noeyedears Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 (edited) photos of black/ gray PF cockpit and drawings explaining differences between types All are copyrighted and are for the OP's information only and not for reproduction. They will be deleted as soon as OP has seen them. Also notice the pitot tube on the pf has no vanes. Untitled by omgpainful, on Flickr Untitled by omgpainful, on Flickr Untitled by omgpainful, on Flickr Untitled by omgpainful, on Flickr Screenshot_2013-01-18-00-37-06 by omgpainful, on Flickr Screenshot_2013-01-18-00-27-53 by omgpainful, on Flickr Untitled by omgpainful, on Flickr Edited January 18, 2013 by noeyedears Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noeyedears Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 another http://www.flickr.com/photos/77084890@N04/8392258088/'> http://www.flickr.com/photos/77084890@N04/8392258088/'>21s by http://www.flickr.com/people/77084890@N04/'>omgpainful, on Flickr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeOmega Posted January 19, 2013 Share Posted January 19, 2013 I have the pavla set too, bought it before I got the FM set. It's ok but the detail on the seat was very soft, belts were hardly visible. I thought about getting a Neomega seat to replace it but their website didnt list one. They've just released a pit for the F-13 so maybe the seat will come out on its own too... Oh, that's a bugger! We do have one, but I forgot to put it on the new site - what a cretin!! Gordon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nirvanagr Posted January 19, 2013 Author Share Posted January 19, 2013 Oh, that's a bugger! We do have one, but I forgot to put it on the new site - what a cretin!! Gordon Do you have a 1/48 Mig-21 PF cockpit set released and you've forgotten to list it in your site??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nirvanagr Posted January 19, 2013 Author Share Posted January 19, 2013 (edited) This is an extract from Mirage III vs MiG-21: Six Day War 1967 from Osprey Publishing p. 28 : And there : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mikoyan-Gurevich_MiG-21_variants And a real one : Nicolas photos of black/ gray PF cockpit and drawings explaining differences between types All are copyrighted and are for the OP's information only and not for reproduction. They will be deleted as soon as OP has seen them. Also notice the pitot tube on the pf has no vanes. Untitled by omgpainful, on Flickr Untitled by omgpainful, on Flickr Untitled by omgpainful, on Flickr Untitled by omgpainful, on Flickr Screenshot_2013-01-18-00-37-06 by omgpainful, on Flickr Screenshot_2013-01-18-00-27-53 by omgpainful, on Flickr Untitled by omgpainful, on Flickr According to this: Egypt received the first of its 45 to 50 MIG-21FL in 1965 [...]. The designation FL was used both by an export version of the MIG-21PFM and a variant manufactured in India. What i understand is that the PF is the same designation as the FL and PFM, for the Egyptian Air Force. So, should i buy a PF kit, build it as it is and at the end i'll call it MIG-21FL (EAF). The problem here is the parachute fairing at the tail fin. I need to build an EAF plane with no parachute housing because it is not included in the Academy kit. Also, the canopy on the PFM was hinged to open in the right, instead of the PF version that it's canopy is a main part. Is that true or do i have messed it up once again in my mind? I've noticed that the PFM has wider tail fin than the PF. Thank you very much for your precious help, guys! Edited January 19, 2013 by nirvanagr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noeyedears Posted January 19, 2013 Share Posted January 19, 2013 (edited) I dont know what boxing of the kit you have but i have the academy mig 21 pf fishbed D kit open in front of me as i type, the one with the wrongly comouflaged plane with rocketpods and centreline tank flying past the Kremlin on the front box code FA148 2166 . it HAS two fins; one pf early type fin and one pfm /fl fin with the chute fairing........it even has the paint/decal scheme for an Egyptian air force plane (it says its a PF but as stated before the codes used on foreign built / export versions varied as did the level of equipment included)..........just buy a decent bang seat, SK type neomega do a good one, (and any other resin / etch you fancy that is appropriate) and you are golden :-) Or wait for Eduard to release a pf version. Edited January 19, 2013 by noeyedears Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nirvanagr Posted January 19, 2013 Author Share Posted January 19, 2013 I don't have any yet but i'm planning to purchase this: http://pla.gr/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=593 The same kit with yours. If this kit has the tail fin with the parachute housing, then it's ok. What about the seat's quality? Do i need to buy an aftermarket product? Thank you for your help! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noeyedears Posted January 19, 2013 Share Posted January 19, 2013 like i said.............. .......just buy a decent bang seat, SK type neomega do a good one, pavla do a not so nice one but its ok, (and any other resin / etch you fancy that is appropriate) and you are golden :-) Or wait for Eduard to release a pf version. i am lucky enough to have an old photoetch set especially for a mig pf. it is eduard 48237 and consists of 2 frets covering the cockpit and lots of externals. it is out of production i think. it is still on the eduard web site but shows out of stock..... i cant find one anywhere but if you can its worth it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nirvanagr Posted January 19, 2013 Author Share Posted January 19, 2013 Thanks again, mate! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SimonR Posted January 20, 2013 Share Posted January 20, 2013 Hi all, great thread - don't wish to hijack it but I picked up a 1/48 Italeri MIG-21MF in the MZ sale, I know nothing about MIGS but it looks a decent enough kit to me. My query is on colour schemes, the kit instructions say all-over lt grey for the Soviet version (circa 1971), I always assumed they were nat metal, can I do this in nat metal scheme or is that just not correct? cheers Simon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noeyedears Posted January 20, 2013 Share Posted January 20, 2013 Hmmm, i have never seen an all gray russian 21, that doesnt mean there werent any though. russisns seemed to like the nmf aluminium planes (withh titanium around the exhaust.) being so late the cockpit would "probably"have been the green one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SimonR Posted January 20, 2013 Share Posted January 20, 2013 Hmmm, i have never seen an all gray russian 21, that doesnt mean there werent any though. russisns seemed to like the nmf aluminium planes (withh titanium around the exhaust.) being so late the cockpit would "probably"have been the green one. Great NMF it is then! Thanks for that, my initial guess was Italeri have messed up on the kits colour plans but not knowing too much about Soviet aircraft I want sure, i'll have another look at the kit later, it was quite late last night when I was looking at it an may have been distracted by MOTD! cheers Simon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nirvanagr Posted October 15, 2017 Author Share Posted October 15, 2017 Hello again mates. I have the 1/48 pavla cockpit but it lacks the instructions. Does anyone have them? Thank you in advance. Yannis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hook Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 On 15-10-2017 at 6:22 PM, nirvanagr said: I have the 1/48 pavla cockpit but it lacks the instructions. Does anyone have them? Always glad to help out a fellow Fishbed lover. Here you go: https://www.super-hobby.com/products/MiG-21PF-ACA-1735069.html (For reference only - I don't have good experiences actually ordering from that outfit...). Cheers, Andre 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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