Aeronut Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 The transport joint looks to be in the correct place, so why the main spar and all the gubbins behind it? Hopefully someone will come up with some resin pieces to represent the leading edge nose rib with all the hydraulic, pneumatic and control cable bulkhead connectors that were a feature of the outside of the Lancaster nose section. Thank you HK models for the assembly stand but I do wish someone will provide us with a Queen Mary trailer and tractor unit. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Headroom Posted July 14, 2020 Share Posted July 14, 2020 20 hours ago, WV908 said: It couldn't have been that difficult to add something like 'Old Fred' - which is an actual surviving nose section Trevor 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avro683 Posted July 14, 2020 Share Posted July 14, 2020 (edited) Not really, Mick. Both kits were unveiled at Telford a couple of years ago; the HK kit was further on and released early last year. It’s not as accurate but at least it’s here. Both companies designed the fuselage in a similar way (ie two parts per half split at the forward wing spar joint). Edited July 14, 2020 by avro683 Typo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mancunian airman Posted July 14, 2020 Share Posted July 14, 2020 I can see this becoming a centre piece tribute to a fallen relative. Generally, Joe public people will not be aware of the short falls in the cockpit area . . . The cost being mentioned is $75 . . . . 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
593jones Posted July 14, 2020 Share Posted July 14, 2020 It's worth consideration. From the renders which were shown I would have preferred a WNW nose section which looked amazing, but if that's not going to be produced, this one would be acceptable. The price doesn't look too bad, either. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tony.t Posted July 14, 2020 Share Posted July 14, 2020 18 hours ago, caughtinthemiddle said: ...And this isn't the last Nose Art Kit from HK. Just sayin' So, more Lancaster noses, and then we can get the kit in instalments when Lanc Wings-in-a-Queen Mary-trailer comes out, followed by more bits of Lanc on jigs and in lorries. I wouldn't mind a B-29 nose; or just the aft end of the FG.1/FGR.2, so we can at least have a bit of Spey Toom to decorate. Tony Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SAT69 Posted July 14, 2020 Share Posted July 14, 2020 17 minutes ago, tony.t said: I wouldn't mind a B-29 nose; I like that idea too. A B-36 nose would be nice too. And a B-58 nose with all three cockpits and the encapsulated ejection seats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don149 Posted July 14, 2020 Share Posted July 14, 2020 This is fine for modellers with limited space , I was panting for the Ju 52 , already have two HK Lancs built . Ah well ! , keep hoping . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VMA131Marine Posted July 14, 2020 Share Posted July 14, 2020 10 hours ago, avro683 said: Not really, Mick. Both kits were unveiled at Telford a couple of years ago; the HK kit was further on and released early last year. It’s not as accurate but at least it’s here. Both companies designed the fuselage in a similar way (ie two parts per half split at the forward wing spar joint). Somebody has the WnW Lanc molds. It’s inconceivable that the kit doesn’t get released at some point just because it’s probably the better part of $1 million of development effort. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Work In Progress Posted July 14, 2020 Share Posted July 14, 2020 (edited) Not every capital investment is capable of producing an economic return. If it were a product with a reasonably high volume market available, such as a 1/48 fighter, it would be highly unlikely that someone would not seek to buy or licence the use of of the tooling. But for something so expensive to produce, and so remarkably niche in market positioning, it is extremely conceivable that potential investors will look at the competition from the HK kit, already out to market, and mopping up the limited number of customers for a 1/32 Lancaster, with a fundamentally lower cost design in terms of parts count and complexity, and decide to pursue a safer project instead. Edited July 14, 2020 by Work In Progress 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spruecutter96 Posted July 15, 2020 Share Posted July 15, 2020 (edited) 5 hours ago, VMA131Marine said: Somebody has the WnW Lanc molds. It’s inconceivable that the kit doesn’t get released at some point just because it’s probably the better part of $1 million of development effort. You're a much more optimistic man than I am, my friend. Hopefully, we will see the WNW-moulding Lanc under another maker's name, but I wouldn't want to put any money on the table for that outcome... I'm still pretty surprised that Peter Jackson let his company go out in such a poor fashion. I would have thought they were making some money, even if it wasn't spectacularly profitable. Did they have a history of poor management decisions, I'm wondering? Chris. Edited July 15, 2020 by spruecutter96 Amending information. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
One 48 Posted July 15, 2020 Share Posted July 15, 2020 This is a great idea by HK Models, even if they pinched the idea from WnW ... fair play IMHO, nobody can trademark nose only section ideology and I really do think this is a great concept for large scale model planes going fwd for those that do not have the space for the full size 1/32 model aircraft ... or indeed be able to "afford" the full sized beasts. Someone here said price is not bad either? what is it, missed that? Had both of the WnW Lancs on pr-eorder ages ago at Hannants, but cancelled before the news of WnW demise ... not because of price concerns, but because of size concerns and length of build commitment concerns, just a non starter here really for me Some points though and not nit picking and really am easy going as far as detail is concerned ... The HK Models Lanc has perhaps some errors in pilot seat dimensions or placement? and the WnW CAD model looked more accurate? I just skim read the news back then as I had no real intention of buying one though. Maybe it was the other way around? Either way ... and even for a just a nose section, see nothing wrong with the inevitable AM parts to make it look better, already seen one really good AM IP for the original HK Lanc. Brass gun barrels for front turret, quality seat belt AM ... this is one mini (Large Scale) kit we really can go to town on with AM detail that is available and will be for nose specific versions ... oh and other Nose marking decals too. What a great idea, relatively quick builds too that we might not get bogged down with ... as I often have when bitten off more than I can chew Hope to see more Nose kits in 1/32 for big Aircraft from HK and other model manufacturers in the near future. Superb idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VMA131Marine Posted July 15, 2020 Share Posted July 15, 2020 Somebody needs to do a Manchester conversion for this nose-only release. 2 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
593jones Posted July 15, 2020 Share Posted July 15, 2020 (edited) 23 hours ago, SAT69 said: I like that idea too. A B-36 nose would be nice too. And a B-58 nose with all three cockpits and the encapsulated ejection seats. I think you're getting into the realms of fantasy here Pike. Edited July 15, 2020 by 593jones 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
593jones Posted July 15, 2020 Share Posted July 15, 2020 10 hours ago, One 48 said: Someone here said price is not bad either? what is it, missed that? Mancunian Airman in post #204 said the price of $75 had been mentioned. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SAT69 Posted July 15, 2020 Share Posted July 15, 2020 14 minutes ago, 593jones said: I think you're getting into the realms of fantasy here You're probably right, but then the models we dream of usually are fantasy 'cause deep inside we know they're very unlikely to be produced ... and yet we dream. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jinxman Posted July 15, 2020 Share Posted July 15, 2020 2 hours ago, SAT69 said: You're probably right, but then the models we dream of usually are fantasy 'cause deep inside we know they're very unlikely to be produced ... and yet we dream. ...and who would have thought 40 years ago we would see the massive amount of choice in kits, aftermarket etch & resin, books, decals we now have on offer. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Headroom Posted July 15, 2020 Share Posted July 15, 2020 2 hours ago, Jinxman said: ...and who would have thought 40 years ago we would see the massive amount of choice in kits, aftermarket etch & resin, books, decals we now have on offer. I remember an issue of Air International many years ago when they had a regular modelling column, bemoaning that one month they had no new kits to review! Trevor 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
593jones Posted July 16, 2020 Share Posted July 16, 2020 17 hours ago, Max Headroom said: I remember an issue of Air International many years ago when they had a regular modelling column, bemoaning that one month they had no new kits to review! Trevor Yes, those were the days, so few kits, so much money, nowadays, so many kits, so little money! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mancunian airman Posted July 16, 2020 Share Posted July 16, 2020 Spoilt for choice today its has to be said . . . . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cees Broere Posted July 17, 2020 Share Posted July 17, 2020 A 1/32 Manchester, now that's an idea 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tony.t Posted July 18, 2020 Share Posted July 18, 2020 I'm just hoping HKM come out with the F-4K/M tail kit soon so we can at least have something to decorate in Phantom markings. In fact, a 1/16th scale or bigger generic F-4 vertical stabiliser (fin) could be fun. Could do a bunch of flamboyant Naval markings as wall decoration. Tony 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Julien Posted July 18, 2020 Share Posted July 18, 2020 Review on your number 1 forum 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mancunian airman Posted September 17, 2020 Share Posted September 17, 2020 I spotted this on the net and it may be of interest for some. It seems you get quite a few more sprues if you going to make ONE of the kits but surprisingly the price is NOT that much greater . . . https://store.spruebrothers.com/product_p/hkm01e12-os.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlCZ Posted September 19, 2020 Share Posted September 19, 2020 Sniff, i can WnW super tool Lanc I hope in quarter scale Lanc from HK, but still nothing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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