adlersieg Posted May 6, 2013 Share Posted May 6, 2013 Hi folks.I wanna start my first WIP here on britmodeller with CMR#189 1/72 DH Venom FB.4, WR444. Any help and feedback will be appreciated.Here is a profile of the a/c mentioned in this topic: Pity, but I cant find any photo of this a/c so there is a lot of questions. But let's keep' em for future, now i wanna tell you few words about the work done.I got this kit in built condition, but I wanna rebuilt it because of inaccurate panel recessing. I got started from the filling panel recessing with the putty, for now about a half of the plane has already sanded. Here we are. Meanwhile I'm drawing the patch with the panels and hatches to be etched as I can't rescribe them well. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crobinsonh Posted May 6, 2013 Share Posted May 6, 2013 Like the look of what you are doing. Looking forward to seeing your progress Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adlersieg Posted May 7, 2013 Author Share Posted May 7, 2013 Thanks for feedback crobinsonh. Btw your scimitar squadron is superb! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darren Rhodes Posted May 7, 2013 Share Posted May 7, 2013 Ooh, nice, will watch with interest as I might get this kit to complement my FAA Musketeer models. Interested to see how you us the etch as my scribing ability is woeful! Darren Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adlersieg Posted May 8, 2013 Author Share Posted May 8, 2013 Thanks for feedback Darren. I've been modelling for a long time but I still can't resrribe the hatches on my models well. Last time when I was building the pair of Gladiators I made the ethced hatches and glued them onto the model. In my opinion it looks not bad, anyway it looks better than my rescribed ones. ... I've just found that I have no access on on my photobucket acc at my work office, so I'll show you the pix this evening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adlersieg Posted May 8, 2013 Author Share Posted May 8, 2013 (edited) so, here are a photos of etched panels and hatches from my previous effort. It was a pair of 1/72 gladiator: one by Pavla, the second one by sword. As I said before my rescribed hatches( especially round or oval ones) look messy and much worse than another details of the model. So I decided to draw the etched and made my own PE at home. So this is a pix of PE: On these pix my PE hatches and panels glued wiyh CA glue onto the models And here go the pix of finished models. In this way my hatches and panels look on the painted and laquer coated models: If you want to read more about my Gladiators, here is a link for WIP: http://scalemodels.ru/modules/forum/viewtopic_t_33764_start_0.html (it's in Russian, but if you dont read in Russian you may translate it wia google translator) and here is a photobucet album with the pix of gladiator build http://s122.photobucket.com/user/adlersieg/library/gladiator?sort=3&page=1 and this is a link with finished Mk1 http://www.dishmodels.ru/gshow.htm?p=11380 (it's in Russian too) Edited May 8, 2013 by adlersieg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JOCKNEY Posted May 8, 2013 Share Posted May 8, 2013 Struth old mate you do like a challenge don't you. Obvious question is why go to all the trouble with a previously built kit ? However as an exercise in old kit rescue.........bring it on ! I will enjoy this good luck Cheers Pat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adlersieg Posted May 8, 2013 Author Share Posted May 8, 2013 hi Jockney, It wasn't finished, even decals were not applied so I decided to make few steps back and repeat the filling and panel rescribing. Anyway, I dont want to rubbish this model and start from the begining. There is only one thing I regret about. Why did I not remove the paint from the model with a paint thiner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Navy Bird Posted May 8, 2013 Share Posted May 8, 2013 Wow, all those panel lines and hatches are wrong? That is not at all typical of CMR, especially on a newer release. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thorfinn Posted May 8, 2013 Share Posted May 8, 2013 Those Glads are gorgeous, and I'm sure the Venom will be as well. Following with great interest. Cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colin Posted May 8, 2013 Share Posted May 8, 2013 Well if the Venom comes out as good as the Glad' it will be a stunner. With the PE I suppose it will work for raised hatches but not so well for flush ones Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adlersieg Posted May 8, 2013 Author Share Posted May 8, 2013 (edited) Wow, all those panel lines and hatches are wrong? That is not at all typical of CMR, especially on a newer release. Hi, I did not mention that the panel ines are wrong. Friend of mine who started this kit made the panel rescribing deeper and wider, cause he has sanded some of it during the kit asembling. Somewhere scriber knife go wrong way, so the panel rescribing at this model looked a litle bit messy. That's why I filled all the panels lines and hatches. Well if the Venom comes out as good as the Glad' it will be a stunner. With the PE I suppose it will work for raised hatches but not so well for flush ones Hi Colin. Yes, I know it, and this is a price I should pay. But my rescribed flushed hatches look much worse:( Edited May 8, 2013 by adlersieg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Navy Bird Posted May 9, 2013 Share Posted May 9, 2013 Hi, I did not mention that the panel ines are wrong. Friend of mine who started this kit made the panel rescribing deeper and wider, cause he has sanded some of it during the kit asembling. Somewhere scriber knife go wrong way, so the panel rescribing at this model looked a litle bit messy. That's why I filled all the panels lines and hatches. Ah, OK, that makes sense. I saw the word "inaccurate" and then I looked at the CMR Venom in my stash and I thought about all the work I would have to do! Thank goodness I won't have to now! The Gladiators look fantastic! Which one did you like better, the Pavla or the Sword? It will be interesting to see how the new Airfix kit stacks up when it is released. Cheers, Bill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdrianMF Posted May 9, 2013 Share Posted May 9, 2013 This is one to watch for me! The Gladiators look great. How do you get your mask onto the brass before etching? Regards, Adrian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adlersieg Posted May 9, 2013 Author Share Posted May 9, 2013 This is one to watch for me! The Gladiators look great. How do you get your mask onto the brass before etching? Regards, Adrian I used negative photoresist+photolithography mask+UV lamp. Adrian, I even can tell the comunity how to produce PE at home (this is not a secret technology ), but this is not a short story for this thread. And as you see I dont speak English well so far, so assistent who could edit my article needed 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adlersieg Posted May 10, 2013 Author Share Posted May 10, 2013 A little progress on my project.The hatches and panels for bottom part of fuselage are done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crobinsonh Posted May 10, 2013 Share Posted May 10, 2013 Very nice. Cannot wait to see you apply them. Fantastic work on the Gladiators. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sgt.Squarehead Posted May 10, 2013 Share Posted May 10, 2013 Blimey, those Gladiators are a bit good.....Looking forward to seeing what you can do with this one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ben_m Posted August 31, 2013 Share Posted August 31, 2013 Giving this a bump as I'd love to see any progress that has been made- those gladiators and their PE are awesome! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adlersieg Posted October 11, 2015 Author Share Posted October 11, 2015 Hi folks. I made PE parts for my Venom and even glued them onto the model. Now I am going to paint this, but there are some questions about the colour scheme. The first (and tha main) is... Are there any photo of WR444?! There are so many models of this plane, but I can not find any photo of the real a/c. Photo of another Venoms from 249 sqn are also suitable. I found only photo of Musketeer Venoms from 249(?) sqn(from Warpaint book). As I see, the colour of drop tanks differs from under surfaces PRU Blue. It seems to be lighter than. Should I paint them Medium Sea Grey?The next question about the wing tip tanks. It seems to be they have metallic shine on the photo above... Were they painted Aluminium? Or it's optic effect? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adlersieg Posted October 27, 2015 Author Share Posted October 27, 2015 Hi folks, I started paintjob of my Venom. Firstly I painted in aluminium wing tip tanks, intakes and undercarriage. Jet nozzle I painted in gunmetal. Then to protect from scratches I covered metallic painted areas with gloss finish. This weekend I'm going to paint yellow stripes on the wings and on the beams. To be continued... 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adlersieg Posted November 22, 2015 Author Share Posted November 22, 2015 I did not have so much time to upload the photos of progress, but now I will try to find some minutes to do it. Firstly, I made pre-shading for the yellow 'musketeer' stripes. Next time I will choose another color for yellow pre-shading... Then, I painted in 359 Yellow areas on wings and fuselage beams for 'musketeer' stripes I masked yellow stripes with Tamiya tape, made pre-shading and painted 'musketeer' stripes in 360 Night color Then, I painted some areas in 289 Braun( do not ask me why, I have no reasonable answer) and made pre-shading for under surfaces PRU Blue color ...and 365 PRU Blue color 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adlersieg Posted December 6, 2015 Author Share Posted December 6, 2015 (edited) This weekend I painted my Venom in Arcus 379 Dark Sea Grey. Next week I hope to finish the camouflage with Dark Green color. Edited December 7, 2015 by adlersieg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adlersieg Posted April 30, 2016 Author Share Posted April 30, 2016 Finally, she's done Another photos are here: http://www.britmodeller.com/forums/index.php?/topic/235001755-cmr-172-dh-venom-fb4-wr444-opmusketeer/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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