Homebee Posted December 29, 2012 Share Posted December 29, 2012 (edited) This Mike (from Two Mikes Resin - http://www.twomikesresin.com/ & http://www.facebook....es/292079953801 ) talk too much... But doesn't say enough. Sources: http://www.britmodel...38 http://s362974870.on...96&qpid=2114224 On 20/12/2010 at 15:12, Mike Reeves said: A 1/32 injection moulded kit is in the works now. No idea as the wen it will be released though. On 20/12/2010 at 18:43, Mike Reeves said: I am helping do some of the research and development of the kit(s) and once done in 1/32 I have been told that they will 99% likely be scaled down to 1/48. Why else do you think I am discontinuing the Viggen bits from the Two Mikes line? On 20/12/2010 at 20:03, Two Mikes said: Oh it is indeed true but I don't hold the cash so when it is released is not up to me. I am just helping the kit get off the ground. I will keep everyone posted as I am able to do so. Wait and see. V.P. Edited April 13, 2022 by Homebee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PHREAK Posted December 29, 2012 Share Posted December 29, 2012 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Col. Posted December 29, 2012 Share Posted December 29, 2012 The scaling down from 32nd to 48th sounds like typical Trumpeter to me but that's only idle speculation. Good news in the long term for Viggen fans hopefully. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vlamgat9 Posted December 29, 2012 Share Posted December 29, 2012 Sounds years off. Tarangus Viggen will be out in 2013. i am amazed hasegawa didnt follow up on the draken, which appears to have been very succesful for them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenDragon Posted December 30, 2012 Share Posted December 30, 2012 Reminds me of Zoukei Mura who are about to do 1/48th versions of their 1/32nd J7-W1 Shinden & Ta 152. Paul Harrison Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albeback52 Posted December 30, 2012 Share Posted December 30, 2012 Sounds years off. Tarangus Viggen will be out in 2013. i am amazed hasegawa didnt follow up on the draken, which appears to have been very succesful for them. I'm hoping Hasegawa DON'T attempt this!! I want to be able to afford the kit! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeaVenom Posted December 31, 2012 Share Posted December 31, 2012 I'm hoping Hasegawa DON'T attempt this!! I want to be able to afford the kit! I wish Hasegawa would attempt it as they did a nice job with the Draken. They're not the cheapest kits but they're not that expensive surely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albeback52 Posted December 31, 2012 Share Posted December 31, 2012 (edited) I wish Hasegawa would attempt it as they did a nice job with the Draken. They're not the cheapest kits but they're not that expensive surely. Price is of course a contentious/subjective issue. For me personally, I haven't bought a Hasegawa kit for several years. Mainly because the prices are way beyond what I am prepared to pay. That's my choice of course.Others will take a different view. As always, it's down to the individual. Yes, their Draken is lovely but, not at £35 + for the 1/72 kit & £45+ for the 1/48. I'd LOVE a 1/32 Viggen but, there is a very severe limit on what I can afford. Come on Revell!! Edited December 31, 2012 by Albeback52 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeaVenom Posted December 31, 2012 Share Posted December 31, 2012 Price is of course a contentious/subjective issue. For me personally, I haven't bought a Hasegawa kit for several years. Mainly because the prices are way beyond what I am prepared to pay. That's my choice of course.Others will take a different view. As always, it's down to the individual. Yes, their Draken is lovely but, not at £35 + for the 1/72 kit & £45+ for the 1/48. I'd LOVE a 1/32 Viggen but, there is a very severe limit on what I can afford. Come on Revell!! Whilst I'd love everything to be really cheap (and no doubt other modellers would too) I think £35 is a reasonable price these days for a 1/48th Draken. Don't forget it costs a shed load to tool up plastic kits and also the more money these companies make on their kits the more kits we'll have. I've seen resin manufacturers charge much more than that and it costs much much less to tool up a resin kit. How some of them justify such high prices for resin kits I don't know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenDragon Posted January 1, 2013 Share Posted January 1, 2013 £38.99 is the current UK price for the 1/72nd kit. I got the same plastic in a Revell box for £8.99 last year! Current UK price for the new Danish Special Draken is £51.99. Only Hasegawa's I've been buying are off ebay, mostly for less than their old 1990's retail price. Paul Harrison Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin @ Freightdog Models Posted January 1, 2013 Share Posted January 1, 2013 I've seen resin manufacturers charge much more than that and it costs much much less to tool up a resin kit. How some of them justify such high prices for resin kits I don't know. Because an injection moulded kit tool will generate between 1500 (short run) and 10,000+ (long run) sales, whereas as a resin kit sells 250 to 500 (if your very lucky) over a couple of years, and the mould wares out after 30 pops! Not really a fair comparison... Colin (producer of moderately expensive resin kits ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeaVenom Posted January 2, 2013 Share Posted January 2, 2013 Because an injection moulded kit tool will generate between 1500 (short run) and 10,000+ (long run) sales, whereas as a resin kit sells 250 to 500 (if your very lucky) over a couple of years, and the mould wares out after 30 pops! Not really a fair comparison... Colin (producer of moderately expensive resin kits ) I know resin manufacturers will do all they can to justify their prices but that argument doesn't stack up. It costs peanuts to tool up a resin kit compared to an injection kit. Therefore they should sell for a hell of a lot less. If the mould wears out then all you do is get some rubber and make a new one from the pattern. I did it myself a few years back and there's no comparison to the £60,000 plus it can take to make a metal mould for an injection plastic kit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
general melchett Posted January 5, 2013 Share Posted January 5, 2013 I'm hoping Hasegawa DON'T attempt this!! I sincerely hope Trumpeter don't attempt this !!, far rather pay Hase to get it right in the first place than Trumpy to botch it and require as much fettling as the old ESCI / Airfix jobbie. Sods Law will intervene here as I'm quite a way into tackling the Airfix version with a fair bit of scratch building and lots of resin !! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radleigh Posted January 5, 2013 Share Posted January 5, 2013 I know resin manufacturers will do all they can to justify their prices but that argument doesn't stack up. It costs peanuts to tool up a resin kit compared to an injection kit. Therefore they should sell for a hell of a lot less. If the mould wears out then all you do is get some rubber and make a new one from the pattern. I did it myself a few years back and there's no comparison to the £60,000 plus it can take to make a metal mould for an injection plastic kit. I've never produced 1500 resin kits before but I can imagine it's quite time consuming and also very hands on! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Julien Posted January 6, 2013 Share Posted January 6, 2013 I sincerely hope Trumpeter don't attempt this !!, far rather pay Hase to get it right in the first place than Trumpy to botch it and require as much fettling as the old ESCI / Airfix jobbie. Sods Law will intervene here as I'm quite a way into tackling the Airfix version with a fair bit of scratch building and lots of resin !! I could not agree more! If Hasegawa could do a Viggen with the same quaility as the Draken it would be good. Julien Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vlamgat9 Posted January 6, 2013 Share Posted January 6, 2013 I know resin manufacturers will do all they can to justify their prices but that argument doesn't stack up. It costs peanuts to tool up a resin kit compared to an injection kit. Therefore they should sell for a hell of a lot less. If the mould wears out then all you do is get some rubber and make a new one from the pattern. I did it myself a few years back and there's no comparison to the £60,000 plus it can take to make a metal mould for an injection plastic kit. You are ignoring the economics of scalability and econmies of scale itself Specialist resin kits cost more for the same reason that a specialist artisanal loaf of bread costs more than a loaf of Warburtons Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NicPl Posted January 10, 2013 Share Posted January 10, 2013 Price is of course a contentious/subjective issue. For me personally, I haven't bought a Hasegawa kit for several years. Mainly because the prices are way beyond what I am prepared to pay. That's my choice of course.Others will take a different view. As always, it's down to the individual. Yes, their Draken is lovely but, not at £35 + for the 1/72 kit & £45+ for the 1/48. I'd LOVE a 1/32 Viggen but, there is a very severe limit on what I can afford. Come on Revell!! Try this: http://www.hannants.co.uk/product/HA09888 in 1/48 for £25 and this: http://www.hannants.co.uk/product/HA01929 two kits in 1/72 for £28 Nicolai Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Kunac-Tabinor Posted January 10, 2013 Share Posted January 10, 2013 I would imagine that a Hasegawa 1/48th Viggen would not be much more if anymore than the Tarangus one will be. Jonners Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homebee Posted May 10, 2013 Author Share Posted May 10, 2013 (edited) MPM has just announced 1/48th (and later 1/32nd?) Saab AJ37 & Sk37 Viggen kits - while Tarangus is to release/edit the JA37 version (http://www.britmodeller.com/forums/index.php?/topic/234925290-new-viggen-in-148th-has-this-been-mentioned-before/). Source: MPM newsletter of May 2013 http://modelweb.modelforum.cz/index.php/2013/05/10/novinky-od-mpm-production-na-kveten-2013/?lang=CS V.P. Edited January 22, 2015 by Homebee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Kunac-Tabinor Posted May 11, 2013 Share Posted May 11, 2013 Makes sense- in the blurb they say its a joint venture with Tarangus. Roll on those Viggen. Good news all round I'd say. Now- which decal maker's gonna be brave enough to do a splinter scheme decal sheet and save us all the masking?? Jonners, blodiga glad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vingtor Posted May 11, 2013 Share Posted May 11, 2013 Now- which decal maker's gonna be brave enough to do a splinter scheme decal sheet and save us all the masking?? Pre-cut masks would help a lot ... Nils 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homebee Posted May 11, 2013 Author Share Posted May 11, 2013 (edited) Pre-cut masks would help a lot ... Nils Let's have a look, at the Gator's J-37 Viggen paint mask in 1/72nd and 1/48th: http://www.ipmsusa3.org/reviews/Details/Aircraft/Gator_Mask_72_Viggen/Gator_Mask_72_Viggen.htm Available here: http://www.gatorsmask.com/aircraftmask.html V.P. Edited May 11, 2013 by Homebee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homebee Posted January 29, 2014 Author Share Posted January 29, 2014 (edited) Test build on display at the Spielwarenmesse Nürnberg 2014. Source Primeportal: http://www.primeportal.net/models/thomas_voigt8/special_hobby/index.php?Page=1 V.P. Edited February 5, 2014 by Homebee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coneheadff Posted January 29, 2014 Share Posted January 29, 2014 Aaaaalmost :-) But it looks as they still have some work to do Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaun Posted April 24, 2014 Share Posted April 24, 2014 Any news on this kit yet? Shaun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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