perdu Posted December 30, 2012 Share Posted December 30, 2012 (edited) I'm making ratherslow progress with this scratch build but I'm having trouble getting a filler to harden off to ensure a smooth closure over the fuel tanks upper fuselage section I tried white Milliput soggy after a week although properly mixed, I ended up digging it all out with a craft knife Squadron White filler stayed rubbery for ever (Over a week before I dug it all out again) And just recently tried Revell Plasto, all day and it has hardly begun hardening Anyone know a reasonably quick modelling filler I might try? Please? I bought a green/grey Milliput on Friday but have been too disheartened to try it yet Here's where I am tonight Some white MIlliput has hardened here at the rear but the rest was awful I remade rear deck sections to give a higher level for filling Tailplane dry fitted to test fit, looks reasonable to me Edited December 30, 2012 by perdu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radleigh Posted December 30, 2012 Share Posted December 30, 2012 P38 car filler, or what I've been using 'Bonds - FEW' which is the same. My thread here has photos on page 3. http://www.britmodeller.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=234931424&hl= Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kev67 Posted December 30, 2012 Share Posted December 30, 2012 As Radleigh says, car body filler you can buy fine car body filler, I have never had problem with milliput, but if its not hardening may be you may need to mix it more togethor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy K Posted December 30, 2012 Share Posted December 30, 2012 Are you mixing the Milliput properly? I can't say I've ever had a problem with it setting. I will agree about the Revell stuff though, I'm having my doubts about it since an area did'nt set properly on a Stuka I was building, plus there seemed to be an awful lot of clear fluid coming out the tube before the actual filler. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c.smith10 Posted December 30, 2012 Share Posted December 30, 2012 I have always found this to work well http://www.humbrol.com/accessories/miscellaneous/ae3016-humbrol-model-filler-31ml-ae3016/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perdu Posted December 30, 2012 Author Share Posted December 30, 2012 Cheers for these words Milliput mixing mixed well for about ten minutes each time I've been using the stuff since the eighties, never had this kind of trouble with it before. I wonder if it's something about the white version though My wife gets asthma attacks so I can't really go for the car filler style stuff very often It gets into her breathing works summat orrid I went into Modelzone looking for the Humbrol filler but they hadn't any just this crappy Re*ell stuff I expect Humbrol will be my next port of call, I used to use it a lot in my earlier modelling days Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chadders Posted December 30, 2012 Share Posted December 30, 2012 Don't go for the Humbrol stuff. It's an ok filler for small areas, but is really meant for large areas. Now I can't comment on White Milliput because I've never used it, but I've used the grey stuff for 20 odd years with no problems and its really smooth. The pack I'm using now is 3 years old, and it still mixes and sets fine. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perdu Posted December 30, 2012 Author Share Posted December 30, 2012 Thanks Chadders. If you mean green/grey Milliput it's what I'm used to too and as Im busy digging the Re*ell junk out now I think its what will be going in next Theres no doubt my biggest problem is trying to do too much with normal filler, some of the gaps are pretty wide but as its scratch built bespoke bits and bobs there is a lot of vagueness around some of the cut-filling areas to cover I know, I should be more accurate like most of you guys, but I am getting too old to learn many more tricks Green/grey tomorrow sanding next year maybe Thanks again for the help Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iain Ogilvie Posted December 30, 2012 Share Posted December 30, 2012 (edited) Never had a problem with Milliput either - of any type - and I use it a lot!? Bad batch? Not mixed enough? P-38 can work well as others have said - plus for small fill jobs I rather like Revell Plasto - others' mileage will vary! Iain Edited December 30, 2012 by Iain (32SIG) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted December 30, 2012 Share Posted December 30, 2012 White Milliput is an excellent product, so I'm guessing you have a bad batch. If mixed properly and not dodgy, it should set in around 8 hours in a reasonably warm room. It'll stay rubbery in cold damp conditions though, although not forever. Maybe a new pack in warm conditions might work better? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lawnguylander Posted December 31, 2012 Share Posted December 31, 2012 Cheers for these words Milliput mixing mixed well for about ten minutes each time I've been using the stuff since the eighties, never had this kind of trouble with it before. I wonder if it's something about the white version though My wife gets asthma attacks so I can't really go for the car filler style stuff very often It gets into her breathing works summat orrid I went into Modelzone looking for the Humbrol filler but they hadn't any just this crappy Re*ell stuff I expect Humbrol will be my next port of call, I used to use it a lot in my earlier modelling days Hi Perdu, I use a 2-part filler called Apoxie sculpt. It's non-toxic, although I haven't tried to test that claim. No odor, just mix 50-50, smooth with a wet finger, and it will set in 12-24 hours. It comes in a variety of colors, and doesn't "skin" like Milliput. HTH! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Julien Posted December 31, 2012 Share Posted December 31, 2012 Strange with the milliput. I have never used the white stuff, but never had any problems with the grey/green one. Even when its years old. For smaller gaps I swear by tamyia normal putty, love the stuff. Have you tried mixing some old sprue or even plasticard off cuts with some glue? make this into a paste and it can make a good filler, not for too large gaps though. Julien Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jennings Heilig Posted December 31, 2012 Share Posted December 31, 2012 Milliput soggy after a week although properly mixed Not properly mixed, or really old and out of date. If fresh and properly mixed, it will be hard enough to machine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albeback52 Posted December 31, 2012 Share Posted December 31, 2012 I like REvell Plasto - used it only yesterday on my latest build. Set fine. I' know what you mean about the clear fluid . I can only surmise that maybe it "separates" if left standing for a while?. I've got round that by gently squeezing the the tube several times ( with cap on!!) until mixture restored. Seems to work. I've experienced long setting times with grey milliput ( in the order of 2 - 3 days. An alternative I use is Plumbers 2 part epoxy putty. I think Jennings may be right. I know I've got the mix slightly wrong before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heloman1 Posted December 31, 2012 Share Posted December 31, 2012 To add to Radleighs suggestion of car body filler, if you stretch a piece of plast sheet over the are you have filled until most of the filler has sweezed out and you will have less filing to do. Have you tryed Tamiya filler, excellent stuff. As Mark says you may have a duff pack of Milliput. Colin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perdu Posted December 31, 2012 Author Share Posted December 31, 2012 (edited) I wouldnt think the Milliput is too old, bought it this year at Mr Models and as for mixing, well I have been using the stuff since Pontius was a pilot. Never known it be this bad ever. Anyway guys thanks for your input, I'll be trying the new grey/green Milliput pack I bought on Friday Fingers crossed Just got to see how hard the Plasto has become since yesterday morning, maybe it will be workable soon. Or it will have to be scooped out like all the others Edited December 31, 2012 by perdu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bentwaters81tfw Posted December 31, 2012 Share Posted December 31, 2012 I have some grey Milliput which must be 20 years old. Still works fine. Recently been using P 38 for large jobs and Squadron White or Green. No problems there either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robvulcan Posted December 31, 2012 Share Posted December 31, 2012 I had same trouble with white milliput it still after a month has not gone off. Never had a problem with the standard stuff swear by it bloody tough stuff to Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kev67 Posted December 31, 2012 Share Posted December 31, 2012 By the way, what is it you are scratch building, looks interesting, Shorts Aircraft of some type? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radleigh Posted December 31, 2012 Share Posted December 31, 2012 By the way, what is it you are scratch building, looks interesting, Shorts Aircraft of some type? Shorts 330 Sherpa, Would love to see a WIP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perdu Posted December 31, 2012 Author Share Posted December 31, 2012 By the way, what is it you are scratch building, looks interesting, Shorts Aircraft of some type? Yes Kev, Shorts C-23A Sherpa, developed from the Shorts 330 for the USAF European Distribution network in the eighties One design requirement aspect was that it could carry the Pratt & Witney F100 engine anywhere replacements were required As I'm considering a diorama I've built the engine, plastic wrapped and cargo handling framework to ride the cargo roller floor As usual I cant get the image size reduced "nicely" in PB oh well here's the one I did earlier Thinking of a WIP if anyone's interested b Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iain Ogilvie Posted December 31, 2012 Share Posted December 31, 2012 Thinking of a WIP if anyone's interested Suspect there would be lots of interest in seeing a WIP on this - me included! Iain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perdu Posted December 31, 2012 Author Share Posted December 31, 2012 OK a WIP will be along in a while if you'd like one I havent posted one for this before 'cos I am taking a long time over it, with Mrs P's breathing being a major consideration (not that she thinks consideration comes into it with modelling - she doesnt "get it" ) Been on it since spring on and off but now most of the major subassemblies are coming up to scratch I have made the main wheels, moulded the PT6A-45-R nacelles ready for fettling (Plastic Padding used for them as it was for the sponson buck moulds) Fins and rudders made and ribbing added from 0.010 Slaters rod and wings are almost finished so a WIP is about right if wanted I tend not to expect anyone to be much interested when it's a little known 'plane like this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The wooksta V2.0 Posted December 31, 2012 Share Posted December 31, 2012 Britmodellers may have little interest in what you're modelling, but more how you're doing it. All sorts of little tips that can feed across. We all find them useful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perdu Posted December 31, 2012 Author Share Posted December 31, 2012 Cheers Wooksta, I will look into a WIP next year just as long as its fun b Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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