot of outline shape/dimension problems. When finished, it looks a bit like a MiG-15 to the untrained eye. If (as I suspect?) you are doing a 'Dogfight Double', then a quick and easy build would be the Hobby Boss 'Easy Assemble' MiG-15 kit. The KP MiG-15 is very accurate in outline - but has lots of raised rivets that need sanding down. It comes with Korean War markings. HTH Ken Edited June 15, 2013 by Flankerman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dadgaddad Posted June 15, 2013 Author Share Posted June 15, 2013 Cheers, guys. I took my dad to the Cosford airshow and, being ex-RN, he was very excited about the Sea Fury display so I thought it might be nice to put these side by side for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
venomvixen Posted June 15, 2013 Share Posted June 15, 2013 For me the best Sea Fury would be the Special Hobby kit closely followed by the old Frog tart. Both need a little TLC but build up very nicely. The Airfix kit is a rebox of the Pioneer kit and is awful, the area around the exhausts is inaccurate gear well is to shallow and the prop is spindly, best left on the shelf. The sites non swearing policy forbids me to comment on Trumpeters outrage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The wooksta V2.0 Posted June 15, 2013 Share Posted June 15, 2013 (edited) I'm quite fond of the PM kit. Cheap, easy to build and a reasonable blank canvas on which to do some detailing. All I generally do is move the bulkhead and pilot's seat further forward, add some basic side consoles*, sand the wing trailing edges down a tad, blank off the radiator. Some stretched sprue for the exhausts. The Aeroclub u/c and canopy finish it off. *I do have a mould for a resin insert, using the SH one as a basis. If I'm feeling generous, in it goes. Edited June 15, 2013 by The wooksta V2.0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KRK4m Posted June 15, 2013 Share Posted June 15, 2013 (edited) As for the MiG-15........The KP MiG-15 is very accurate in outline - but has lots of raised rivets that need sanding down. It comes with Korean War markings.Ken The KP MiG-15 is some 7mm too short overall due to the vertical fin sweep angle error - it looks more than sth from the Ouragan/Mystere family and not the MiG. Except for this error (very difficult to correct) the shape is almost perfect. Unfortunately the same error is duplicated within the (otherwise excellent) HB kit. "Thanks" to this error both these kits need less balance weight into the nose, as their CG is moved forward. The only kit on the market today (both original Airfix srs.1 and Dragon/Italeri kits have disapppeared some time ago) featuring correct vertical tail sweep angle is the new Airfix one. However dozens of other issues (nose length, cockpit location, spurious u/c bays - to list just these totally unacceptable) make this kit not worth bothering with. The best way to get correctly-shaped 1/72 MiG-15 is mating the HB kit with vertical tail taken from the excellent AZ MiG-17PF, as this kit features surplus MiG-17F fuselage inside, while whole vertical tail unit of MiG-15 and -17 is virtually the same (there are some minor differences in surface detail, but it's easy to correct). Unfortunately this makes the finished model difficult to balance - the new Airfix kit is "better" here thanks to its absurdly long nose and the rear-moved main u/c. As to the Sea Fury both Miggers and Venomvixen ane right - Special Hobby is the best and the only one acceptable. Old Frog is very basic, PM/Airfix has serious shape issues, although not so impossible to correct as those featured by otherwise beautifully-detailed Trumpeter. Edited June 16, 2013 by KRK4m Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graeme H Posted June 15, 2013 Share Posted June 15, 2013 with the MiG15, the new Eduard kit is reputedly the bees knees, but as the mould broke after just over 100 had been done, it is rarer than petrified rocking horse doo doo, they say they will rebuild it, but give no time frame for a re-release Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dadgaddad Posted June 16, 2013 Author Share Posted June 16, 2013 Could the HB tail be swapped with the Airfix one? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giorgio N Posted June 16, 2013 Share Posted June 16, 2013 The Special Hobby kit might be the best Sea Fury on the market, but it's less than perfect. Most of the issues will only bother those who really love the subject, but one is IMHO very visible: the shape of the canopy at the rear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The wooksta V2.0 Posted June 16, 2013 Share Posted June 16, 2013 The ironic thing is that I tend to use the spare SH canopies to upgrade the PM/Airfix kit... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Headroom Posted June 16, 2013 Share Posted June 16, 2013 One thing to note with the PM/Airfix Sea Fury is that you will need. LOT of thinning for the wing trailing edge. Trevor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miggers Posted June 16, 2013 Share Posted June 16, 2013 Cheers, guys. I took my dad to the Cosford airshow and, being ex-RN, he was very excited about the Sea Fury display so I thought it might be nice to put these side by side for him. And a nice display it was too. The Centaurus sounded superb. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KRK4m Posted June 16, 2013 Share Posted June 16, 2013 Could the HB tail be swapped with the Airfix one? Yes, this can be done and the result (i.e. HB kit fitted with Airfix tail) should be good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dadgaddad Posted September 30, 2013 Author Share Posted September 30, 2013 (edited) Well, it just had to happen, didn't it? With no sign of the Eduard MIG 15 coming out I bought the Hobby Boss kit and now look at what they've gone and done Edited September 30, 2013 by dadgaddad 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duncan B Posted October 2, 2013 Share Posted October 2, 2013 Eduard have the Mig 15 and the Mig 15 bis as overtree editions on their website just now at approx €9, no fancy box, decals and you have to download the instructions but a reasonable price anyway. Be quick though as it is only on for a short while. Duncan B Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dfqweofekwpeweiop4 Posted October 3, 2013 Share Posted October 3, 2013 I've built the Trumpeter Sea Fury before and did not encounter any real problems in the build an it looked enough like a Sea Fury for me. I would imagine, based on my experience with Special Hobby kits so far, that the Special Hobby one will be a much more difficult build (especially if it's as bad as their Tempest II!). I'll have the retooled Eduard MiG-15 by tomorrow hopefully. I'm hoping since they retooled it with newer technology, that the details will be much sharper than the ones they did before the mould broke. I know someone who bought one at E day last year and it looks very short run to me. If the new Mig-15 is as good as the earlier Bf110 and Hellcats, Eduard will have a real winner. thanks Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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