Bf 110 g2 in non Luftwaffe schemes

[rwoolven76]

Quick question. Does anyone know if there are any non-luftwaffe schemes that I could model a bf110 g2 in? I have the Eduard profipak and would like to do something a little bit different.

Cheers,

Richard

[elger]

Wings Palette has a profile of a G-2 in Croatian markings on their site, but as with a lot of profiles, I have no idea how reliable it is.

[Parabat]

Swiss, Hungarian and Croatian spring to mind, though they mightn't have used G-2's.

[Troy Smith]

Hmm, interesting question, so a few searches later.... now, it's seems the G-2 specific options are a bit limited, but also finding alertnate scheme for Luftwaffe typesd is interesting, other might find the following of interest too.

This page http://forum.12oclockhigh.net/showthread.php?t=9747

says that the Hungarian had the G-4, but it also lists a G-2 .

Hungarian Fighter Codes
V.951 Messerschmitt Bf 110G-2 (3)

Night Fighters
M.102 Messerschmitt Bf 110G-4 (15)

5/1 Night Fighter Squadron equipped with Bf 110G-4

There are decals for a Hungarian G-4's

http://www.had.hu/magyarazorajzok/72094_48094.html

the wiki page here

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Air_Force_of_the_Independent_State_of_Croatia

says Croatia had G-2's.

Thread here, note last post

http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic.php?f=49&t=64968

There is a photo in one of the Croat-published books on the NDH, the one authored also by Tihomir Lisko, which shows the fuselage of a Bf 110, with the late-war Croatian markings on it.

Couldn't find a pic.

The Romanians flew some, wing pallette says it's a C model,

But were their C nightfighters. There are photos w profiles in 'Romanian Fighter Colours' book, but the book is not to hand for e to check details of what model.

Interestingly when having a search for details as book is not to hand, i find this...so apparently an F model

full review here

http://www.hyperscale.com/2013/reviews/kits/eduard84145reviewbf_1.htm

which was news to me!

There is also a table, showing what Eduard Bf 110 kit has what. Looking at it, the only difference between the F and G are the wings.. but offhand I don't know what the difference is...

I looked up some sprue shots but can't see the difference, I think the canopy is different as well.

NOTE - The Eduard kit has many redundant bits, so you might be able to build an 'F' from a G-2 with some work?

I don't know the specifics and a quick search has not turned up an obvious answer. Other's will know more.

Hope of interst

T

[Brad]

You are pretty limited for the G-2, if you were to expand it to a G-4 then you have a couple more options. The captured Russian and Swiss machines are definitely G-4, the Croatian machine, take your best guess. There are pictures around of at least 1 G-2 in British markings and the Hungarian machine is probably a G-4, but there are no clear pictures of the markings, so it could have been used in standard Luftwaffe markings, so the profile and decals should be considered a bit of a guess.

[Bertie McBoatface]

The Swiss one would make an interesting project. What do you think is happening? My guess is some sort of display event.

[elger]

If I recall correctly, that photo of the 110 in Switzerland on the ramp was taken during a test somehow of its radar systems.

[Giorgio N]

2 different Bf.110G-4 landed by mistake (at least so said the crews) in Switzerland (IIRC both at Dubendorf). The radard were indeed tested by the Swiss Air Force using the unusual set-up shown in the picture above.

The aircrafts were then destroyed as part of an agreement with the German government that involved the sale of a number of Bf.109G-6 in return for the Swiss to destroy the 2 110 and not release any information on them to the Allies.

[Brad]

The Swiss one would make an interesting project. What do you think is happening? My guess is some sort of display event.

The put it on the ramp then flew over it to test the radar system.

[dfqweofekwpeweiop4]

Hmm, interesting question, so a few searches later.... now, it's seems the G-2 specific options are a bit limited, but also finding alertnate scheme for Luftwaffe typesd is interesting, other might find the following of interest too.

This page http://forum.12oclockhigh.net/showthread.php?t=9747

says that the Hungarian had the G-4, but it also lists a G-2 .

There are decals for a Hungarian G-4's

http://www.had.hu/magyarazorajzok/72094_48094.html

the wiki page here

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Air_Force_of_the_Independent_State_of_Croatia

says Croatia had G-2's.

Thread here, note last post

http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic.php?f=49&t=64968

Couldn't find a pic.

The Romanians flew some, wing pallette says it's a C model,

But were their C nightfighters. There are photos w profiles in 'Romanian Fighter Colours' book, but the book is not to hand for e to check details of what model.

Interestingly when having a search for details as book is not to hand, i find this...so apparently an F model

full review here

http://www.hyperscale.com/2013/reviews/kits/eduard84145reviewbf_1.htm

which was news to me!

There is also a table, showing what Eduard Bf 110 kit has what. Looking at it, the only difference between the F and G are the wings.. but offhand I don't know what the difference is...

I looked up some sprue shots but can't see the difference, I think the canopy is different as well.

NOTE - The Eduard kit has many redundant bits, so you might be able to build an 'F' from a G-2 with some work?

I don't know the specifics and a quick search has not turned up an obvious answer. Other's will know more.

Hope of interst

T

Just to clarify (as you weren't to know), the topic starter means in 1/72 not 1/48 like the Bf110F kit. Interesting thread though. I'll stick to making my G-2 as a Luftwaffe one with BK 3.7 gun.

thanks

Mike

[rwoolven76]

Wow. I've been unable to check my email for the last 12 or so hours and am overwhelmed somewhat by everyone's responses.

Mike, thanks for clarifying the scale for me. It's quite helpful having my supplier on the forum. ;-)

I'll have a proper read through everything above and see what I come up with and let you know what I find/decided.

Thanks everyone for all your help.

Richard

[Steven Eisenman]

The Royal Hungarian Air Force had a few G-2s, but it seems there are no pictures, and the numbering V.951-956 seems to include some 109s in the Zerstroyer role.

The Rumanians flew the C, D and F-4, but only one was in Rumanian markings, the other retained Luftwaffe markings.

As for the Croatian aircraft, the fuselage fragment says little. One reference indicates it may have been a G-2. It was acquired just before the end of the war and was damaged when Zagreb airport was bombed. Another was said to have flown to Austria to escape capture by the Partisans.