phat trev Posted June 4, 2013 Share Posted June 4, 2013 What RAF Squadron used the Meteor T.7? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham T Posted June 4, 2013 Share Posted June 4, 2013 AFAIK, many squadrons had a T7 "hack". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyot Posted June 4, 2013 Share Posted June 4, 2013 What RAF Unit didn`t have a Meteor T.7 at some point? The bomber units all used them when they converted from props to Canberra`s and most fighter units had at least one as a hack. Even Comms Sqns had them on charge, plus most Station Flights, Cheers Tony O Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selwyn Posted June 4, 2013 Share Posted June 4, 2013 What RAF Squadron used the Meteor T.7? The answer is that a high proportion of RAF fighter squadrons had one, even squadrons that did not fly Meteors! Mu local R aux AF unit in the 1950's 613 Sqn (City of Manchester) flew Vampires but had Meteor 2 seaters on strength. Add to that all the station flights, Flying training units, trial units etc it would probably easier and quicker to find out who did not have Meteor T7 on strength. Selwyn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phat trev Posted June 4, 2013 Author Share Posted June 4, 2013 That's ideal news as I am wanting to do a T.7 (hopefully in camo) so I was hoping for a bit of choice! Although I guess most would have been highspeed silver overall? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Headroom Posted June 4, 2013 Share Posted June 4, 2013 That's ideal news as I am wanting to do a T.7 (hopefully in camo) so I was hoping for a bit of choice! Although I guess most would have been highspeed silver overall? AFAIK as a trainer (even if used as a station 'hack'), it would not have been camouflaged. If you want colorful T.7's in UK service I think you need to go FAA as some were blue (possibly green Admiral's Barge?). Trevor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phat trev Posted June 4, 2013 Author Share Posted June 4, 2013 Thanks Trevor. Was thinking of going colourful but I am wanting more to go silver undersides and grey/green upper with more of an emphasis on a particular squadron (east anglian airbase) not sure what sqn or base yet or colourful squadron markings. Who knows of any colour side views of the T.7 apart from www.wing pallet or a google search which brings up mostly pics of the current flying example (which is very nice) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Fleming Posted June 4, 2013 Share Posted June 4, 2013 There were a few camouflaged ones about (74 Squadron springs to mind) but I'm away from my books at present Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wez Posted June 5, 2013 Share Posted June 5, 2013 AFAIK as a trainer (even if used as a station 'hack'), it would not have been camouflaged. If you want colorful T.7's in UK service I think you need to go FAA as some were blue (possibly green Admiral's Barge?). Trevor No you don't, the colour on the FAA ones mostly came from the use of the standard colours (silver, yellow, dayglo), there were exceptions of course (black/dayglo) but on the whole, the RAF had by far the more colourful options especially the RAuxAF. If you want to go down the camouflaged route, 74 Sqn had one in DSG/DG/Silver with the tiger markings.If you can find it the Warpaint volume on the Meteor has some excellent schemes. As others have said most units had them as hacks, proficiency trainers, for instrument ratings etc, I'm sure you'll find many options. Wez Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phat trev Posted June 5, 2013 Author Share Posted June 5, 2013 Thanks Wez. I have found a post on ARC forums covering a few clavework profiles covering various RAF squadrons and this has the tiger stripe 74sqn T.7 in camo. Going to do somthing that is not usually modelled one but still colourful like 19sqn. Now looking for lists of east anglian squadrons that had meteors and may have had trainers like you suggested (as hacks or instrument trainers etc) period photos are what I need! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Fleming Posted June 5, 2013 Share Posted June 5, 2013 Steve Bond's Meteor book should have most of the info you are looking for - if only I could find my copy!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisrope Posted June 5, 2013 Share Posted June 5, 2013 Hasn't the Xtrakit T7 got a camo option though I think that is 74 squadron. I'm going from memory because mines tucked away in the loft Chris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nicE1 Posted June 5, 2013 Share Posted June 5, 2013 The only camouflaged T7 mereor was with 74 sqn so that's what your stuck with! unless you fancy doing the air show version! which was all over blue! and that's as colourful as your going to get with the T7! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Fleming Posted June 5, 2013 Share Posted June 5, 2013 The only camouflaged T7 mereor was with 74 sqn so that's what your stuck with! unless you fancy doing the air show version! which was all over blue! and that's as colourful as your going to get with the T7! WL349 was allegedly camouflaged when operated by 229 OCU in the early 70s (At the same time 'Winston' was painted in camo) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silver Fox Posted June 5, 2013 Share Posted June 5, 2013 In the Steve Bond book the author states that camouflaged T7s were rare(pg98 with a photo of the 74 Squadron T7 on the facing page.). The only other photo in the book is on page 102 showing a 229OCU T.7 WL349 'decorated with 28 Squadron markings'. The caption goes on to say that the picture was taken in August 1974 after the machine had been grounded in the previous January. It has a large Z on the fin below the bullet and a white Z on the nose wheel door. Here's a link to an illustration: http://www.rudnei.cunha.nom.br/GlosterMeteors/meteor_t7_wl349_229ocu28sqn_markings_raf.html I don't know how reliable this is . http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&site=imghp&tbm=isch&source=hp&biw=1600&bih=754&q=WL349&oq=WL349&gs_l=img.12...2603.4736.0.6059.5.5.0.0.0.0.60.261.5.5.0...0.0...1ac.1.15.img.iyfQ38Gktis#facrc=_&imgrc=VlWCKBVqkgJSFM%3A%3BSBnTM-4NNbxBmM%3Bhttp%253A%252F%252Ffarm8.staticflickr.com%252F7010%252F6742362439_e73ac1b20c_z.jpg%3Bhttp%253A%252F%252Fwww.flickr.com%252Fphotos%252Fegbj%252F6742362439%252F%3B640%3B426 WL349 is listed as being stored at Staverton. Hope this is of some use. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phat trev Posted June 5, 2013 Author Share Posted June 5, 2013 Converting a matchbox NF... Small fronted intakes (NF11/12 style) or larger NF14 style for a T.7? Guessing small (earlier style) also use of belly and wing tanks or just wing. I have an aeroclub conversion set for tail Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silver Fox Posted June 5, 2013 Share Posted June 5, 2013 If you do WL349 small intakes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phat trev Posted June 5, 2013 Author Share Posted June 5, 2013 not sure what one i am doing yet silverfox but thanks- small it is (unless some had larger ones? ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Test Graham Posted June 5, 2013 Share Posted June 5, 2013 According to Roger Lindsay, 607 Sq's Meteor T7s were initially supplied in silver with yellow trainer bands, the latter being soon painted out. Early in 1954 they were camouflaged with full squadron markings, but reverted to silver with yellow T-bands in 1955. The two aircraft were VW489/Q and VW439/R, with yellow code letters on the nose repeated in black on the nose-wheel door. Other T7s are linked to the unit but I don't have dates for them and RL doesn't mention them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sloegin57 Posted June 5, 2013 Share Posted June 5, 2013 Converting a matchbox NF... Small fronted intakes (NF11/12 style) or larger NF14 style for a T.7? Guessing small (earlier style) also use of belly and wing tanks or just wing. I have an aeroclub conversion set for tail Mostly small intakes on RAF squadron aircraft Trev, although some (e.g. A&AEE) did have the large ones as did RN aircraft (mostly). The belly tank seems to have been a permanent fixture on T-birds with wing tanks coming in later on in their careers. DR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silver Fox Posted June 5, 2013 Share Posted June 5, 2013 Roger Lindsay also says that WA639 of the Waterbeach station Flight was camouflaged, and the serial was actually yellow. A small station badge was carried on the nose. (picture pg.376 Cold War Shield Vol. 1) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phat trev Posted June 5, 2013 Author Share Posted June 5, 2013 just found this infomation, decided to put it on here for those who may be interested also! T Mark 7 The next version of the Meteor was designed in response to the obvious need for a trainer variant, especially given the significant overseas orders now being received. There was no official requirement and the prototype, G-AIDC (later G-AKPK), flew on 19 March 1948, nearly four years after the single seat fighter entered service. There was immediate official interest and specification T.1/47 was issued to cover the type. The trainer was based on the Mark IV but with the fuselage extended by 30 inches to accommodate the second seat. An extra fuel tank was fitted replacing ballast and there was also provision for underwing tanks. The canopy was heavily framed. The longer nose conferred added directional stability which was to have an impact on the design of later variants. Later production models were fitted with the Derwent 8 and the square-cut tail unit of the F Mark 8. (this bit is of interest I feel) Service (those in the know what do the acronyms stand for please??!) Trainer 202, 203, 205, 206, 207, 208, 209, 210, 211, 215 AFS 1, 2 ANS CFS ECFS 1689 FPPTF 3, 4, 5, 8, 9, 10, 12, 211 FTS 101, 102, 103, 105 FRS 226, 228, 229, 231, 233, 237, 238 OCU AWOCU 32 OTU RAFC RAFFC All Meteor and some other squadrons had one or two T7s on charge including 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 8, 9, 11, 13, 14, 16, 19, 20, 23, 24, 25, 26, 28, 29, 32, 33, 34, 39, 41, 43, 45, 46, 54, 56, 60, 63, 64, 65, 66, 67, 68. 71, 72, 73, 74, 78, 79, 81, 85, 87, 89, 92, 93, 94, 96, 98, 111, 112, 118, 125, 130, 141, 145, 151, 152, 153, 185, 208, 213, 216, 219, 222, 234, 245, 247, 249, 256, 257, 263, 264, 266, 500, 501, 502, 504, 527, 540; 541, 600, 601, 602, 603, 604, 605, 607, 608, 609, 610, 611, 612, 613, 614, 615, 616 Communications 1, 2, 3, 11, 12, 13, 14, 25, 64, 81, 83, 205 GCF 2 TAFCS 41 GTPP BCCF BCCS CCCF FCCS FECS Levant CF MECS PCCS Aden Other AFDS; AMSDU; APS Acklington, Sylt; AWDS; BLEU; 3, 3/4, 5 CAACU; CAW; CFE; CGS; EAAS; ETPS; FETS; FTU; FWS; GWDS; IAM; ITF Nicosia, Shallufa, Tangmere, West Raynham, JCF; JCU; JTF; NGTE; 1 OFU; RAE; SCU; TAFC; TTF Nicosia; Seletar; 1574 TFF; TWU; 1 TWU Royal Navy 700Z, 702, 703, 728, 736, 759, 767, 771, 781, 806, 813 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisrope Posted June 5, 2013 Share Posted June 5, 2013 I'll never be any kind of expert but the only kind of T7 I've seen with an F8 tail is the Martin Baker ejector test aircraft. They are oddballs though. My Matchbox/Aeroclub T7 Got another on the go at the minute too Chris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phat trev Posted June 5, 2013 Author Share Posted June 5, 2013 I'll never be any kind of expert but the only kind of T7 I've seen with an F8 tail is the Martin Baker ejector test aircraft. They are oddballs though. My Matchbox/Aeroclub T7 Got another on the go at the minute too Chris That looks really good Chris, I am quite impressed with the matchbox kit as a basis to add detail to, from some peoples writeups I have found I thought it might be..well a load of rubbish. I like the glossy finish, so much a part of 1950's post war revival for colourful fighters! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisrope Posted June 6, 2013 Share Posted June 6, 2013 (edited) Hopefully not too much of a thread drift but heres the F8 from the Matchbox kit too. I used the spare canopy from the Xtrakit F8 I've since changed the nosewheel doors on both these for some correct ones, I originally used the NF part which is wrong. I really like the Matchbox meteor (weirdly ) , got a couple more to do as intended from the box. I've got an Aeroclub F8 topdeck, F8 vac canopies and a vac T7 canopy (i think) going spare. Cheers Chris Edited June 6, 2013 by chrisrope Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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