moosequito Posted January 20, 2013 Share Posted January 20, 2013 Hi I am new to airbrushing and have finaly finished building an Airfix Lynx to try my airbrush on. I have never used Mr surfacer before but have read many build articles where it has been used so thought I would give it a try. On testing it through my airbrush it came out like candy floss and covered everything in a spider web type material. Any ideas why this happened? Cheers, Matt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noeyedears Posted January 20, 2013 Share Posted January 20, 2013 (edited) hope you thinned it well down with lacquer thinner. preferably mr color levelling thinner. as it comes out of the jar it is ok for applying with a toothpick type thing or one of those hairy brush thingumys to local areas only. it is FAR to thick to airbrush. it also comes ready to spray (or decant off for use in an airbrush) in a rattle can Edited January 20, 2013 by noeyedears Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gcn Posted January 21, 2013 Share Posted January 21, 2013 You need their levelling thinner apparently to stop this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintsPhil Posted January 21, 2013 Share Posted January 21, 2013 I had the same issue, it was cured by thinning it some more! Start with 1:1 and see how you get on, you may need more thinners. Always best to apply several thin coats, rather than one thick one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moosequito Posted January 21, 2013 Author Share Posted January 21, 2013 Thanks for your replys I didnt thin it at all so that is where I was going wrong. Does Mr surfacer have to be thined with mr color levelling thinner or can I use other thinners? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintsPhil Posted January 21, 2013 Share Posted January 21, 2013 I only ever use Mr Color Levelling, but Celulose should work. Incidently it is the 1200 you're trying to spray not the 500. You won't get too far with the 500, even thinned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gcn Posted January 21, 2013 Share Posted January 21, 2013 I too wouldn't recommend spraying the 500 even if it has been thinned, stick to 1000 or 1200 or an out of the bottle solution would be Alclads grey primer. I've sprayed with both their levelling thinner, normal thinner and Tamiyas yellow cap thinner with no problems at all, but I have read the spiders web effect can happen with their normal thinner. I'm guessing Phil has it in that its a case of under thinning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spitfire Posted January 21, 2013 Share Posted January 21, 2013 I used Mr Surfacer 1200 on a resin kit that millions of tiny pin holes in a it's wings, I thinned it with Mr Color thinner roughly a 50:50 mix, this airbrushed well at about 15 psi, but I have also applied it with a brush (straight no thinning) and a cocktail stick, it works just as well that way. Cheers Dennis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sid de Koning Posted January 21, 2013 Share Posted January 21, 2013 If you can find it use drops of Mr. Retarder. This will get rid off the spiderwebs. I use 1 drop for 1ml and works every time. Also on well thinned 500.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moosequito Posted January 22, 2013 Author Share Posted January 22, 2013 Some great advise. Thankyou. I don't have a local model shop so will have to look on line for some thinners. In the mean time I have used a can of Halfords plastic primer. Easy and seems very effective. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gcn Posted January 23, 2013 Share Posted January 23, 2013 models r go have the levelling thinner, you get good service from them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintsPhil Posted January 23, 2013 Share Posted January 23, 2013 Thumbs up for Models R Go! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colin Posted January 23, 2013 Share Posted January 23, 2013 I have used cellulose thinner from the local car parts shop, just make sure you vent the overspray outside and wear a mask. Applies if you use the Mr levelling thinner as well Colin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duncan B Posted March 19, 2013 Share Posted March 19, 2013 hope you thinned it well down with lacquer thinner. preferably mr color levelling thinner. as it comes out of the jar it is ok for applying with a toothpick type thing or one of those hairy brush thingumys to local areas only. it is FAR to thick to airbrush. it also comes ready to spray (or decant off for use in an airbrush) in a rattle can I tried decanting from an aerosol and got spiders webs so I think it still needs some thinning even if decanted, don't ask me why as it does spray perfectly from the rattle can! Duncan B Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mfezi Posted March 19, 2013 Share Posted March 19, 2013 Apparently, not all hardware store lacquer or cellulose thinners are the same. I had exactly the same problem when thinning Mr Surfacer with my local hardware store lacquer thinner. When I got it thin enough to stop the candy floss, it would dry partially in mid-air resulting in a powdery finish on the surface. All my problems went away when I started using Mr Leveling thinners. However, I believe Tamiya lacquer thinner also work well with Mr Surfacer. Just be careful: Tamiya makes three types of thinner - Lacquer, Enamel and Acrylic. You want the lacquer thinner. My first choice will still be the Mr Levelling Thinner though. It results in a beautiful, smooth painted surface, yet it dries more than fast enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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