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Dear Wessex Specialists,

My last question was in regards to the yellow rotor blade on the SAR Wessex. In reading the total result of my question (3 pages), I have come to the conclusion that BM is the best site for starting a serious discussion. I was amazed at the knowledge among the members. Thanks for the effort you all put in there. This knowledge I will use, if questioned by modelers who think they know it all!

This time, I continue with the colors of the airframes in general.

In particular the RED on the RN frames and the YELLOW on the RAF frames.

To start with the rescue yellow, does Xtracolor RAF Rescue Yellow represent the right color yellow, or are we differing of opinions on this matter? Or even do we mix to get the right yellow result?

Continuing to the Yellow and Red on the RN Wessex:

The (Golden) Yellow on the HAS 1 and HAS 3 must be a mix of colors. It is a very warm Yellow to look at.

Any suggestions to get the right color on this matter?

The Red on the nose and middle fuselage, would Xtracolor Red Insignia compare, or is there something better on the market?

Highest Regards,

Dirk (Orion)

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Dirk

Re the red, you may find this thread of interest. However, unfortunately it is not terribly conclusive and you are probably better going by a picture of your subject before deciding on day-glo / Signal (Red Arrows) Red/ Roundel (Post Office) Red.

http://www.britmodeller.com/forums/index.php?/topic/234927757-wessex-hu5-771-sqn-rn-what-colour-red/?hl=wessex

Pat

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Dokker Blaze I think Grizzly mentioned previously. Humbrol 209 Gloss Fire Orange over a white base but then some here say pink Then I've just found on Model Decals sheet No,96 a Wessex HU5 from 771 NAS Culdrose where the instructions state red BS538. Where as sheet No.99 states Gloss Day-glo red/orange. My assumption was it was always day-glo.

Colin

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Hello Selwyn,

Thanks for your response.

So for the RAF yellow I use the Xtracolor 'RAF Rescue Yellow."

This implies that Navy yellow and RAF yellow on the airframes are the same color?.

Hello Pat C and Heloman 1,

Thanks for your response.

The red nose and the choices between Postal Red/Signal Red and Day-Glo.

Would you be so kind to explain the tin numbers from Xtra or Humbrol or.....

With regards,

Dirk (Orion)

The netherlands

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Hello Selwyn,

Thanks for your response.

So for the RAF yellow I use the Xtracolor 'RAF Rescue Yellow."

This implies that Navy yellow and RAF yellow on the airframes are the same color?.

Hello Pat C and Heloman 1,

Thanks for your response.

The red nose and the choices between Postal Red/Signal Red and Day-Glo.

Would you be so kind to explain the tin numbers from Xtra or Humbrol or.....

With regards,

Dirk (Orion)

The netherlands

Yes the rescue yellow is the correct colour. hannants incorrectly label it on their website as "BS 256" which is a typo, (numbers beginning with 2 are Greens in BS 381c!)

Selwyn

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Dokker Blaze I think Grizzly mentioned previously. Humbrol 209 Gloss Fire Orange over a white base but then some here say pink Then I've just found on Model Decals sheet No,96 a Wessex HU5 from 771 NAS Culdrose where the instructions state red BS538. Where as sheet No.99 states Gloss Day-glo red/orange. My assumption was it was always day-glo.

Colin

If you read the General Notes in Modeldecal sheet 99 Richard Ward explains that

"Wessex used for SAR duties typically carried large dayglo orange-red areas fore and aft: in their later period of service, gloss signal red (BS 381C: 537) or roundel red (BS 381C:538) was used in some cases in place of the fluorescent dayglo colour."

I photographed XS523/824/CU of 771 NAS at North Weald in 1985 in the later blue-grey and red scheme.

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Xtracolour produce both reds

BS 381C 537 as X014 Red Arrows Red and BS 381C 538 as X031 Post Office Red. I believe the current official names for the 2 colours are Signal red and Cherry red respectively. The latter colour is RAF roundel red.

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Dokker Blaze I think Grizzly mentioned previously. Humbrol 209 Gloss Fire Orange over a white base but then some here say pink Then I've just found on Model Decals sheet No,96 a Wessex HU5 from 771 NAS Culdrose where the instructions state red BS538. Where as sheet No.99 states Gloss Day-glo red/orange. My assumption was it was always day-glo.

Colin

The one on MD 96 was one of the early machines still in Olive RM colour with Red / Blue roundels & Roundel Red for & aft I have found the Flory Red goes on well over a matt yellow base coat.

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Hello All,

I have just ordered:

Postal Red / Signal Red / RAF Recue Yellow from Xtracolor and Humbrol 209 Gloss Fire Orange

(I hope the Humbrol is available) It is easier to get Xtracolor than Humbrol from my supplier in The Netherlands.

If I can help you with anything from The Netherlands, let me know!

Thanks alot.

Dirk

(orion) MPA

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Xtracolour produce both reds

BS 381C 537 as X014 Red Arrows Red and BS 381C 538 as X031 Post Office Red. I believe the current official names for the 2 colours are Signal red and Cherry red respectively. The latter colour is RAF roundel red.

BS 381c 1996 issue, (I have it open in fron of me as I speak) identifies 537 as signal red. 538 as Cherry (not "Cherry red") It looks as Xtracolour have mis labelled 538 as Post Office Red as Post Office vehicles are actually painted in 539 Currant red.

Selwyn

Xtracolour produce both reds

BS 381C 537 as X014 Red Arrows Red and BS 381C 538 as X031 Post Office Red. I believe the current official names for the 2 colours are Signal red and Cherry red respectively. The latter colour is RAF roundel red.

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This place is fabulous for esoteric detail, wonderful stuff guys

Saved that picture in my Wessex SAR file Rod, thanks

not my Wessex non SAR file ;)

Orion please come back when you have done your "mistress of the skies" model

I'm a great fan of yellow Wessexii

and green grey blue white black.....

etcetera ;)

bill

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