CarLos Posted February 28, 2013 Share Posted February 28, 2013 Hi all, I acquired recently the lovely Lifelike decal sheet that will allow me to make G-AMAU in blue and gold dressing, as flown in several races. I will probably use the Heller kit that seems to be a decent basis for a MK.II. However, I can't find any aftermarket six stack exhausts for it - can I use a Spitfire item? Which one, if it is the case? We're talking 1/72, of course... Carlos 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnyboy Posted February 28, 2013 Share Posted February 28, 2013 If you scroll down the page on this link you will find many images of this aircraft showing exhausts from 1953 till now http://forum.keypublishing.com/showthread.php?t=121487&page=14 John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarLos Posted February 28, 2013 Author Share Posted February 28, 2013 Thanks John. In in the photo bellow (see it here in its original size: http://www.flickr.com/photos/dwhitworth/8484218847/sizes/o/in/photostream/ ) the exhausts in the Hurricane and Spitfire seems to be the same. Anyone confirms this? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troy Smith Posted February 28, 2013 Share Posted February 28, 2013 (edited) Hi all, I acquired recently the lovely Lifelike decal sheet that will allow me to make G-AMAU in blue and gold dressing, as flown in several races. I will probably use the Heller kit that seems to be a decent basis for a MK.II. However, I can't find any aftermarket six stack exhausts for it - can I use a Spitfire item? Which one, if it is the case? We're talking 1/72, of course... Carlos Yes, you can, round type Spitfire ones, [as they are both on a merlin engine...] they will be listed for a MkIX or the like eg http://www.hannants.co.uk/product/QB72153 For Italeri, there is also a set for the hasegawa, no idea which will fit better. Heller kit, it's OK, but the wing is too wide in chord. Also has raised panel lines. 1/72 is not my thing, seems all the 1/72 IIC kits have issues. There have been threads here on this... HTH T edited for spelling... Edited February 28, 2013 by Troy Smith 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gingerbob Posted February 28, 2013 Share Posted February 28, 2013 What impeccable timing- I was just firming up my resolve to do the same in 48th (yes, Graham, I'm going to attempt to follow your lead). I wonder if Mustang stacks would also work, but perhaps they are longer and "droop" (curve downward a bit). Spit stacks are probably the way to go, if you can find a kit that's got the appropriate style. Merlin, not Griffon, remember. bob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarLos Posted February 28, 2013 Author Share Posted February 28, 2013 Yes, you can, round type Spitfire ones, [as they are both on a merlin engine...] they will be listed for a MkIX or the like eg http://www.hannants.co.uk/product/QB72153 For Italeri, there is also a set for the hasegawa, no idea which will fit better. Thanks, I'll get one of these. Heller kit, it's OK, but the wing is too wide in chord. Also has raised panel lines. 1/72 is not my thing, seems all the 1/72 IIC kits have issues. There have been threads here on this... I'll use the Heller kit because I have a few, from the Airfix Millenium Collection box. I am aware of the kit problems, but they seem to be easy to correct. The fabric representation is very good, and I prefer to sand raised detail than to fill trenches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troy Smith Posted February 28, 2013 Share Posted February 28, 2013 (edited) What impeccable timing- I was just firming up my resolve to do the same in 48th (yes, Graham, I'm going to attempt to follow your lead). I wonder if Mustang stacks would also work, but perhaps they are longer and "droop" (curve downward a bit). Spit stacks are probably the way to go, if you can find a kit that's got the appropriate style. Merlin, not Griffon, remember. bob Bob Are you aware the current Hasegawa boxing is of this scheme, and comes with some white metal 6 stub exhausts? Now, if you already have the Lifelike sheet may not be of use, but maybe worth considering, it's not that expensive via Luckymodel for example and being in the US you won't be risking customs. [it's 35 quid in the UK......ouch!] My one question is, how good are the Hasegawa decals, or more precisely, compared to the Lifelike ones? i did ask this on Hyperscale, no one AFAIK has compared the two. there is a review of this hase boxing here http://www.aeroscale.co.uk/modules.php?op=modload&name=Reviews&file=index&req=showcontent&id=7356 The deccals look OK, but anyone know? Answers on a postcard to me please... [sorry, having a flashback to 70's British TV, lack of BM for 2 days i think] cheers T Edited February 28, 2013 by Troy Smith Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Test Graham Posted February 28, 2013 Share Posted February 28, 2013 The key problem with the Heller kit, like all early Hurricane kits, is that the nose tapers too sharply, especially at the top. You need to add some broader shoulders to the top to cover the cylinder heads at the front. This is fairly easily done. Look at the vertical panel line in front of the exhausts, and cut down it from the top to halfway. Then insert some plastic card to wedge open the top above the engine at the front. Add a bit of putty (one at each corner) to round out the shape from the spinner to this panel line. Smooth to taste. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gingerbob Posted March 1, 2013 Share Posted March 1, 2013 I do have the Lifelike sheet, and a ready supply of Hase Hurris. I'm quite sure I have a suitable set of exhausts around here somewhere, too, but I'll have to have a look. Tomorrow (today, by the time you read this?) is March 1, the start of "Hurricane season"! bob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Work In Progress Posted March 4, 2013 Share Posted March 4, 2013 You don't actually need to change the exhausts if you don't want to. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarLos Posted March 4, 2013 Author Share Posted March 4, 2013 You don't actually need to change the exhausts if you don't want to. I know that, but I want to model it as number 41 - see the lifelike decal schemes bellow: Thanks anyway! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Work In Progress Posted March 4, 2013 Share Posted March 4, 2013 This, then. Quickboost Spitfire IX tubular exhaust. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarLos Posted March 4, 2013 Author Share Posted March 4, 2013 Thanks again. It's already in my Hannants' whish list (that is getting too big...) Carlos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gingerbob Posted March 5, 2013 Share Posted March 5, 2013 I found another great FlyPast thread, including a color match (I'm using the term loosely, Nick). bob 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C460 Posted March 13, 2013 Share Posted March 13, 2013 Hi all, I'm just in the process of finishing my own G-AMAU in 1/48. I'll post pictures very soon. I used the Hasegawa boxing but was a bit disappointed with the exhausts, and replaced them with http://www.ultracast.ca/products/48/084/default.htm'>Ultracast 48084. There are several mistakes in the instructions of the Hasegawa kit and of the Lifelike decal sheet. First thing that was overlooked is that the oil tank at the root of the left-hand wing was left natural metal for better cooling during the races. This is particularly visible in this picture. Another caveat is that numbers "41" under the wing are shown in the reverse direction, as they should be read from the inside ; please have a careful look at pictures before placing them. Another error is that there was only one headlamp, in the leading edge of the left wing, that on the right being removed. Greetings, Adrien Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troy Smith Posted April 18, 2013 Share Posted April 18, 2013 (edited) This has turned up on Etienne's flicr, not seen it before, very neat! Hurricane IIc PZ865 in civillian markings seen at the Royal Aeronautical society at White Waltham, Berkshire on May 14, 1950. This was her first appearance in the blue-and-gold livery while being operated by Hawker Aircraft. On June 17 that year Gp Capt Peter Townsend flew it to second place in the King's Cup Race. Edited April 18, 2013 by Troy Smith 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3DStewart Posted April 19, 2013 Share Posted April 19, 2013 (edited) Yes, you can, round type Spitfire ones, [as they are both on a merlin engine...] they will be listed for a MkIX or the like eg http://www.hannants.co.uk/product/QB72153 For Italeri, there is also a set for the hasegawa, no idea which will fit better. You might also like to consider the plastic Spitfire Mk IX round exhausts I provide as part of this set, also available from Hannants. Stewart Edited April 19, 2013 by 3DStewart Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troy Smith Posted April 26, 2013 Share Posted April 26, 2013 A quick head up, Hannants have got some of the 'limited edition' bloody expensive at 35 quid Kings Air race boxing of the IIC at half price, http://www.hannants.co.uk/product/HA09967 They had 22 last night, and showing 6 now at £17.49...... HTH T Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarLos Posted December 23, 2020 Author Share Posted December 23, 2020 More than seven years later I started the model! Not the Heller kit as I planned but the beautiful Arma Hobby one. One more question for the experts out there: what to do with the cannon ejection holes? Fill them or not? Have a good Christmas and stay safe... Carlos 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Work In Progress Posted December 23, 2020 Share Posted December 23, 2020 I have a pic of PZ865 G-AMAU slightly later in its life and back in camo and still with the completely flush leading edges and no ejection ports visible. So it's a safe bet it raced with no visible ports. Probably not sheet metal changes, and they reappeared later once the cannon barrels were back in evidence, but were quite likely just speed-taped over and painted. In 1/72 I'd say fill them. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Knight Posted December 23, 2020 Share Posted December 23, 2020 11 hours ago, CarLos said: One more question for the experts out there: what to do with the cannon ejection holes? Fill them or not? 1 hour ago, Work In Progress said: I have a pic of PZ865 G-AMAU slightly later in its life and back in camo and still with the completely flush leading edges and no ejection ports visible. So it's a safe bet it raced with no visible ports. Probably not sheet metal changes, and they reappeared later once the cannon barrels were back in evidence, but were quite likely just speed-taped over and painted. In 1/72 I'd say fill them. I believe Carlos was asking about the shell ejection ports under the wing 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troy Smith Posted December 23, 2020 Share Posted December 23, 2020 12 hours ago, CarLos said: what to do with the cannon ejection holes? Fill them or not? I'd guess they just had patches doped or taped over, and painted to match. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Work In Progress Posted December 23, 2020 Share Posted December 23, 2020 (edited) 3 hours ago, Black Knight said: I believe Carlos was asking about the shell ejection ports under the wing And that's what I was answering about. Those are, after all, the only ejection ports it has. Edited December 23, 2020 by Work In Progress 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gingerbob Posted December 23, 2020 Share Posted December 23, 2020 Ah, I think we saw "flush leading edges" and stopped listening! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarLos Posted December 23, 2020 Author Share Posted December 23, 2020 Thank you guys. I'll start a topic on the build soon. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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